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They don't go after the hundreds of convention artists selling direct copies of famous covers. It's an homage and I'm fairly certain there are actual laws protecting him in this case.
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From what I can tell that is not a homage. A homage has to reference a picture, not copy it.
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Mar 21, 2015 04:09
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CharlestheHammer posted:From what I can tell that is not a homage. He didn't trace it, it's not an exact copy. Like I said, go to any major convention and you'll see 100 booths in artist alley where this happens. Now if he was selling prints of the actual art he'd get in trouble. But no, this is his take on a controversial art piece drawn on a book designed to be drawn on. He's fine.
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Mar 21, 2015 04:12
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Well my point is it isn't an homage. Same reason just redrawing the Actions Comics #1 isn't a homage. Its just a copy. Hell its not even in a distinctive style its produced in the exact same way. Though yeah they won't do anything about it, because that is an unspoken thing that is allowed, even if it has always existed on a relatively shaky legal ground.
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Mar 21, 2015 04:17
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CharlestheHammer posted:Well my point is it isn't an homage. Martin Nodell was selling reproductions of covers he drew on the original Green Lantern at conventions back in the day. DC told him to stop and he proved he was homaging himself and kept on selling them.
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Mar 21, 2015 04:21
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The bottom line is that right now it's one rear end in a top hat selling one cover, and literally the stupidest thing DC can do is give him mainstream attention.
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Mar 21, 2015 05:00
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Rhyno posted:Martin Nodell was selling reproductions of covers he drew on the original Green Lantern at conventions back in the day. DC told him to stop and he proved he was homaging himself and kept on selling them. Jesus Christ that is just dumb.
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Mar 21, 2015 05:55
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Marvel responds to Wimberly's Lighten Up comic. quote:Alonso: In his Nib cartoon, Ron posed a question, "Is this racist?", casting a shadow over his editor and, by extension, Marvel. Here's what happened: The issue in question was "Wolverine and the X-Men" #10, a jam book that featured 8 different artists -- 14, if you include colorists -- one of whom was Ron Wimberly. The editor simply asked Ron to match the skin-tone that had been established for the character -- Melita Garner, a Latina -- on previous pages. She would have done the same if Ron had made Melita's skin too light. Wimberly responds by asking artists if the big two ever told them darken up. Aside from that response completely missing the point then going "hey, look at how diverse we are!" it's also really stupid because the "established" skin color was ignored by literally every other artist.
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Mar 21, 2015 06:41
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Convention sketches and the like are still in a sort of grey area. Doing reproductions of your own art is one thing, but DC and Marvel have usually turned a blind eye to the legal issues with sketch art because sketches are an important source of income for many artists... because, frankly, a lot of artists aren't paid what they're worth by comic companies. 
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Mar 21, 2015 06:44
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Teenage Fansub posted:I kinda don't want to perpetuate this anymore, but this is hitting a next level. Not even a tiny "after Albuquerque" caption, which shows how much these morons actually care about artists and their rights Connor Willumsen shared a story in response to Wimberly's piece, this one reminded me of the stuff from This Film Is Not Yet Rated https://thenib.com/penetrating-rule-b49becdbf706
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Mar 21, 2015 08:03
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al-azad posted:Marvel responds to Wimberly's Lighten Up comic.
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Mar 21, 2015 08:15
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al-azad posted:Marvel responds to Wimberly's Lighten Up comic. You see, some of Marvel's best friends are... Here's Connor Willumsen's piece on when was doing a MAX Wolverine book where Marvel were worried people would get the idea that Wolverine may have been having anal sex with a woman. Waterhaul fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Mar 21, 2015 |
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Mar 21, 2015 10:55
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Just think: There's an alternate universe out there where the filming of MI:2 wasn't delayed and we all associate the role of Wolverine with Scottish actor Dougray Scott.
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Mar 21, 2015 12:50
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Waterhaul posted:You see, some of Marvel's best friends are... The last page is sublime.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:12
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So hey now that the apology's been published the only thing I'm wondering about the Sims/D'Orazio thing is: Apparently he started harassing her in the first place because she wrote a Punisher story he thought was awful. So has anybody here read it and is it in fact bad? Just curious.
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Mar 21, 2015 21:29
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TwoPair posted:So hey now that the apology's been published the only thing I'm wondering about the Sims/D'Orazio thing is: Apparently he started harassing her in the first place because she wrote a Punisher story he thought was awful. So has anybody here read it and is it in fact bad? Just curious. I think the beloved page with Punisher posing as a little girl on the Internet is from it.
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Mar 21, 2015 21:52
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Croatoan posted:Just think: There's an alternate universe out there where the filming of MI:2 wasn't delayed and we all associate the role of Wolverine with Scottish actor Dougray Scott. Is it the same universe with Tom Cruise-Tony Stark and Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa-Mandarin?
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Mar 21, 2015 23:15
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fatherboxx posted:I think the beloved page with Punisher posing as a little girl on the Internet is from it. nah, that was from the Girl Comics anthology marvel put out iirc. could be the same author, though.
