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bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Cleretic posted:

You might be thinking of Tomorrow When The War Began, which isn't actually a nuclear apocalypse, but probably had similar notes getting hit. It's possible you misremembered the 'nuclear' part.

I wanted to point the finger at a prolific author I remember reading a lot of in the curriculum around that age, but I don't actually remember who that was; I thought it was Paul Jennings, but I just checked and that's a different guy. I remember one of their books was a sci-fi retelling of the First Fleet, is that ringing bells for anyone else?

EDIT: Beaten on Tomorrow, oh well.
I wish it was that but I read Tomorrow for the first time a few years ago. The book I'm looking for talked vividly about the effects of radiation poisoning on people and the earth.

I also remember it describing scenes of tons of dead people, too many to bury.

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
We definitely did Children of the Dust in year 7 or 8 but since I haven't read it in 20 years anything I could tell you could be read on Wikipedia.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Doctor Spaceman posted:

We definitely did Children of the Dust in year 7 or 8 but since I haven't read it in 20 years anything I could tell you could be read on Wikipedia.
It seems most likely, cheers. I'll have to check it out to see if its the same book.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
Stone (1974)is a super sick bikie movie filmed around Balmain, Kurnell and (I think) La Peruse. Had bike scenes that were way before their time. Tarantino likes it but appeals to authority suck but it might give you an idea of what it is like




The Proposition is a western film directed by Nick Cave and set on Winton, western central QLD. Stars Guy Pearce and is grim. I don't give a gently caress about Nick Caves music but this movie is really solid.


freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

How have you been talking about Australian cinema for this long without mentioning Animal Kingdom? Absolutely brilliant film. Shame The Rover was a bit of a letdown.

Inge
Jan 16, 2007
SERIOUSLY THATS DISGUSTING I'M TRYING TO EAT

bowmore posted:

I wish it was that but I read Tomorrow for the first time a few years ago. The book I'm looking for talked vividly about the effects of radiation poisoning on people and the earth.

I also remember it describing scenes of tons of dead people, too many to bury.

It's not On the Beach by Nevil Shute is it?

Foreman Domai
Apr 2, 2010

"In one dimension I find existence, in two I find life, but in three, I find freedom."

bowmore posted:

One thing I remember specifically is they turned away Goths at the settlement or whatever it was they were staying at.

If I recall Year 9 English correctly then, yeah, you're thinking of Children of The Dust. It's a pretty weird book.

Foreman Domai fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Mar 22, 2015

MiniSune
Sep 16, 2003

Smart like Dodo!
Walkabout whilst pretty boring was gorgeously shot with some awesome cinematography. Also tits.

My old boss did the sound work, six months in the outback getting hosed up, the film was almost an accidental byproduct.

Also emoh ruo for poo poo 80's films lampooning new home owners. And also tits.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




MiniSune posted:

Also tits.

And also tits.

Who could forget Sirens

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

bowmore posted:

I wish it was that but I read Tomorrow for the first time a few years ago. The book I'm looking for talked vividly about the effects of radiation poisoning on people and the earth.

I also remember it describing scenes of tons of dead people, too many to bury.

On the Beach?

We were made to read David Malouf's dreary book about WWI. Also The Year of Living Dangerously.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Reminder :goonmeet is on tonight at Mu'ooz in West end at 1830.

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
So I published a paper today in the MJA about how the freeze to Medicare is going to have twice the impact than the now retracted $5 rebate reduction.

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2015/202/6/cost-freezing-general-practice

I also wrote a companion piece in the Conversation. If you like it, please share it!

The Conversation posted:

High cost of GP rebate freeze may see co-payments rise from the dead

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has declared that GP co-payments are “dead, buried and cremated”. This contrasts with health minister Sussan Ley’s desire to “reduce the number of bulk-billed consultations to people who can afford to pay something”.

So, what is likely to emerge from Ley’s Medicare reform consultations?

In a paper published today in the Medical Journal of Australia, our new modelling shows the freeze on Medicare fees paid to GPs will leave doctors A$8.43 worse off per consultation with non-concessional patients by 2017-18. That’s a bigger shortfall than the now-abandoned A$5 rebate cut – and is likely to prompt many GPs to start charging a co-payment.

Currently, legislative restraints mean that GPs are only able to charge the government directly for patient care (bulk-billing) if they do not charge the patient a co-payment.

However, Ley has suggested that the government would consider legislative change that would remove this restriction. This would mean that GPs could bulk-bill the scheduled fee and also charge a co-payment.

With GPs facing greater economic pressure and the health minister considering legislative changes to make it easier for GP to charge them, GP co-payments, like Lazarus, may rise again from the dead.

