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Parachute posted:Cruz is smart in the sense that he knows he has not only no chance of a nomination, but no chance of becoming President so he just starts his race early hoping to catch big donators as early as possible. You're ascribing a level of self-awareness he's yet to demonstrate.
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He did also release a 2:20 English-language version of his campaign pitch and it will shock you if you know literally nothing about Ted Cruz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEOKJRkhpxg
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Mar 23, 2015 14:13
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Good Citizen posted:Every indication is that Cruz really really wants to be president and is willing to burn the party to the ground if he can't get what he wants. Agreed. I don't know where people are getting the idea that he has a reasonable understanding of his own ability. He pretty clearly loves himself over anything else and probably considers the presidency his destiny more than Mitt ever did.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:17
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Remember that anyone who reaches the level of senator probably has an entire team surrounding him and validating him at all times. And libertarians already lack all self-awareness, so
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Mar 23, 2015 14:20
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comes along bort posted:You're ascribing a level of self-awareness he's yet to demonstrate. But if he ever exhibits any kind of self-awareness, someone could possibly catch on to his giant scam!
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Mar 23, 2015 14:23
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Ted Cruz forgot the first rule of running for office in the information age: Register all domains before someone else does.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:23
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OK, so I just read like the last 200 posts, and  loving Ted Cruz is really doing this?Someone please reassure me that he has no path to the nomination and especially no path to the White House.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:28
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Alter Ego posted:OK, so I just read like the last 200 posts, and He has no path to the nomination whatsoever, and will exist largely to sink everyone else.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:33
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BTW so I saw it in that Ted Cruz video and this is something that's always bugged me. What's the deal with the national debt clock? Did a politician really think at some point "hey it's good publicity if we give all these people (who have no idea how national debt works' the impression that we're irresponsibly spending their money'?
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Mar 23, 2015 14:35
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Dancer posted:BTW so I saw it in that Ted Cruz video and this is something that's always bugged me. What's the deal with the national debt clock? Did a politician really think at some point "hey it's good publicity if we give all these people (who have no idea how national debt works' the impression that we're irresponsibly spending their money'? No, they literally thought "If people see these numbers get bigger they'll blame Obama!"
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Mar 23, 2015 14:37
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The government shutdown was immensely unpopular and his name was all over it. He is unpopular with the Republican establishment. Presidential primaries tend to be won by moderates and general elections moreso. It's not happening.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:38
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Alter Ego posted:No, they literally thought "If people see these numbers get bigger they'll blame Obama!" I'm fairly confident I saw that clock in ads before Obama. My question is why did someone build the thing?
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Mar 23, 2015 14:39
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Alter Ego posted:OK, so I just read like the last 200 posts, and Cruz is just the sort of clown I can see the Republicans nominating because unlike the Democrats, Republicans have balls. Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:41
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"The guy who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard is a dumb baby idiot for thinking wrong things about politics  " - an unemployed goon
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Mar 23, 2015 14:43
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Meg From Family Guy posted:"The guy who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard is a dumb baby idiot for thinking wrong things about politics Because having a college degree from an Ivy == not an idiot, guys. Just look at George W. Bush! Seriously, you're not even trying.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:44
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Alter Ego posted:Because having a college degree from an Ivy == not an idiot, guys. Just look at George W. Bush! Is this where someone jumps in and say that GWB wasn't actually stupid, he just played an idiot on TV?
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Mar 23, 2015 14:46
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AsInHowe posted:He has no path to the nomination whatsoever, and will exist largely to sink everyone else. Perfect
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Mar 23, 2015 14:46
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The best part of being an unlikable shitheel and announcing your running for president is when people start dishing all the dirt about you. 
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Mar 23, 2015 14:49
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Alter Ego posted:OK, so I just read like the last 200 posts, and
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Dancer posted:BTW so I saw it in that Ted Cruz video and this is something that's always bugged me. What's the deal with the national debt clock? Did a politician really think at some point "hey it's good publicity if we give all these people (who have no idea how national debt works' the impression that we're irresponsibly spending their money'? During the recession the US could borrow money at effectively negative interest and conservatives were still freaking out about the the debt.
