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sharrrk posted:6WX owned
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Mar 22, 2015 02:38
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Dabuz's Rosalina is worth a thousand Diddies.
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Mar 22, 2015 03:04
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Dabuz has definitely mastered the most boring and successful aspect of this game.
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Mar 22, 2015 03:24
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Reiley posted:Dabuz has definitely mastered the most boring and successful aspect of this game.
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Mar 22, 2015 03:26
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Why did the smash community never ban Metaknight or [now] Diddy? it's boring as gently caress.
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Mar 22, 2015 03:32
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Dizz posted:Why did the smash community never ban Metaknight or [now] Rosalina? it's boring as gently caress. Fixed At least Diddy is somewhat aggro, I guess
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Mar 22, 2015 03:34
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Dizz posted:Why did the smash community never ban Metaknight or [now] Diddy? it's boring as gently caress. Banning a character 5 months into a game's lifespan is hilariously stupid
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Mar 22, 2015 03:34
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Dizz posted:Why did the smash community never ban Metaknight or [now] Diddy? it's boring as gently caress. They tried to ban Meta Knight. Then the Meta Knight mains complained.
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Mar 22, 2015 03:35
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Countblanc posted:Banning a character 5 months into a game's lifespan is hilariously stupid When will it not be hilariously stupid? in another 5 years after the game's community is mostly Diddy and nobody wants to ban him because it's their main?
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Mar 22, 2015 03:36
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Dizz posted:When will it not be hilariously stupid? in another 5 years after the game's community is mostly Diddy and nobody wants to ban him because it's their main? Hahaha
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Mar 22, 2015 03:36
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people want to ban villager's balloon custom already because of ADHD
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Mar 22, 2015 03:43
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Great finisher
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Mar 22, 2015 03:44
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congrats to diddy
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Mar 22, 2015 03:44
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mabels big day posted:people want to ban villager's balloon custom already because of ADHD The Tripping Tree is the bigger problem.
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Mar 22, 2015 03:45
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Banning this early in the meta is certainly dumb. In another six months, maybe not so much.
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Mar 22, 2015 03:47
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Dreyvas posted:Banning this early in the meta is certainly dumb. In another six months, maybe not so much. Hopefully in another six months an actual balance patch will have dropped
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Mar 22, 2015 03:53
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i have no idea how anyone can think that custom villager was enjoyable to watch aside from if you got an extreme hate boner for ppl who play competitive smash bros there is a guy i work with who did this exact thing as soon as he got the game and its really frustrating to play against
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Mar 22, 2015 03:53
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Diddy is nowhere near as busted as Metaknight was. Custom Villager might be an issue, but there's at least a hard counter in Pikachu.
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Mar 22, 2015 03:54
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The core problem of this Smash is being aggressive puts you at risk, so if you don't move in you're never really vulnerable and that places an huge incentive on sitting put and making the other person come to you, which gives us plays like that custom Villager and anything Dabuz does. If there were more blockstun, or incentive to attack, I think that would alleviate a lot of the game's problems, otherwise it's just a tremendous amount of work without making any mistakes to uproot someone willing to just sit there and make you shake a fight out of them, and I don't think bans really solve a problem in the game's core mechanics.
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Mar 22, 2015 04:03
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Maleficent posted:i have no idea how anyone can think that custom villager was enjoyable to watch aside from if you got an extreme hate boner for ppl who play competitive smash bros It was really funny regardless of my hate-boners. Plus I mean, the matches he won on stream were actually pretty clutch when it got right down to it. Beating a guy like Nairo is no small feat.
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Mar 22, 2015 04:07
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Reiley posted:The core problem of this Smash is being aggressive puts you at risk, so if you don't move in you're never really vulnerable and that places an huge incentive on sitting put and making the other person come to you, which gives us plays like that custom Villager and anything Dabuz does. If there were more blockstun, or incentive to attack, I think that would alleviate a lot of the game's problems, otherwise it's just a tremendous amount of work without making any mistakes to uproot someone willing to just sit there and make you shake a fight out of them, and I don't think bans really solve a problem in the game's core mechanics. This hits the root of the problem. It's not Diddy or Rosalina or any top tier character.
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Mar 22, 2015 04:17
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A good example of what Reiley is talking about : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gfi27vrF4k&t=938s Basically it's just Jtails getting 'trolled'. But it shows how effective playing slow and safe is in this game. It's funny how Sakurai said he didn't like how the competitive scene was so defensive, yet this is the most defense-rewarding game yet.
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Mar 22, 2015 04:19
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Silver Sound posted:It's funny how Sakurai said he didn't like how the competitive scene was so defensive, yet this is the most defense-rewarding game yet. If Sakurai really said that, he's a loving idiot and should not have anything to do with the balance of the next Smash. I can only imagine a lot of the questionable character design and game mechanics are the result of him sitting around saying, "You're supposed to stand there and get hit by this when I say so!"
