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KKKLIP ART posted:I would be down with this. It would be kind of neat to see how things turn out with something a little more silly. We should only do it if a team can be so bad that they get into the negatives though. Clearly. For instance, simply counting defensive touchdowns as negative points for the offense would have resulted in last year's GT/Clemson score being 16 to -6.
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Raku posted:Field goals should be worth a point for every ten yard increment. This is the NFL, but the Colts had a proposition where you could kick a 50 yard field goal if you made a two point conversion.
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Would this hypothetical defensive touchdown only take points away from the team that lost the ball (which is already bad enough) or would it also give some points to the team that scored the defensive touchdown?
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KKKLIP ART posted:Would this hypothetical defensive touchdown only take points away from the team that lost the ball (which is already bad enough) or would it also give some points to the team that scored the defensive touchdown? Hmm. I think it should just be negative points. It would affect the point differential the same way, but not punish the defense by skewing PPG.
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I like how boredom in the offseason results in stuff like this on a good forum. We did some fun stuff over the years(Adopt A Mid-Major, ran our own poll, etc) and this could be fun at least for awhile. I'd do scores for the Coastal, the P5's most laughably bad conference. Also with how VT plays defensively and occasionally offensively there's probably going to be some ridiculous scores. For instance, I think VT beat GT 37 to -14 one year thanks to the magic of Reggie Ball.
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6-4 becomes 2-0 Iowa kicks two field goals to win 2-0 is almost too confusing to conceptualize.
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2014 UF-Mizzou would've ended 28 to (-1), which would've been an incredibly accurate reflection of the events of that game. Mizzou had 28 offensive points, and 14 off a pick-6 and fumble-6 (1 min apart!!). UF picked up 13pts in garbage time after Driskel was dropped through the malcontent door.
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The UCLA vs Notre Dame game in 2007 would have ended 13 to -1, which is a much more appropriately funny score than the 20-6 final it actually was. e: Just remembered about this one: UCLA vs Virginia last year. 28-20 would've instead been 7 to -1, thanks to two pick sixes and a fumble six. VDay fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Mar 22, 2015 |
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In 2013, Penn State would have lost in regulation to Michigan, instead of winning in 4OT.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:We should collectively agree on an alternate scoring system that includes point deductions/increases, then run a season-long thread posting final scores for all games. I will score for the big ten west and PAC 12 north. It will give me something to do to laugh at my pathetic purple teams (90% chance I'm moving to Seattle in the fall so I'm going to adopt Washington as my secondary team and I've heard nothing but sad things in this thread about them)
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Points off turnovers (ie scores in the ensuing possession after a turnover) rather than turnovers that end in a score can count half for the offense and half for the defense, so that one team goes up 3 and 1.5 for TD's and Field Goals and the other team goes down. That gives you fractional points!
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Negative points would actually gently caress up the PPG for defenses and offenses just as much as they currently do. It would just swing it the opposite direction. Currently if Team A gives up a pick six to Team B, and then responds on the next drive with a score you have: Team A: 7 points Team B: 7 points And both teams PPG is 7 on both offense and defense If you go to negative points for defensive scores and the same scenario happens you have: Team A: 0 points Team B: 0 points And both teams PPG is 0 on both offense and defense. I still think it would be cool to do negative points for defensive scores. It just wouldn't have the stats impact you'd expect it to.
