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32MB OF ESRAM posted:I was kind of disappointed the pit was just... like a hot tub. I always thought it would be some bubbling green glowing poo poo at the bottom of an ancient well you had to scale down or something. Clearly Ra's needs to subcontract Thea and have her people install some cool party lights in the pit. Revitalize in style baby, oh yeah!!!  
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enraged_camel posted:Clearly Ra's needs to subcontract Thea and have her people install some cool party lights in the pit. Revitalize in style baby, oh yeah!!! He had a killer DJ but he is now dead.
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Mar 20, 2015 02:13
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enraged_camel posted:Clearly Ra's needs to subcontract Thea and have her people install some cool party lights in the pit. Revitalize in style baby, oh yeah!!! Too bad DJ Backstab got offed, he had a position in Ollie's jammin' new regime. e: beaten like Malcolm
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Mar 20, 2015 02:13
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You suck Camel. Please take that as constructive criticism .
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Mar 20, 2015 02:14
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Arrow owns. Flash also owns. Can't wait for more Laurel + Nyssa. Still on the fence about Ray.
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Mar 20, 2015 02:23
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Rocksicles posted:Camel, you have failed this city.
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Mar 20, 2015 02:26
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Aphrodite posted:I meant his grammar. That's probably a part of his disguise as well. If you make a concerted effort to talk like no one talks in real life, then it would be easier to avoid the Arrow accidentally talking like Oliver Queen.
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Mar 20, 2015 03:02
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How many weapons did Roy use this episode? Arrows, guns, batons, and then pencils?
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Mar 20, 2015 03:09
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He also used the weapon of axe body spray to make Thea hot for him.
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Mar 20, 2015 03:34
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Ras in the Green Arrow outfit looks a little silly but it's the last part of the set-up to the big season ending archery duel between Arrow and Ras so I'm cool with it.
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Mar 20, 2015 04:18
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It'll probably lead to that new Arrow outfit they've mentioned as well, right? Or did we already get that?
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Mar 20, 2015 07:10
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Man, I am struggling to care about any of this any more. Thea is having boring identity issues because she isn't really a character anymore, Felicity has also lost her character and is now just a shipper tease. Even Lance who I still kinda like feels like he's going in circles. Definitely not helped by 30% of the last Flash episode being super loving amazing. Also not helped by the fact Flash has a decent budget where Arrow's has dwindled and you can SEE it. (Was the mountain the only location shoot that wasn't a set and oh my god that was a set too, wasn't it?) And it's really loving stupid that Ollie's impossible survival happened INSTEAD of Lazarus pits in a universe where Lazarus pits exist. Shado did get a reaction out of me though. I have no idea what to make of that. On the one hand, she seemed pretty definitely dead and what is even going on is it a clone or a twin or something dumb? On the other hand, Shado was a pretty cool character and as shocking as it was to kill her off so bluntly, there was definitely potential for more there. I can at least agree with this: Bad Moon posted:Diggle's role as Oliver's confidant and conscience is underrated and underappreciated.
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Mar 20, 2015 11:38
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VagueRant posted:Man, I am struggling to care about any of this any more. Thea is having boring identity issues because she isn't really a character anymore, Felicity has also lost her character and is now just a shipper tease. I was annoyed with Felicity this last episode. She just got finished telling Oliver that she wasn't in love with him anymore, finally made the relationship official with Palmer, and then, this episode, she starts up with Oliver again, as if to keep him interested. Not just saying "I'm happy when you're in my life", it was her body language and speech patterns too - she seemed like she was consciously acting more flirty in the last few scenes with Oliver, after he caught her and Palmer together, like she didn't want him to stop being into her even though she was unavailable. I mean, I know people aren't robots, and she probably still has some feelings for Oliver, but it just felt childish, like "even though I don't want to be with you, I still want you to have a crush on me."
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Mar 20, 2015 11:59
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boom boom boom posted:Ras in the Green Arrow outfit looks a little silly but it's the last part of the set-up to the big season ending archery duel between Arrow and Ras so I'm cool with it. The last thing I want to see on the show is Ra's shooting arrows like 95% of the other Arrow antagonists instead of stabbing more people with swords.
