|
I feel like pretty much the only ridiculously bankable star is Tom Cruise. But that could just be that he's in relatively few films and has his pick of the litter.
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:14
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 2, 2024 23:15 |
|
|
I'll not have you guys disrespect the venerable Fast and Furious franchise
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:35
|
|
|
Daunte Vicknabb posted:I feel like pretty much the only ridiculously bankable star is Tom Cruise. But that could just be that he's in relatively few films and has his pick of the litter.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:38
|
|
|
Daunte Vicknabb posted:I feel like pretty much the only ridiculously bankable star is Tom Cruise. But that could just be that he's in relatively few films and has his pick of the litter. Cruise has been in a string of disappointments since the last Mission Impossible movie. Nothing that outright bombed like Hercules though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:38
|
|
|
and those are disappointments with very low degrees of difficulty. sci-fi action blockbusters edge of tomorrow and oblivion were good
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:39
|
|
|
MassRafTer posted:Cruise has been in a string of disappointments since the last Mission Impossible movie. Nothing that outright bombed like Hercules though. wasn't the other Hercules movie the one that bombed? Rocks did pretty well, I thought
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:43
|
|
|
Rock's Hercules did $243M worldwide on a $100M budget. http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hercules2014.htm At worst it would barely break even when you account for marketing money, but that's not an outright failure.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:47
|
|
|
Bard Maddox posted:wasn't the other Hercules movie the one that bombed? Rocks did pretty well, I thought It didn't come close to making its budget back domestically. It did better overseas but I don't know if it made enough there to break even, I'd suspect not.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:47
|
|
|
Benne posted:Rock's Hercules did $243M worldwide on a $100M budget. but for it to break even when it's projections were much greater make it an out and out disappointment.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:48
|
|
|
Bard Maddox posted:wasn't the other Hercules movie the one that bombed? Rocks did pretty well, I thought the other hercules movie was not even a real movie. Rock's significantly under-performed but they were stupid to give it the budget+marketing that they did since nobody gives a poo poo about Hercules as a property and you knew the movie would be poo poo from the director. Still surely made its money back and then some when you factor in international box office
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:48
|
|
|
Gonzo McFee posted:Aye but what's he been in that's well liked and grossed well? As far as I can tell he's been in some faster and furiousers and not much else that's had much cultural impact. Pain & Gain was pretty big in the US, I believe. And GI Joe 2 did better than anyone expected.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:58
|
|
|
That was more a case of a studio expecting too much out of its film. In a season with loving Guardians of the Galaxy coming, they expected Hercules (With Little Action) to stand tall. If they had tempered expectations even a little bit, it would have been considered a success at least worldwide, if still not domestically.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 18:59
|
|
|
Practically no major films lose money any more 
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:07
|
|
|
Chris James 2 posted:That was more a case of a studio expecting too much out of its film. In a season with loving Guardians of the Galaxy coming, they expected Hercules (With Little Action) to stand tall. If they had tempered expectations even a little bit, it would have been considered a success at least worldwide, if still not domestically. Guardians of the Galaxy wasn't expected to do nearly as well as it did, by anyone.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:08
|
|
|
Great Muta helped Hercules make money overseas. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:10
|
|
|
Gallows' new redneck impression has been stuck on my head for days, I'm finding myself talking like it sometimes... HELL no ma'n
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:14
|
|
|
Daunte Vicknabb posted:I feel like pretty much the only ridiculously bankable star is Tom Cruise. But that could just be that he's in relatively few films and has his pick of the litter. the answer is adam sandler but this is getting increasingly off topic
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:33
|
|
|
OctoberCountry posted:What'd he say? how he doesn't understand why websites feel the need to use clickbait headlines any more, it's not the late 90s (  ), he doesn't need to use sensationalistic headlines for the daily updates because if people are members of the site they're going to read it anyway. i guess he really has no idea how much money he's leaving on the table by not having the observer content presented in a style that isn't just a 20,000 word plain text file every week.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:36
|
|
|
Spermgod posted:how he doesn't understand why websites feel the need to use clickbait headlines any more, it's not the late 90s ( I think I'd take a plain text file over clickbait headlines. "It started as a simple F5, I couldn't believe what happened next..."
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:41
|
|
|
MassRafTer posted:Guardians of the Galaxy wasn't expected to do nearly as well as it did, by anyone. yea Guardians was supposed to be a litmus test for the Marvel Studios baseline for non-major properties and well..... I think Rock is a bigger movie star than he's getting credit for here though. That Hercules movie was poo poo and would have done nothing no matter who starred in it.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:43
|
|
|
8 crazy ways to boost wrestling's popularity. Vince hates it!!!
