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Slavvy posted:Maybe I'm out of touch because I don't live in Auckland for the adorable harbour lifestyle, I dunno. It seems like Auckland has lots of shoreline real estate that could be turned into something pretty and grand but everyone fixates on the harbour. I don't see a good outcome here because it's the only port for container ships in Auckland, and Auckland is a relatively big city which is growing rapidly and will presumably need more cargo capacity eventually. The fact Auckland is a rapidly growing city is probably a good reason as to whether we should complete a review of the future of the Port and if it should even be in the CBD. We were meant to get that review before anything happened with the Port but Len Brown went back on his word and now we're just getting a huge extension to the wharfs that will jutt out even further into the harbour. The Council also got some pretty suss advice about whether it even had a say. Basically the whole thing has been a fait accompli from day one despite Aucklanders constantly getting told otherwise and we are understandably pissed.
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I couldn't give a flying poo poo about the port tbh, and it looks like I'll never be able to buy a house at all, let alone one near the cbd. lol
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Slavvy posted:Maybe I'm out of touch because I don't live in Auckland for the adorable harbour lifestyle, I dunno. It seems like Auckland has lots of shoreline real estate that could be turned into something pretty and grand but everyone fixates on the harbour. I don't see a good outcome here because it's the only port for container ships in Auckland, and Auckland is a relatively big city which is growing rapidly and will presumably need more cargo capacity eventually. As I understand it from the debate some time ago the argument was that either POAL needs to expand to accomodate growth or all the container shipping business has to start moving to Tauranga. Given that POAL is owned by the ARC it makes economic sense for the region to expand / upgrade the port however people feel that an expansion of the port would be bad because of the environmental and aesthetic impact. Personally I think they should go for it but I'm not sure that's a popular opinion. [e] Stuff article from last month about it: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/66025016/the-auckland-port-how-big-is-too-big bobbilljim posted:I couldn't give a flying poo poo about the port tbh, and it looks like I'll never be able to buy a house at all, let alone one near the cbd. lol I don't think people realise how hosed the housing situation is at the moment in the big cities. Or how much of our future productivity is being locked away in servitude to the banks. Ivor Biggun fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Mar 20, 2015 |
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Mar 20, 2015 04:05
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BABY BOOMSERS FUCKE D IT UO FOR THEIR GRANDKIDS LOL
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bobbilljim posted:I couldn't give a flying poo poo about the port tbh, and it looks like I'll never be able to buy a house at all, let alone one near the cbd. lol This. Ivor Biggun posted:As I understand it from the debate some time ago the argument was that either POAL needs to expand to accomodate growth or all the container shipping business has to start moving to Tauranga. Given that POAL is owned by the ARC it makes economic sense for the region to expand / upgrade the port however people feel that an expansion of the port would be bad because of the environmental and aesthetic impact. Personally I think they should go for it but I'm not sure that's a popular opinion. Why can't they expand the Mangere wharf area into a proper decent port? Instant motorway access, not anywhere near the CBD, Mangere residents don't give a poo poo about their beautiful view of the south western being sullied.
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Slavvy posted:Why can't they expand the Mangere wharf area into a proper decent port? Instant motorway access, not anywhere near the CBD, Mangere residents don't give a poo poo about their beautiful view of the south western being sullied. Primarily because the Manukau harbour can't support larger ships - it's shallow with a large tidal variation, not enough deep water mooring space and of course, the horribly treacherous sand bar at the harbour entrance, site of NZ's deadliest maritime disaster. Edit: Largest ship the Manukau can support is around 1000 tonne. Queen mary 2, the biggest ship to dock at POAL, is over 148,000 tonne. BuckyDoneGun fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Mar 20, 2015 |
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:BABY BOOMSERS FUCKE D IT UO FOR THEIR GRANDKIDS LOL Yes?
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:BABY BOOMSERS FUCKE D IT UO FOR THEIR GRANDKIDS LOL
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Slavvy posted:Why can't they expand the Mangere wharf area into a proper decent port? Instant motorway access, not anywhere near the CBD, Mangere residents don't give a poo poo about their beautiful view of the south western being sullied. The motorway runs directly over it and the Council has spent a bunch of money putting back in some of the shoreline that industrialization hosed up. The other issue in the Ports debate is that sealife in the Gulf is basically hosed to the point where no one knows how long it will take to replenish itself or if that will even happen.
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Mar 20, 2015 04:29
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I'm also annoyed lately that it took me 25 mins to drive to work on the shore, yet it takes an hour to go half that distance on the bus into the cbd.
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I catch the bus from Howick to the CBD every morning, and it takes at least an hour. If I try and do it between the hours of 4 and 6 pm, it frequently takes double that. Edit: Displeased Moo Cow posted:BABY BOOMSERS FUCKE D IT UO FOR THEIR GRANDKIDS LOL
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Mike Sabin was a v. proactive MP, and even though he's resigned for family reasons his bills are still going strong.quote:Mr Sabin's bills have been approved by the National Party caucus for support at first reading should any be drawn from the ballot. e: lol, uhhh we need three things  
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Mar 20, 2015 05:39
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:BABY BOOMSERS FUCKE D IT UO FOR THEIR GRANDKIDS LOL Since I'm a millenial and our generation is absolutely massive, I very much look forward to making GBS threads all over my grandkids and their hopes and dreams. Boomers thought too small. We need to cut out the middlemen: just hold up our grandkids at gunpoint and say it's for their own good, and make factories that gently caress the environment directly without any of that production bullshit to slow down the glorious poison. Start wearing capes around the place and laughing wildly for no reason.
