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I'll go for superhuman charisma so I can get some other poor bastards to do the soldiering for me.
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So I was reading through the WWI day by day updates leading up to Gallipoli, and I have a question. Gallipoli looms large in the English-speaking world as almost a founding myth for ANZAC forces, but what place does Gallipoli hold in Turkish culture? How is it generally viewed in Turkey today?
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Tomn posted:So I was reading through the WWI day by day updates leading up to Gallipoli, and I have a question. Gallipoli looms large in the English-speaking world as almost a founding myth for ANZAC forces, but what place does Gallipoli hold in Turkish culture? How is it generally viewed in Turkey today? My local cinema has a new blockbuster movie of Turkey bravely fighting back the invaders every few months it seems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q3VZgYkIkQ (note the dastardly British pilot shooting a nurse in the back from his plane) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM5JeloVjEM
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Mar 20, 2015 09:51
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Eej posted:What about super regeneration so you can do all of the above and also never die on the field of battle. I, too, dream of becoming a Highlander someday.
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Mar 20, 2015 10:05
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CeeJee posted:My local cinema has a new blockbuster movie of Turkey bravely fighting back the invaders every few months it seems. OMG. This will never show on Australian TV. Enemy at the Gates, only the Digger is the bad guy. Tony Abbott would be hilerious to listen to, and John Howard would probably drop dead in shock. Comstar fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Mar 22, 2015 |
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Mar 20, 2015 11:09
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I posted a good one a while back full of suspiciously turkish looking British officers with weird accents and turks with m1 rifles. Good poo poo.
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Mar 20, 2015 12:18
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Frostwerks posted:Blood Meridian was a good book, agreed. Make gunpowder from your own piss, say poo poo like "anything that exists without my knowledge exists without my consent," etc.
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Mar 20, 2015 12:59
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Jobbo_Fett posted:I, too, dream of becoming a Highlander someday. What sword would you use? Don't tease us with this now.
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Mar 20, 2015 15:57
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Trin Tragula posted:100 Years Ago These Dardanelles posts have been really good.
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Mar 20, 2015 16:03
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100 Years Ago The official and long-overdue end of the First Battle of Champagne, something we can safely write off as a complete failure. GQG's enthusiasm for the offensive continues unabated, however. The Entente and Italy are haggling over the exact territorial promises to be made, and one of the Friendly Feldwebel's superiors takes a dim view of some REMFs attempting to feather their already-comfortable nests. Rincewind posted:These Dardanelles posts have been really good. Well, stick around! It's going to get, um, more. I don't think that either "better" or "worse" are appropriate words to use.
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Mar 20, 2015 19:25
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CeeJee posted:My local cinema has a new blockbuster movie of Turkey bravely fighting back the invaders every few months it seems. This is actually really interesting - I don't remember any major Western WW1 media portrayal that played up the heroism of WW1 much. It's usually more to do with the utter futility of it all, senseless waste of human life, etc. etc. So how is WWI as a whole viewed in Turkey, then? Gallipoli could be seen as a shining moment of heroism, but given that the actual war ended in the defeat and partitioning of the Ottoman Empire, what's the overall view on it?
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Mar 20, 2015 19:28
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Tomn posted:This is actually really interesting - I don't remember any major Western WW1 media portrayal that played up the heroism of WW1 much. It's usually more to do with the utter futility of it all, senseless waste of human life, etc. etc. Gallipoli is important because Mustafa Kemal Bey "Father of the Turks" led the defenses there. They may have lost all the Arab dominions of the old Ottoman Empire but because the defenses held in Gallipoli, no civilians inside contemporary Turkey had to suffer of the war. except for Armenians There's also the chance that had Turkey completely fallen, eastern Anatolia would have gone to Russia and Greece would have grabbed the Greek parts of Asia Minor. Which they tried anyway.
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Mar 20, 2015 19:45
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my dad posted:A longbow. This. There's a reason why the words "Troll Adept with a longbow" tend to cause Shadowrun players to freak out.
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Mar 20, 2015 19:53
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Trin Tragula posted:Well, stick around! It's going to get, um, more. I don't think that either "better" or "worse" are appropriate words to use. So in other words, the situation will continue to deteriorate. 
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Mar 20, 2015 19:55
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Trin Tragula posted:Well, stick around! It's going to get, um, more. I don't think that either "better" or "worse" are appropriate words to use. "It will significantly advance laterally."
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Mar 20, 2015 20:48
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Rincewind posted:So in other words, the situation will continue to deteriorate. It will maintain a similar level of suck but with a greatly increased number of people, I'm predicting.
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Mar 20, 2015 21:13
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Thus far, the only blokes to have been unduly inconvenienced by the clowncar goings-on at the top have been the civvies on the trawlers and some of the more unfortunate matelots. That will soon change.
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Speaking of obscure war dramatizations: When I was a kid I spent a decent chunk of my childhood living in early 90's Macedonia. I distinctly remember a docudrama kind of program, possibly made by the state, which played on TV. I have the feeling it was about one of the yugoslav predecessor-states' losing struggles against germany during ww2 and something tells me it was serbian-made? Maybe? All I remember is a bunch of potbellied dudes in extremely traditional garb setting up in a field and talking about the germans coming, then at the end a bunch of guys in field gray and a couple of tenuously nazi-looking tanks roll up and kill everyone in a heroic defeat. Every single episode ended this way and had roughly the same structure; the entire intro to the show was a montage of heroic patriots getting shot. Anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?