First, a quick recap

The first of the recent co-payment policies was revealed in the 2014-15 Federal budget. It proposed a A$7 patient co-payment for GP, pathology and imaging services to offset a A$5 reduction in the associated Medicare rebates. The financial impact of the original co-payment proposals was greatest for Commonwealth Concession card patients.

Facing strong opposition, the government withdrew the A$7 co-payment policy in December 2014, and replaced it with three new policies. The first, a ten-minute minimum for standard GP consultations (the “A$20 co-payment”) was retracted in January.

The second, a A$5 reduction in the Medicare rebate for “common GP consultations” for non-concessional patients was retracted in March. It was this retraction that led Prime Minister Abbott to state co-payments were “dead, buried and cremated”.

However, the third policy announced in December remains on the table. It is a continuation of the indexation freeze for all Medicare schedule fees until July 2018. While not a direct cut to GPs' income, over time GPs would earn relatively less while their costs would increase.

The cost of the ‘freeze’

In our modelling for MJA, we used data from the University of Sydney’s Bettering the Evaluation and Care of Health (BEACH) study to estimate the amount of rebate claimable through Medicare per 100 GP consultations. BEACH is a continuous cross-sectional, national study of the content of GP-patient encounters in Australia.

More than half (54.4%) of GP consultations were with concessional patients (those under 16 years of age or those holding a health care card) while 46.6% were with non-concessional patients.

We calculated that in 2014-15, an average bulk-billing GP would earn A$4,998.28 from Medicare rebates per 100 consultations.

For GPs to maintain rebate income equivalent to 2014-15, the Medicare scheduled fees would have to increase in line with CPI. So assuming an annual CPI increase of 2.5%, by 2017-18 these fees would need to increase by 7.7% – A$384.32 per 100 consultations.

By freezing fees until 2017-18, the government is cutting the GPs’ gross earnings by 7.1% in relative terms. Assuming concessional patients are all bulk-billed, this A$384.32 decrease equates to A$8.43 per non-concessional patient consultation.

In comparison, the (now retracted) A$5 reduction in rebate for most consultations with non-concessional patients would have amounted to a loss of A$219.53 per 100 consultations, or A$4.81 per consultation with a non-concessional patient.

Making up the shortfall

While public discussion has focused on the now retracted A$5 reduction, the freeze will have a greater impact: A$8.43 per non-concessional patient consultation by 2017-18, nearly double the amount of the rebate reduction.

The 7.1% reduction in GP rebate income by 2017-18 from the freeze may economically force GPs who currently bulk-bill to charge a co-payment to their non-concessional patients. As Grattan Institute health economist Professor Stephen Duckett notes, this is a “co-payment policy by stealth”.

Our estimates are conservative. The A$8.43 figure would be the minimum charge needed to make up for the GPs lost income. We did not account for: administrative costs in implementing new billing systems; increased bad debt; the previous freeze of fees; and lost income when a GP chooses to bulk-bill non-concessional patients facing financial hardship.

It is therefore likely that GPs who opt to charge a co-payment, will charge more than our estimates. Further, after abandoning bulk-billing, some GPs may take the opportunity to charge more than that required to merely recoup their rebate loss.

Statements by health minister Ley and the ongoing effect of the index freeze suggest we’re likely to see GP co-payments in the near future.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Inge posted:

It's not On the Beach by Nevil Shute is it?
Nah but it sounds interesting.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

freebooter posted:

How have you been talking about Australian cinema for this long without mentioning Animal Kingdom? Absolutely brilliant film. Shame The Rover was a bit of a letdown.

Was gonna mention this one.


Why do all Australian films have the same vibe though?

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I was going go say Animal Kingdom but I had already mentioned a couple of crime films.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
What uncultured freaks you guys must be if you haven't mentioned "He died with a felafel in his hand" or "bad boy bubby"

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Birb Katter posted:

What uncultured freaks you guys must be if you haven't mentioned "He died with a felafel in his hand" or "bad boy bubby"
BE STILL KAT.

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Fruity Gordo posted:

Baz Luhrman Is Bad.

more like: Spaz durrman

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
What about our boy Russell's earlier films? I liked the one where he was Jack Thompson's gay son, and Romper Stomper

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

starkebn posted:

What about our boy Russell's earlier films? I liked the one where he was Jack Thompson's gay son, and Romper Stomper
Those two movies would have made an interesting cross-over.

nockturne
Aug 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

That looks really good, I'm going to have to remember to look it up.

Threads? It's one of those films (like Come and See) that's really important commentary on war which everyone should watch but which will take you a day or two to get over, just a warning. Especially the ending. I think there might have been an alternative ending actually since the real one was deemed just too traumatic.

Looking at the wiki page for it: when it was first shown on Australian television it screened without any commercial breaks. I'd forgotten that.