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Thoguh posted:Negative points would actually gently caress up the PPG for defenses and offenses just as much as they currently do. It would just swing it the opposite direction. 7-7 is the same as 0-0, and the offense is given zero points because it has netted zero total points. The defense gave up zero points in scenario 1, but appear to be responsible for 7 points. In scenario 2, the offense is indeed responsible for zero points, as is the defense. It's a better representation. ________ This is similar in spirit to the sack loss yardage. It drives me crazy it counts against rushing totals in CFB. I prefer the NFL model where it is deducted from passing yardage because it seems more accurate. It wasn't a rushing yard loss because they weren't attempting to rush. LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Mar 22, 2015 |
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LeeMajors posted:This is similar in spirit to the sack loss yardage. It drives me crazy it counts against rushing totals in CFB. I prefer the NFL model where it is deducted from passing yardage because it seems more accurate. It wasn't a rushing yard loss because they weren't attempting to rush. - a man who has never seen Maty Mauk under pressure
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Groucho Marxist posted:- a man who has never seen Maty Mauk under pressure Hell if you gain yards, it should be under rushing yards. If you're sacked on a passing attempt it should be deducted from passing yards.
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I disagree. The pass hasn't happened until the throwing motion begins. That's the threshold for pass attempt versus fumble, so it should logically be the threshold for "passing play" versus "rushing play" and how the yardage is recorded. How do you decide if its a pass attempt or a rush? At what point does it turn from pass attempt to rush attempt? Is a scrambling QB passing? A draw? How do you handle the option? Sash! fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Mar 22, 2015 |
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Sash! posted:I disagree. The pass hasn't happened until the throwing motion begins. That's the threshold for pass attempt versus fumble, so it should logically be the threshold for "passing play" versus "rushing play" and how the yardage is recorded. Yeah, the lines have certainly been blurred with read-option or packaged plays. The NFL doesn't seem to have such a problem determining pass attempt vs. rush attempt. I think if the QB is tackled behind the line of scrimmage it should be considered a sack unless it's an obvious run play (QB draw, option, whatever). It would definitely be scorekeeper discretion. Scorekeepers decide plays with much finer distinctions than this one.
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Groucho Marxist posted:- a man who has never seen Maty Mauk under pressure Lol I remember the year before when he had an amazing game against UF and everyone thought he was the second coming of Christ
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pillsburysoldier posted:Anyone have any interesting spring practice news? Coach D said that spring practice is about training individual player skills, and when asked what they were working on said "I don't know, I was calling the defense and didn't have time to pay attention"
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Sash! posted:How do you decide if its a pass attempt or a rush? At what point does it turn from pass attempt to rush attempt? Is a scrambling QB passing? A draw? How do you handle the option? I haven't reffed in years so I'll defer to one of the guys that is still reffing, but from what I remember every play starts as a running play until a pass is thrown. At that point everything previous to that point becomes a passing play, while everything after the catch is a running play.
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Texas Tech's stadium is not available because the seating is being replaced, so they have declared the Midland scrimmage (3rd year of an off campus scrimmage in a donor hotbed) to be this year's official spring game. Other than that, the spring practices have been extremely closed, so there has been pretty much nothing at all coming out. Webb's been throwing, which is good considering he's coming off surgery on his non-throwing shoulder. Mahomes has only missed one practice due to baseball, and won't miss another (since he doesn't have the control and speed to be an effective pitcher and is not good enough a hitter to crack the rotation as a freshman). The defensive line is getting some actual coaching with their new DL Coach, Mike Smith. Some of the few quotes to come out of practice have included one about the DL finally learning technique. The defense itself is learning a new look, but no telling how that's going to turn out until the 3rd week of the season.
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LeeMajors posted:7-7 is the same as 0-0, and the offense is given zero points because it has netted zero total points. Fair enough. If you're looking at net points that works.
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vyst posted:Lol I remember the year before when he had an amazing game against UF and everyone thought he was the second coming of Christ Even when he has good games he refuses to ever throw the ball away and it gets really funny
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pillsburysoldier posted:Anyone have any interesting spring practice news? Other than what I posted a few days ago not much. UGA had practice #3 yesterday, but I haven't seen anything on the SBNation blog or the pay site frontpages. I feel like they are keeping the media out especially now that we have a new OC, so don't want to give anyone ideas of what they are coaching up. Who knows,. Only thing I saw was that defensive players feel great this year after having a full year under Pruitt. Guy is a wizard and I only expect to have him for a few more seasons before someone scoops him up to be a head coach somewhere.
