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JohnnyCanuck posted:I fistpumped and shouted incoherently (but happily) at that last page. This calls for a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuosmf1_mKs
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Has anyone told Warren Ellis that Nextwave is his greatest work alongside Planetary?
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Wheat Loaf posted:It's going to end up with the Avengers facing down the Beyonder. They ask him why he did it. He thinks and replies, "I Want To Know What Love Is." I WANT YOU TO SHOOOOOWWWW MEEEEE!!!!
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Mar 21, 2015 07:06
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Is mighty avengers worth picking up on the basis of NEXTWAVE was awesome? Haven't been reading it, but this NEXTWAVE chat is getting me all excited.
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krakagar posted:Is mighty avengers worth picking up on the basis of NEXTWAVE was awesome? Haven't been reading it, but this NEXTWAVE chat is getting me all excited. It was worth picking up on the basis that Al Ewing is awesome way before they brought in Nextwave. The last volume was great too.
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Mar 21, 2015 09:49
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Deadpool posted:It was worth picking up on the basis that Al Ewing is awesome way before they brought in Nextwave. The last volume was great too. Where should I start?
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Superstring posted:Where should I start? I'm sure others would say start with the recently started volume. I'd say start with the previous one if you can and have the time. That's 14 issues for the last volume and six for the new one. The only stumbling block is Greg Land art on most of the previous, but the writing is great if you can muscle through. I can't stand Land but it was worth pushing through and it's far from his worst stuff though it's still not good. X-O fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Mar 21, 2015 |
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Gatts posted:Has anyone told Warren Ellis that Nextwave is his greatest work alongside Planetary? I'm not sure how he'd take that, considering he seemed to treat the project as an amusing diversion for hire.
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Isn't that how he feels about most of his Marvel work?
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Mar 21, 2015 10:59
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Well, he was up for doing a second year of Nextwave, which is more than you can say for his other Marvel books. But Stuart Immonen blew up at around that time and Marvel felt they couldn't financially justify keeping him on such a low selling book and Warren decided he didn't want to continue with a different artist.
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Mar 21, 2015 11:56
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Superstring posted:Well, he was up for doing a second year of Nextwave, which is more than you can say for his other Marvel books. But Stuart Immonen blew up at around that time and Marvel felt they couldn't financially justify keeping him on such a low selling book and Warren decided he didn't want to continue with a different artist. We nerds ruin everything 
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Mar 21, 2015 18:05
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Nextwave explicitly did not tie in to Civil War or any of the other big events going on at the time, or with any other book, and also did not feature big name characters. It might as well have been asking for low sales.
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Lurdiak posted:Nextwave explicitly did not tie in to Civil War or any of the other big events going on at the time, or with any other book, and also did not feature big name characters. It might as well have been asking for low sales. It wouldn't have been near as great if it had.
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Mar 21, 2015 19:00
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Deadpool posted:I'm sure others would say start with the recently started volume. I'd say start with the previous one if you can and have the time. That's 14 issues for the last volume and six for the new one. The only stumbling block is Greg Land art on most of the previous, but the writing is great if you can muscle through. I can't stand Land but it was worth pushing through and it's far from his worst stuff though it's still not good. I'd say you should definitely start with the previous one though since the current one follows up on a lot of the previous plot threads/characters from there.
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Skwirl posted:It wouldn't have been near as great if it had. Of course, I'm just making my usual point about the way Marvel has conditioned readers to not read books unless they're "important".
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I wonder if it'd do better in today's environment, with books like Squirrel Girl and Ms. Marvel doing well despite not really tying into much of anything else.
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The Foreigner Belt idea is the best idea. I look forward to this Wednesday.
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Gatts posted:The Foreigner Belt idea is the best idea. I look forward to this Wednesday. Aqua teen hunger force would probably sue since the mooninites already used that idea.
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Shawn posted:Aqua teen hunger force would probably sue since the mooninites already used that idea. 
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Shawn posted:Aqua teen hunger force would probably sue since the mooninites already used that idea. They also plotted bombing boston
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Lurdiak posted:Nextwave explicitly did not tie in to Civil War or any of the other big events going on at the time, or with any other book, and also did not feature big name characters. It might as well have been asking for low sales.  