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Mar 22, 2015 04:28
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TenaciousJ posted:If Sakurai really said that, he's a loving idiot and should not have anything to do with the balance of the next Smash. I can only imagine a lot of the questionable character design and game mechanics are the result of him sitting around saying, "You're supposed to stand there and get hit by this when I say so!" Falcon Punch?
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Mar 22, 2015 04:32
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Quite frankly, Sakurai is a better man than all of you and I'm getting a little sick of the disrespect
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Mar 22, 2015 04:35
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Cake Attack posted:Quite frankly, Sakurai is a better man than all of you and I'm getting a little sick of the disrespect "man" 
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Mar 22, 2015 04:37
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Dizz posted:Falcon Punch? Ganondorf's entire moveset after Melee
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Mar 22, 2015 04:39
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Did anyone upload the ADHD villager video to youtube yet? this vod is 10 hours long and I don't really feel like skimming it right now.
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Mar 22, 2015 04:39
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Dizz posted:Did anyone upload the ADHD villager video to youtube yet? this vod is 10 hours long and I don't really feel like skimming it right now. Maximum Villager Bullshit The counterpick
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Mar 22, 2015 05:06
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gay skull posted:"man" "Reverse-aging vampire" does not sound as good as "man". Besides, everything points to him being a masculine reverse-aging vampire. Probably a good friend of fellow reverse-aging vampire Hirohiko Araki. What I'm saying is that the next Super Smash Bros. totally needs to add Jojo characters.
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Mar 22, 2015 05:15
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Silver Sound posted:A good example of what Reiley is talking about : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gfi27vrF4k&t=938s I hope they take note of how people play in For Glory and use that to improve the game
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Mar 22, 2015 05:26
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Blaze Dragon posted:"Reverse-aging vampire" does not sound as good as "man". Besides, everything points to him being a masculine reverse-aging vampire. Probably a good friend of fellow reverse-aging vampire Hirohiko Araki. We already have two characters with Stands. One of them even does fabulous poses, as does another unrelated character who does not have a Stand. 
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Mar 22, 2015 05:28
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ChaosArgate posted:We already have two characters with Stands. One of them even does fabulous poses, as does another unrelated character who does not have a Stand. Yes but I'm a poo poo Zelda and Rosalina player. Which, admittedly, is entirely my fault. I don't care much about Rosalina but I should totally learn Zelda.
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Mar 22, 2015 05:34
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Reiley posted:The core problem of this Smash is being aggressive puts you at risk, so if you don't move in you're never really vulnerable and that places an huge incentive on sitting put and making the other person come to you, which gives us plays like that custom Villager and anything Dabuz does. If there were more blockstun, or incentive to attack, I think that would alleviate a lot of the game's problems, otherwise it's just a tremendous amount of work without making any mistakes to uproot someone willing to just sit there and make you shake a fight out of them, and I don't think bans really solve a problem in the game's core mechanics. There's no rock/paper/scissor element. It's just about always better to be on the defensive because there is virtually no punishment for it, whereas attacking leaves you wide open. The individual character balance is honestly pretty drat good, but in the end it comes down to how well a fighter can deal with turtling garbage, and a whole lot of the cast can't. I'm curious how the game would play if there weren't shields at all and only dodges.
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Mar 22, 2015 05:50
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Whatev posted:I'm curious how the game would play if there weren't shields at all and only dodges. Or no defensive options at all, and no grabs. That's how I played the demo on my broken 3DS, and let me tell you it was tough.
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Mar 22, 2015 06:25
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Certain characters can force opponents to attack them. If you're Samus and the enemy just waits for you to approach you can just keep hitting them with rockets and charge-shots and eventually their shield will break. If they manage to just dodge all your shots and rockets...then you need to get better aim. Basically any character that can apply ranged pressure can force a turtling opponent to act.
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Mar 22, 2015 07:40
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Fhate posted:Certain characters can force opponents to attack them. If you're Samus and the enemy just waits for you to approach you can just keep hitting them with rockets and charge-shots and eventually their shield will break. If they manage to just dodge all your shots and rockets...then you need to get better aim. Basically any character that can apply ranged pressure can force a turtling opponent to act. Not falco or little mac or DK or Bowser
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Mar 22, 2015 07:49
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Turtlicious posted:Not falco or little mac or DK or Bowser None of those characters can apply ranged pressure.
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Sitting there trading projectiles is intensely boring, like Jtails' Pikachu vs. the Villager was just entirely throwing out thunder jolts which was definitely not the highlight of the tournament but apparently a necessary evil to help him win. It's like Whatev said, the game is fantastic as long as both people are on the same page but once one person decides to set up camp then nobody gets to have fun. It's sort of lovely that playing the game in a fun way requires that unspoken gentleman's agreement not to pluck the low-hanging fruit, because there's always someone willing to pluck it and you can't actually stop them once they commit to it.
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