Threads and The Day After: two films that permanently scarred a generation of Australian schoolkids and probably helped turn a lot of us into strident anti-war protestors. Growing up with the very real threat of nuclear annihilation at any second was not fun.

On The Beach is Threads in book form and well worth a read too.

All this talk of old ozspolitation cinema reminded me of a couple of others I'd forgotten about : They're a Weird Mob and And the Big Men Fly. And Alby Mangels. Don't suppose anyone in this thread will remember those.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

nockturne posted:

And Alby Mangels. Don't suppose anyone in this thread will remember those.

I remember Alby Mangels at least, if only very vaguely.

Mad Katter
Aug 23, 2010

STOP THE BATS

Birb Katter posted:

What uncultured freaks you guys must be if you haven't mentioned "He died with a felafel in his hand" or "bad boy bubby"

Bad Boy Bubby owns. It's the most hosed up movie.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts
There was a Threads anniversary edition released a whiles back on DVD.

As you say if you lived through the eighties that was some very scary poo poo to watch. And still is now.

The Day After was a bit easier to watch as the timeframe was pretty short. Still pretty bad though.

Still love They're a Weird Mob though.

World Safari at the Broadmeadows Town Hall. It felt like a school excursion. If memory serves after years travelling Alby couldn't get a his movie picked up so he said, "gently caress it, I'll release it myself".

Which is exactly what you expect a dude who globe trotted like some action figure for six years to do.

Graic Gabtar fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Mar 22, 2015

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Birb Katter posted:

What uncultured freaks you guys must be if you haven't mentioned "He died with a felafel in his hand" or "bad boy bubby"

Australia is the cat the mum is rupert the dadboyfriend(?) is the class system and their dindgy apartment is the australian media.

Freudian Slip posted:

So I published a paper today in the MJA about how the freeze to Medicare is going to have twice the impact than the now retracted $5 rebate reduction.

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2015/202/6/cost-freezing-general-practice

I also wrote a companion piece in the Conversation. If you like it, please share it!
http://theconversation.com/high-cost-of-gp-rebate-freeze-may-see-co-payments-rise-from-the-dead-38786


Thanks for doing the effort work to get this information out. I shared it around.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Mar 22, 2015

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

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CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

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everyone should watch this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hksTVKfwVA0

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

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Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Speaking of Australia's cultural wasteland someone found out how to see what's in the Australian Netflix catalog and its actually good: http://imgur.com/a/wz74R

And cheap:

Hope y'all have FttH like me

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

cpaf posted:

Speaking of Australia's cultural wasteland someone found out how to see what's in the Australian Netflix catalog and its actually good: http://imgur.com/a/wz74R

And cheap:

Hope y'all have FttH like me

Who do you think we are, having fibre and homes, Malcolm Turnbull????

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009

cpaf posted:

Speaking of Australia's cultural wasteland someone found out how to see what's in the Australian Netflix catalog and its actually good: http://imgur.com/a/wz74R

And cheap:

Hope y'all have FttH like me

That catalogue is far better than I was expecting starting out after people making a big deal about Foxtel etc. holding so many exclusive licenses.

They'll get my :10bux:

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

australian netflix will never have any good shows b/c of the Iron Fist of Murdoch and our draconian licensing laws *gets a million good shows*

e; I've had US netflix for about 6 months now and I'll definitely be resubbing for Australian netflix since that price is way better with the dollar disparity. HBO is releasing something called "HBO Now" in the next month or so which they've suggested will be about $15 a month and offer the entire HBO catalog without a cable subscription. $12aud + $15usd sure beats $60-90 a month for loving Foxtel

Thinking fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Mar 23, 2015

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

cpaf posted:

australian netflix will never have any good shows b/c of the Iron Fist of Murdoch and our draconian licensing laws *gets a million good shows*
It will go back to the old question of "Can I wait?" if no then torrent.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Malcolm!

A great flick.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts
I think this is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Not even bad enough to be good.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Isn't Game of Thrones the only reason people wanted Netflix anyway?

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Game of Thrones isn't on Netflix lol.

Actually it's because the other local streaming services like Quickflix are trash with lovely range.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Netflix is also apparently going to be unmetered on internode and iinet which is ownage

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Its still a fair bit more expensive than buying blocks of usenet access, to access a range of shows I dont really want to watch, and means my connection would be slowed down while its in use, which would be the same timeslot Im usually playing games online.

So Im out. but the pricing makes it nice for people who dont have the hardware or know how to pirate properly.

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

open24hours posted:

Isn't Game of Thrones the only reason people wanted Netflix anyway?

Australia pirates a shitload of stuff, including things which aren't Game of Thrones.

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