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VanSandman posted:Agreed. I don't know where people are getting the idea that he has a reasonable understanding of his own ability. He pretty clearly loves himself over anything else and probably considers the presidency his destiny more than Mitt ever did. This means that Cruz has nowhere to comfortably fall back to (the Texas Republican Establishment will be out for Cruz's blood in 2018 for all the poo poo he's pulled) and Cruz is staking everything on the presidential run, and will burn down everything if he thinks it will get him what he wants. However: AsInHowe posted:He has no path to the nomination whatsoever, and will exist largely to sink everyone else. fade5 posted:Yeah Cruz is going to be really important even if he doesn't get the nomination, just because he is a Tea Party True Believer and will not hesitate to attack every single other nominee as "not conservative enough".  Strap in motherfuckers cause it's starting!
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Mar 23, 2015 15:02
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Does he actually think he can win, or is this a book deal and tv pundit circuit golden parachute he's going for? He's gotta know he can't win this time around, but he definitely thinks he will be President one day. I reckon he's probably trying to pull a Reagan. Boost his national profile and set himself up as the 2020/2024 Buyers' Remorse candidate for everyone who will be super mad at the eventual losing nominee in 2016, capitalizing on all the inevitable "we lost because we didn't nominate a Real Conservative" fervor. This won't work because the circumstances are super different from Reagan v. Ford and also because the man is no Ronald Reagan, but it's all I can think of. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 15:05
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MC Nietzche posted:Is this where someone jumps in and say that GWB wasn't actually stupid, he just played an idiot on TV? I mean I hate to be put into the position of defending Ted Cruz of all people but you don't graduate cum laude from Princeton and magna cum laude from Harvard Law School with George W. Bush brains. Comparing the two is incredibly dumb.
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Mar 23, 2015 15:16
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Ted Cruz 2016 is a... upside down burning flag.
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Mar 23, 2015 15:22
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MC Nietzche posted:Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed. Ring the bells that still will ring Forget about your perfect offering There is a crack in everything That's how the light gets in. -Which describes the current state of American politics frighteningly well, actually.
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Mar 23, 2015 15:22
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Jrodefeld in the libertarian/AnCap thread shed some light on how libertarians apparently view candidates like Cruz - he recognizes that Cruz will never win, that there will probably never be a hardcore libertarian president, and that a libertarian president couldn't necessarily even change that much without support in Congress, but libertarians are convinced candidates like Cruz "get people talking" about libertarianism, in a way that will set the stage for a mainstream libertarian political movement. As if people don't already know what libertarianism is and find it pretty repulsive.
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Three Olives posted:Ted Cruz 2016 is a... upside down burning flag.
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Mar 23, 2015 15:25
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This announcement is weird
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Meg From Family Guy posted:This announcement is weird So far it's the standard Ted Cruz stump speech. Yes, the story of his father abandoning him until he discovered Jesus is part of his stump speech. eta: the kids who wore their Stand with Rand t-shirts to this are my everything 
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Sub Par posted:I mean I hate to be put into the position of defending Ted Cruz of all people but you don't graduate cum laude from Princeton and magna cum laude from Harvard Law School with George W. Bush brains. Comparing the two is incredibly dumb. I've been saying for a while that I think the the DnD consensus on Cruz underestimates him a lot. I may be wrong, but I think he feeds the base of the Republican party in a way that most of the other names so far don't, except maybe Walker. However, I get the feeling that Cruz would absolutely eat Walker alive in a debate.
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Joementum posted:So far it's the standard Ted Cruz stump speech. where can I watch this?
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:where can I watch this? http://www.c-span.org/video/?324979-1/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-announcement&live
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Mar 23, 2015 15:28
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Ted gave a talk at Liberty University today. 
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Joementum posted:Yes, the story of his father abandoning him until he discovered Jesus is part of his stump speech. Oh god yes he is going to make his father part of his campaign.  His father is absolutely insane, not even the adorable kind, the scary, should be locked up cray cray kind.
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Mar 23, 2015 15:30
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lol saying "100,000 in student loans" as if 100,000 is a lot by today's standards
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Call me crazy but I don't think this guy will become president of the United States
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Sub Par posted:I mean I hate to be put into the position of defending Ted Cruz of all people but you don't graduate cum laude from Princeton and magna cum laude from Harvard Law School with George W. Bush brains. Comparing the two is incredibly dumb. intellect is complicated, though. You can have the kind of brains that make you an overachieving law student and champion debater while still being a dumbshit about comprehending the electorate or making policy, just as someone like G.W.B. can be box-of-rocks dumb about a wide array of things but excel in beating his frat buddies at Drunk Trivia Your Flag is On Fire, the ted cruz story
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Charisma without charisma
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Mar 23, 2015 15:32
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:lol saying "100,000 in student loans" as if 100,000 is a lot by today's standards 100,000 is between 3 and 4 times the national average for student loan debt. Definitely a lot.
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