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Mar 20, 2015 16:49
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VagueRant posted:Man, I am struggling to care about any of this any more. Be careful, I said the same thing a few weeks ago and some people here got really mad. 
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Mar 20, 2015 17:05
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What if he shoots sword arrows?
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Mar 20, 2015 17:06
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greatn posted:What if he shoots sword arrows? Or if he just walks around stabbing people using the arrows without a bow...which we have seen already I think but still
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Mar 20, 2015 17:07
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Valeyard posted:Or if he just walks around stabbing people using the arrows without a bow...which we have seen already I think but still How Roy killed that cop.
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Mar 20, 2015 17:25
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greatn posted:What if he shoots sword arrows? I'd be okay with this. Other villains could do the same; Deadshot could use bullet arrows, for example.
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Mar 20, 2015 18:57
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greatn posted:What if he shoots sword arrows? Ishida rules
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Mar 20, 2015 19:10
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Yeah, this season... has been on the way down since Ollie got stabbed. Flash is picking up with CRAZY rear end TIME TRAVEL and Arrow is actively going backwards through its history. I don't want Ersatz Batman. I want Ollie. I want the guy with the dumb van dyke and green hat making pithy commentary with his superheroine girlfriend and then calling Batman an rear end in a top hat. If he doesn't start buckling some swashes soon, I may have to move on 
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Mar 21, 2015 02:09
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I was really hoping Ollie was going to have a big realization of some sort this episode when he was thinking about "why do I do this, why isn't it working, why aren't I getting what I want". I thought maybe it was going in the direction of him deciding to become more of a public figure, go more from just being covertly heroic to becoming a real "superhero". Or, since he was talking about how he hasn't really improved the city and crime rates haven't actually fallen or anything, maybe do something more than just random acts of beating up criminals and other reactive stuff and maybe move the series towards some of the social justice stuff. But, no. Nothing's actually gonna change at all. He brings up a bunch of totally valid problems, and instead of thinking about any possible ways to address any of them, just comes up with a really obvious excuse for why he's perfectly happy with letting things stay as they are. As if it's supposed to be some kind of revelation that he's been saving people's lives. It was pretty disappointing to me - but really, it shouldn't have been. These kinds of disappointments just keep happening.
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Mar 21, 2015 02:17
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XboxPants posted:I was really hoping Ollie was going to have a big realization of some sort this episode when he was thinking about "why do I do this, why isn't it working, why aren't I getting what I want". I thought maybe it was going in the direction of him deciding to become more of a public figure, go more from just being covertly heroic to becoming a real "superhero". Yeah. I wanted him to come to the realization that, while his efforts may not be enough to make a dent, he has an inspiring effect on people, and maybe he should capitalize on that and work to build a... society... of sorts for taking in those who want to make a difference like him and training them. It would make perfect logical sense. He started doing vigilante stuff on his own, but became a lot more effective as more people joined Team Arrow. While I don't expect him to start posting ads on Craigslist saying "LOCAL VIGILANTE GROUP RECRUITING!!!" I'd like him to start going in that direction. Slow News Day fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Mar 21, 2015 |
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Mar 21, 2015 02:30
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enraged_camel posted:Yeah. I wanted him to come to the realization that, while his efforts may not be enough to make a dent, he has an inspiring effect on people, and maybe he should capitalize on that and work to build a... society... of sorts for taking in those who want to make a difference like him and training them. That would work too. All the stuff with the group of vigilantes who've been building up around them - not the least of which being Flash, and how huge his of a success he is over in Central City - he could easily look at them as see them as being a positive mirror of the League of Assassins. A different sort of league, but a league all the same.
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XboxPants posted:That would work too. All the stuff with the group of vigilantes who've been building up around them - not the least of which being Flash, and how huge his of a success he is over in Central City - he could easily look at them as see them as being a positive mirror of the League of Assassins. A different sort of league, but a league all the same. "League of Vigilantes Who Dish Out Justice Without Killing Anyone"
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Mar 21, 2015 02:39
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I don't think the plot point is over yet, people. Heroes get the benefit of the doubt. If all it takes is a green hood killing people to make the city start thinking the Arrow is a bad guy, then it means Oliver's methods are not working.