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^^ Yes, same author.TwoPair posted:So hey now that the apology's been published the only thing I'm wondering about the Sims/D'Orazio thing is: Apparently he started harassing her in the first place because she wrote a Punisher story he thought was awful. So has anybody here read it and is it in fact bad? Just curious. fatherboxx posted:I think the beloved page with Punisher posing as a little girl on the Internet is from it. hwordhan fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Mar 21, 2015 |
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Mar 21, 2015 23:50
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:Is it the same universe with Tom Cruise-Tony Stark and Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa-Mandarin? With Emily Blunt-Black Widow, John Krasinski-Captain America and Alexander Skarsgård-Thor. Waterhaul fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 22, 2015 |
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Mar 22, 2015 00:02
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I wouldn't call that story bad, it's just really bland and predictable. Then again I think Punisher is one of the most bland and predictable characters in Marvel's lineup so I'm a little biased.
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Waterhaul posted:With Emily Blunt-Black Widow, John Krasinski-Captain America and Alexander Skarsgård-Thor. The real question is who the hell plays Hulk in that universe.
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Mar 22, 2015 01:32
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Aphrodite posted:The real question is who the hell plays Hulk in that universe. Ed Norton.
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Mar 22, 2015 01:37
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Aphrodite posted:The real question is who the hell plays Hulk in that universe. Most of those rumours were post Norton Hulk, so probably him, the others at least post Bana, so likely one of those two.
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Mar 22, 2015 01:37
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hwordhan posted:Yes, it's really that bad and no it didn't start it, it probably ended it. Their fight started two perhaps three years before that. Oh okay. D'Orazio talked a lot about the Punisher in her Twitter rant so I thought it was the origin point, but I guess that the Punisher thing was just a particularly sore spot. Thanks for the info though. al-azad posted:Then again I think Punisher is one of the most bland and predictable characters in Marvel's lineup so I'm a little biased. [deadpool_mocking_punisher.jpg]
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Mar 22, 2015 05:03
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Aphrodite posted:The real question is who the hell plays Hulk in that universe. And would we rather live in that universe, or the Wizard Magazine Casting Call universe? The one with Howie Long playing Captain America and Glenn Danzig as Wolverine.
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Mar 22, 2015 06:24
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Skwirl posted:Most of those rumours were post Norton Hulk, so probably him, the others at least post Bana, so likely one of those two. But does the casting butterfly make those movies any less crappy failures that lead to recasting?
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al-azad posted:I wouldn't call that story bad, it's just really bland and predictable. Then again I think Punisher is one of the most bland and predictable characters in Marvel's lineup so I'm a little biased. punisher is in that story for like two pages
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Mar 22, 2015 10:41
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:And would we rather live in that universe, or the Wizard Magazine Casting Call universe? As long as we don't live in the fan casting universe where everyone is wrestlers or 30 years too old to play the role.
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Mar 22, 2015 14:33
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:And would we rather live in that universe, or the Wizard Magazine Casting Call universe? Big Van Vader as Juggernaut would have been AWESOME.
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Mar 22, 2015 16:09
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Lurdiak posted:As long as we don't live in the fan casting universe where everyone is wrestlers or 30 years too old to play the role. The fan casting universe just puts people who were in FIREFLY in everything.
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Mar 22, 2015 17:56
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CaligulaKangaroo posted:And would we rather live in that universe, or the Wizard Magazine Casting Call universe? I don't really know who Glenn Danzig is, but googling him, he looks like he could play closer to the original concept of "hairy, uncharasmatic troll man". Don't get me wrong, Hugh Jackman is awesome, but his portrayal also always rubbed me the wrong way. The need to beutify and clean up a character to bring them closer to sociatal ideals in adaptions pisses me off. But ignoring it's an adaption and Wolverine is just some action movie star character, it's a good portrayal.
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Mar 22, 2015 18:18
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WickedHate posted:I don't really know who Glenn Danzig is, but googling him, he looks like he could play closer to the original concept of "hairy, uncharasmatic troll man". He has been like that in the comics for decades
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Mar 22, 2015 19:22
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bobkatt013 posted:He has been like that in the comics for decades Mostly since the first movie. Even after he got more popular, he usually wasn't presented as nearly attractive and sanatized until Hugh Jackman played him.
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Mar 22, 2015 19:41
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It was more of an Ultimate Wolverine thing than a 616 Wolverine thing.
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Mar 22, 2015 19:51
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WickedHate posted:Mostly since the first movie. Even after he got more popular, he usually wasn't presented as nearly attractive and sanatized until Hugh Jackman played him. When Wolverine relaunched under Greg Rucka and Darick Robertson they were told to alter his look and make him "more Jackmany" after the first few issues.
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Mar 22, 2015 20:12
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Rhyno posted:When Wolverine relaunched under Greg Rucka and Darick Robertson they were told to alter his look and make him "more Jackmany" after the first few issues. Exactly. Who needs more characters with supermodel physieques? It sucks.
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Mar 22, 2015 20:16
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WickedHate posted:Exactly. Who needs more characters with supermodel physieques? It sucks. I forgot to say that their version of the character was really beastly, more of an animalistic look. With the films being the big hot thing Marvel wanted a handsome Wolverine in all the comics. I wonder if he'll be taller when they resurrect him.
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Rhyno posted:I forgot to say that their version of the character was really beastly, more of an animalistic look. With the films being the big hot thing Marvel wanted a handsome Wolverine in all the comics. I wonder if he'll be taller when they resurrect him. Yeah, I got you. Beastly and animalistic is how Wolverine should look. And not in a sexy way, like werewolves in trashy books.
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It's worth pointing out that another key difference between Glenn Danzig and Hugh Jackman is that Jackman was already a professional actor when he was cast, and Danzig was and is not.
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