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pillsburysoldier posted:Anyone have any interesting spring practice news? Seth Russell is basically guaranteed to be Baylor's next starting QB and Art Briles intends to feature plays that put a 410 pound man in the slot. That's basically it for concrete stuff out of Baylor's Spring. Less concretely the secondary actually looked like it was improving a good deal at Baylor's Spring Game, doing a pretty good job at staying with everyone not named KD Cannon or Corey Coleman and getting a couple of ints and breakups without drawing any flags. Chris Platt and Ishmael Zamora might be the new names to watch at WR. Zamora's very big and very physical, drawing some Josh Gordon comps, while Platt is very very very fast ala Tevin Reese. O-line depth might be a problem if people get injured, but the first team O-line looked very very good. Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Mar 22, 2015 |
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KKKLIP ART posted:Other than what I posted a few days ago not much. UGA had practice #3 yesterday, but I haven't seen anything on the SBNation blog or the pay site frontpages. I feel like they are keeping the media out especially now that we have a new OC, so don't want to give anyone ideas of what they are coaching up. Who knows,. Only thing I saw was that defensive players feel great this year after having a full year under Pruitt. Guy is a wizard and I only expect to have him for a few more seasons before someone scoops him up to be a head coach somewhere. Also Richt hasn't picked a QB yet so in esteemed Georgia tradition it'll be whoever comes in second in the Spring Game.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Minnesota is gonna torch everybody Make sure you get TCU while you're at it.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:Also Richt hasn't picked a QB yet so in esteemed Georgia tradition it'll be whoever comes in second in the Spring Game. Honestly I bet it is either Ramsey or Park. I don't know that Shotty/Richt will run an option-ish enough offense to really take advantage of Bauta's legs. Its funny though, the only think I hear about Ramsey is that he has a big arm, but not a lot of playbook knowledge and everything I hear about Park is that he was crazy great in his roll for the practice squad and took to the playbook really well, and had a big arm. IDK.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Minnesota is gonna torch everybody Iowa state is gonna get torched by everybody.
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KKKLIP ART posted:Honestly I bet it is either Ramsey or Park. I don't know that Shotty/Richt will run an option-ish enough offense to really take advantage of Bauta's legs. Its funny though, the only think I hear about Ramsey is that he has a big arm, but not a lot of playbook knowledge and everything I hear about Park is that he was crazy great in his roll for the practice squad and took to the playbook really well, and had a big arm. IDK. I'd expect Ramsey considering there's still plenty of time to learn a brand new playbook and he's a bit better overall, while Bauta would make a great H-back if they wanted to play around with that. G-Day will be really interesting. You going? HOTLANTA MAN fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 22, 2015 |
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:I'd expect Ramsey considering there's still plenty of time to learn a brand new playbook and he's a bit better overall, while Bauta would make a great H-back if they wanted to play around with that. G-Day will be really interesting. I was to begin with, but I am actually going up to NC because my wife is running a half marathon with her sister, so I'll be out of town. Probably plenty of time to watch it on my phone while waiting for the race to finish though.
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Penn State going to torch maybe three teams and then blindly stagger to an 8-5 season.
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Sash! posted:Penn State going to torch maybe three teams and then blindly stagger to an 8-5 season. The absolute horror of going 8-5.
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Thoguh posted:The absolute horror of going 8-5. PSU hasn't won eight games for two straight seasons. Shameful.
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Sash! posted:PSU hasn't won eight games for two straight seasons. Shameful. ISU hasn't won 8 games in two season.
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Baylor gonna go undefeated. For realsies this time.
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Thoguh posted:Iowa state is gonna get torched by everybody. I know a guy who goes to Iowa State. He's a barely functioning alcoholic.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:I know a guy who goes to Iowa State. He's a barely functioning alcoholic. couldn't this be like any college student, especially any college football fan?
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