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irlZaphod posted:They did have a cover with Civil War trade dress, though. It would be super awesome for Ewing to reunite Nextwave in Mighty Avengers to fight the Beyond Corporation, I want more Ellis Machine Man, and Elsa Bloodstone.
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Mar 23, 2015 02:09
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I desperately want somebody to use The Captain. Well, not Dan Slott.
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Mar 23, 2015 02:42
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I'm the guy who doesn't like Nextwave it's me
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Blockhouse posted:I'm the guy who doesn't like Nextwave it's me I mean, on one level Next Wave is just five Rocket Racoons yelling "Bang murdered you" for 6 issues. Obviously it's way better and funnier and good art and interesting enemies, but it's still in that region and I can see that not appealing to everone.
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I have no idea what Nextwave is about, and I asked a guy at the store I used to work at and he called it the most self-indulgent Ellis garbage he ever read. So, ymmv
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Nevvy Z posted:I mean, on one level Next Wave is just five Rocket Racoons yelling "Bang murdered you" for 6 issues. Obviously it's way better and funnier and good art and interesting enemies, but it's still in that region and I can see that not appealing to everone. "Not being terrible" is a pretty big difference.
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Four Score posted:I have no idea what Nextwave is about 
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In an interview with Remender about his "Hail Hydra" Secret Wars series. quote:"I'm working on the big post-'Secret Wars' project right now, and it allows me to give readers a very clear and true starting point with a beloved franchise," Remender said. "It enables me to pick and choose what I think are the most integral and exciting aspects of that property. Coming out of the other end of 'Secret Wars,' I'll have the opportunity to do things in a much cleaner fashion. "
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Sounds like either X-Men or Fantastic Four. I'd guess he's the new Uncanny X-Men writer.
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The only title of his that I haven't gotten bored with and dropped is Deadly Class. For me, he ran his X-Goodwill into the ground with Uncanny Avengers. But maybe he could recapture some of that UXF magic if they gave him UXM. Everyone's ready for something a little different than The World's Slowest Storyteller.
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Four Score posted:I have no idea what Nextwave is about, and I asked a guy at the store I used to work at and he called it the most self-indulgent Ellis garbage he ever read. So, ymmv Your guy at the store is a loving dumbass, NEXTWAVE is top tier Ellis. If you hate him in general its not going to change your mind, but otherwise it's amazing.
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Didn't Ellis write that Ghost box poo poo where they end up nuking Forge or something? Because that was the most self-indulgent Ellis wank I can bring to mind by leaps and bounds. But I've never read Nextwave so I guess I'll go fix that now.
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Spiderdrake posted:Didn't Ellis write that Ghost box poo poo where they end up nuking Forge or something? Because that was the most self-indulgent Ellis wank I can bring to mind by leaps and bounds. I liked the overall idea of the ghost boxes but coming in after Whedon and having a really lovely artist didn't do him any favors. If the art was better and he hadn't come in after Whedon it would have just been a mediocre arc of X-Men that nobody remembers. Turning Forge into a bad guy wasn't particularly interesting either. I like Ellis' Thunderbolts more than NextWave but I think NextWave is probably better in the overall.
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Yeah, Nextwave is pure Ellis, so it uses ACTION and DARK HUMOUR and CONTINUITY? gently caress CONTINUITY as giant clubs to beat everything else out of the story but drat if it wasn't something I needed right then. Also callbacks to some of the never-visited history of Marvel Comics.
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Nextwave doesn't even approach the most self-indulgent Ellis work, and I say this as someone who doesn't really love Ellis and isn't too high on Nextwave.
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PaybackJack posted:I liked the overall idea of the ghost boxes but coming in after Whedon and having a really lovely artist didn't do him any favors. The Ghost Boxes short stories were awesome, too. 
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redbackground posted:Bianchi is great for certain types of comics, but these X-Men comics were not those (well, the landscape shots were very pretty). I wish Jimenez had been brought in at the beginning, as his work on the second arc was pretty strong, I thought. I was thinking of Kaare Andrews not Bianchi. I didn't mind Bianchi's stuff so much but it was definitely a bit too messy after Cassaday. God just thinking about the art in that Africa X-Men story is vomit inducing. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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