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Mar 20, 2015 21:52
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JcDent posted:Of course, getting wounded is still in. Super strength, carry a small brick shed around for protection.
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Mar 20, 2015 22:00
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Smart. Worked for the 3 little pigs.
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Slavvy posted:Speaking of obscure war dramatizations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FpsN_V8ixM  edit: This intro is from the "classic" series, while what you're talking about is one of the 90s era series I'm guessing edit2: Found the episode you were describing!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQug1tOQD8s (Bridge action is at the 40 minute mark or so) Looks like the "German tanks" are M36s? (47 minute mark)AceRimmer fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Mar 20, 2015 |
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Mar 20, 2015 22:49
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You should prolly the second video, since Yugoslav cinema wasn't exactly shy about nudity.
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Mar 20, 2015 23:06
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Ask us about military history: Yugoslav cinema wasn't exactly shy about nudity.
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Mar 20, 2015 23:20
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SeanBeansShako posted:What sword would you use? Don't tease us with this now. Scottish Broadsword, like Mad Jack Churchill. Also, TIL Japan had 5 different types of chemical bombs they could deploy during WW2. The projectiles used had a coloured band near the middle of the shell for identification and were as follows: Yellow - Blister Blue - Choke Brown - Blood and Nerve Red - Vomit Green - Tear
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Mar 21, 2015 05:22
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Did the allies use battlefield chemical weapons in WWII?
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The Russians did
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Comstar posted:OMG. This will never show on Australian TV. Enemy at the Gates, only the Digger [b]is the bad guy[/i]. Tony Abbott would be hilerious to listen to, and John Howard would probably drop dead in shock. Did you have a Abbot moment with your bbcode? I want to watch it with english subtitles, love the mo.
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Mar 21, 2015 12:57
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Fangz posted:Did the allies use battlefield chemical weapons in WWII? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare#World_War_II According to wikipedia, no. They did plan to use them in retaliatory strikes if Germany decided to deploy its own chemical weapons. The Japanese used them pretty frequently it seems, especially against the Chinese. Unless you count "the ship carrying mustard gas got bombed and released its contents" as explained by: quote:Accidental release
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Jobbo_Fett posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare#World_War_II I know it's a complicated situation, but keeping your retaliatory strike a secret kinda ruins the point of having it as a deterrent.
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the JJ posted:I know it's a complicated situation, but keeping your retaliatory strike a secret kinda ruins the point of having it as a deterrent. It worked for Goering. Then again, it was Goering
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Mar 21, 2015 13:48
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the JJ posted:I know it's a complicated situation, but keeping your retaliatory strike a secret kinda ruins the point of having it as a deterrent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfXgu37iyI&t=251s
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Mar 21, 2015 13:58
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the JJ posted:I know it's a complicated situation, but keeping your retaliatory strike a secret kinda ruins the point of having it as a deterrent. Both sides knew that there would be retaliation if they used poison gas, but it's the actual location of that gas that was kept secret.
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Mar 21, 2015 14:01
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Foot wraps own, hth. They are actually much easier to wash than socks. The Soviets did develop poison gas filled 14.5 mm bullets to make up for their miserly beyond armour effect, but I don't think they even passed trials and definitely didn't see combat.
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Mar 21, 2015 14:05
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Germans also tried putting tear gas in their 7.92mm Panzerbüchse rounds, which reportedly worked even worse than you would think. As the rifle did not have any fantastic penetration capabilities, the tear gas could form up outside the target to the detriment of friendly infantry trying to assault the AFV.
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I can't imagine that a rifle caliber bullet could hold enough gas to do much in the open air.
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Had to use these in a Czech uranium mine, and they work pretty well.
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Ensign Expendable posted:I can't imagine that a rifle caliber bullet could hold enough gas to do much in the open air. I don't know, it kind of makes sense to me. The lead spatter from shooting steel plate can end up pretty far away, and those little rifle-caliber explosive bullets can hold enough of a charge to create a pretty decent little smoke cloud. If you assume that half of the internal volume of the bullet is available for filling you could probably get a couple ml of liquid in there. God only knows how it would gently caress up the ballistics, but I doubt this is the sort of thing you're going to be issuing to your snipers anyways. Is it going to be a great way of delivering a nerve agent to wipe out large formations and start a breakthrough? No. But as a nice little gently caress you to throw into a LMG belt every 5th or so round as an irritant and force the enemy to contend with either a minor tear gas haze or wearing a gas mask? I could see the use.
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100 Years Ago A (very) brief introduction to General Birdwood, the ANZAC commander, who is mildly less boring than most generals. The Michelin Man and his huge...cigar are back to hawk more tyres, the Siege of Przemysl draws to an end before I can find a chance to talk about it properly, General Joffre has been invited by the Council of Ministers to an interview without coffee, and a British gunner does his bit to combat the dastardly threat posed by the villainous Hun. In this case, it's by dropping some shells on his head as he tries to enjoy his morning cup of coffee. (It's also some interesting insight into how exactly an artillery piece gets fired.)
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