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Aphrodite posted:I don't think the plot point is over yet, people. Yeah, I'm hoping that's the case, it's certainly possible. I'm just worried that it's not. Most of the episode was quite good, really, and overall it's been pretty good since it came back.
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Mar 21, 2015 02:47
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enraged_camel posted:Yeah. I wanted him to come to the realization that, while his efforts may not be enough to make a dent, he has an inspiring effect on people, and maybe he should capitalize on that and work to build a... society... of sorts for taking in those who want to make a difference like him and training them. So similar to that Batman story The Dark Knight Returns. Except it's the Son's of Arrow, just trying to keep the team whole.
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overtone posted:How many weapons did Roy use this episode? Arrows, guns, batons, and then pencils? He had a flechette in that last scene when he thought Thea was a baddie, not a pencil.
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Mar 21, 2015 02:51
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Gaz-L posted:He had a flechette in that last scene when he thought Thea was a baddie, not a pencil. I don't know the comics, I thought his thing might be whatever was around.
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I really wish they'd end the flashbacks and dedicate more time to the supporting characters. Glad to see that Roy actually beat someone in a fight for once, though. Hopefully him and Thea getting back together doesn't mean that he's gonna be killed.
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Mar 21, 2015 03:12
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Codependent Poster posted:...Hopefully him and Thea getting back together doesn't mean that he's gonna be killed. Nope, just that Roy is going to be surpised when Thea's midriff is no longer flat and sexy. Arrow Baby plot.
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After failing miserably, Ra's tells Oliver that he sent the douchebag League DJ to sleep with Thea and give her AIDs. The cure? The lazarus pit, but he only get's to use it to cure her if he accepts the offer
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M_Gargantua posted:Nope, just that Roy is going to be surpised when Thea's midriff is no longer flat and sexy. Arrow Baby plot. Spoiler: It's DJ Douchebag's baby.
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This whole "Evil organization give the hero the chance to run it any way he sees fit" really reminds me of the last season of Angel. The good guys are given control of Wolfram and Hart, the evil law firm, but to just be manipulated into bringing about hell on Earth.
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XboxPants posted:But, no. Nothing's actually gonna change at all. He brings up a bunch of totally valid problems, and instead of thinking about any possible ways to address any of them, just comes up with a really obvious excuse for why he's perfectly happy with letting things stay as they are. As if it's supposed to be some kind of revelation that he's been saving people's lives. 'Cuz, like, gosh really? Two whole years? Don't they mean that it's only been two years? Two years is nothing. That's not even a single presidential term. It'd be bizarre if he had fixed everything in the city in two years. Come back when it's been seven, eight, nine or ten years, then complain about how his mission has failed.
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BrianWilly posted:I definitely agree with this in a general "get your poo poo together Oliver" kind of way, but I do think it's kind of silly for the show to be like "Agh, it's been two whole years and I haven't cleaned up crime in the city yet!" Well, the main thing he's disappointed about is that many of the people he sent to jail have come back, either because they broke out or because they got out by exploiting dumb loopholes in the justice system. So I totally get that he feels like he isn't making any permanent impact. From the perspective, he can easily reach the conclusion that the only way to permanently solve crime is to start killing criminals like he used to, since those have not come back.
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That would be an amazing way to go. Instead of Ra's making Ollie look like a villain, everyone starts praising the Arrow for lowering crime.
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Jax-Guy1 posted:This whole "Evil organization give the hero the chance to run it any way he sees fit" really reminds me of the last season of Angel. The good guys are given control of Wolfram and Hart, the evil law firm, but to just be manipulated into bringing about hell on Earth.
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Aphrodite posted:That would be an amazing way to go. I know I'd be more hesitant to mug someone if I knew a trio of nutcases in leather might jump out and stab/bludgeon me into the hospital.
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