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Mar 20, 2015 06:16
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I'd be happy with rounding up the worst offenders of our captains of industry and perforating them. Y'know, as a warning to the rest. If it could be publicly televised, that'd be even better.
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it's pretty great how an entire generation, born into one of the greatest periods of prosperity in human history, have poured all their ingenuity and hard-work over the last three decades into collectively becoming Lex Luthor and striding around the landscape kicking people in the teeth
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:it's pretty great how an entire generation, born into one of the greatest periods of prosperity in human history, have poured all their ingenuity and hard-work over the last three decades into collectively becoming Lex Luthor and striding around the landscape kicking people in the teeth Gene Hackman, or the animated one in the green and purple robosuit?
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mirthdefect posted:Gene Hackman, or the animated one in the green and purple robosuit? The one from Smallville.
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Wandle Cax posted:The one from Smallville. All better choices than Kevin Spacey.
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Mar 20, 2015 08:36
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No. None of those have the requisite total, devastating lack of self-awareness. It's this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiRWwxFjqNM
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Slavvy posted:No. None of those have the requisite total, devastating lack of self-awareness. It's this one: The best Lex Luthor
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So there was a white pride march in Wellington today of about 6 to 10 people lol 
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swampland posted:So there was a white pride march in Wellington today of about 6 to 10 people lol I saw a bunch of dudes in tui shirts and blackface heading to the cricket just around the corner from there.
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swampland posted:So there was a white pride march in Wellington today of about 6 to 10 people lol Is that a girl guides stall on the left there lmao
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[Tony Ryall skitters out of Parliament like a paisley daddy longlegs] http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/67470191/Health-system-in-critical-condition-but-trapped-on-the-waiting-list
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Mar 21, 2015 23:51
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Has there been any word about what's going on with FYI? Its been down now for like a week.
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Click here to watch Winston Peters destroy Mark Osborne in a televised debate. Part 1 Part 2 loving hell.
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Vagabundo posted:Click here to watch Winston Peters destroy Mark Osborne in a televised debate. Winston is a belligerent old shithead who I can't recall every giving a specific answer about anything other than holding up a sign. The fact he out-waffled a relative newcomer is entirely unsurprising. I'd rather the guy who actually lives in Northland wins rather than the cynical vile racist who doesn't live in the district, let alone the electorate, and whose party hasn't stood anyone in the seat for two electoral cycles and that we're meant to believe suddenly cares deeply about its future. Regardless of how much of a shambles Osborne's campaign is, at some stage someone has to draw a line under Winston's bullshit and posturing.
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Winston hasn't even started speaking but I'm keenly aware of how "out there" Mark Osbourne is speaking to the issues Northlanders care about.
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Butt Wizard posted:Winston is a belligerent old shithead who I can't recall every giving a specific answer about anything other than holding up a sign. The fact he out-waffled a relative newcomer is entirely unsurprising.
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:If Winston wins, it flips the balance of power in parliament so that the Nats can no longer rely on their pocket ACT MP for support. That means they'll either have to go running to Winston or Dunne, both of whom aren't likely to agree with some of National's shittier plans for the coming years. Whether or not you like the guy, understand the implications that his win will have for parliament. I do understand it. I also understand that the exact same poo poo that everyone got so wound up about in Epsom is going on here. I also know it's to the benefit of one of the most outspoken racists in New Zealand society. I also remember Winston insisting that human rights should be dished out via referendum during the gay marriage debate. And I also understand that Labour would crawl over broken glass to work with him ahead of the Greens. I'm just not so blinded by a hatred of National that I'm prepared to overlook some stuff, I guess. Exclamation Marx posted:I'd prefer the leathery racist with sliver of economic decency over the racist who knew about a child-toucher and said nothing It's almost like there's an opportunity for a credible third-party candidate. If only the leader of said party could bring himself to actually endorse his candidate. See above.
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To be frank I think local MPs are completely useless. Apart from attending public events I can't think of anything they actually do. I presume they do a lot... I just don't see or hear about it.
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truther posted:To be frank I think local MPs are completely useless. Apart from attending public events I can't think of anything they actually do. This is how governments are supposed to work.
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Butt Wizard posted:
Yeah, almost, but not really.
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Mar 22, 2015 07:59
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Slavvy posted:This is how governments are supposed to work. Supposed to, but don't.
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Simon Power got my grandfather a new hip after the Ministry of Defence decided that the shrapnel fragment he caught in WWII was his responsibility to deal with. I think he was a bit of a dick other than that though.
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Mar 22, 2015 08:02
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Slavvy posted:This is how governments are supposed to work. That and the whole 'organize the country to better support the governed' thing.
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Mar 22, 2015 08:07
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Depends on the MP but often they're really responsive to lobbying. The electorate system makes them accessible at least. E.g. NZEI were able to successfully lobby various local MPs to help people get claims resolved with that novopay shitstorm a few years ago
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Mar 22, 2015 08:20
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Craig Foss told me that I had to pay for my children to use a bus It's a long story, very interesting though.
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Morgan Godfrey seems upset about dolls
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