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:43
|
|
|
"California man receives the RAW rating... you won't believe what happens next"
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:44
|
|
|
Muddy Burphy posted:"California man receives the RAW rating... you won't believe what happens next" One trick this man used to get out of his WWE contract. WWE hates him! spoilers: its MRSA
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:47
|
|
|
The Observer version of clickbait headlines are always great. "World champion injured on house show" a tag team champion pulled a muscle. Granted it'd be better if it were "World champion injured on house show and you wouldn't believe what happened next!"
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:47
|
|
|
"Local Goat Man discovers this one weird trick to getting over."
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 19:47
|
|
|
Burt Buckle posted:I think I'd take a plain text file over clickbait headlines. i don't think anyone wants the wrestling equivalent of buzzfeed but something like voices of wrestling or cagesideseat's layout with clearly delineated articles about different topics would be nice. if you look at how many ostensibly successful sites there are that pretty much just report news from the observer in a more digestible format, you have to conclude they could be a ton bigger than they are if they'd modernise some. i don't really mind the weekly text dump myself though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 20:03
|
|
|
Spermgod posted:i don't think anyone wants the wrestling equivalent of buzzfeed but something like voices of wrestling or cagesideseat's layout with clearly delineated articles about different topics would be nice. I totally get what you're saying, but WO/F4W is kind of like Nintendo in that they will always be behind the curve in tech/online. You can hope and dream of them doing things differently but it's just not going to happen.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 20:06
|
|
|
Spermgod posted:i don't think anyone wants the wrestling equivalent of buzzfeed but something like voices of wrestling or cagesideseat's layout with clearly delineated articles about different topics would be nice. Well part of the reason that format works is they are reposting paid content for free.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 20:07
|
|
|
Luigi Thirty posted:The greatest moments in Bryan Alvarez's life: A few years apart I've once each managed to get both a boston crab and a sharpshooter while rolling and I'm still extremely proud of those occasions
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 20:13
|
|
|
I really want to see the Venn Diagram between "people who listen to Wrestling Observer Live" and "people who use a catheter" because goddamn that ad is loving everywhere
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 20:23
|
|
|
i just wish all that poo poo wasnt before the daily updates.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 20:30
|
|
|
Aesop Poprock posted:A few years apart I've once each managed to get both a boston crab and a sharpshooter while rolling and I'm still extremely proud of those occasions He said his next goal is to reverse something into a Scorpion Death Lock while sparring with Wang.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 20:34
|
|
|
Luigi Thirty posted:He said his next goal is to reverse something into a Scorpion Death Lock while sparring with Wang. The sharpshooter was horrible and probably made the Rock's look awesome and I could only hold it for a few seconds but it still counts
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 20:44
|
|
|
yea ok posted:i just wish all that poo poo wasnt before the daily updates. They tried for a while where it wouldn't show the sales stuff if you were logged in, what happened to that?
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 21:11
|
|
|
laziness
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 21:15
|
|
|
Benne posted:I really want to see the Venn Diagram between "people who listen to Wrestling Observer Live" and "people who use a catheter" because goddamn that ad is loving everywhere Sports radio caters to an old audience.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 21:15
|
|
|
"When Tony Schiavone said that and Eric Bischoff told him to say that, I poo poo my pants and told everyone within earshot, the Titanic has just hit the iceberg, we're going down." 
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 21:21
|
|
|
Spermgod posted:how he doesn't understand why websites feel the need to use clickbait headlines any more, it's not the late 90s ( He knows that the current f4w/WON audience are completely content to read a plaintext file, he has no real reason to change it. His main audience is the hardcore, and the hardcore will take the best no matter what format it is in. Or, that is just how I see it, at least.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 21:38
|
|
|
Doublepost I know, but for anyone interested... JR is on the latest Powerbombcast over on giantbomb (http://www.giantbomb.com/podcasts/powerbombcast-extra-jim-ross-on-wrestling-bay-area/1600-1167/) so if you wanted to listen to the most jaded prowrestling podcast on the planet, here you go. I think it is a free episode too. It is more JR being interviewed for a change, so it might be different to JRs own podcast where he is the one in charge and goes off on rants to his guest. e; yup, so far this seems waaay more directed and with better questions than an average JR podcast, Dan Ryckert immediately gets in with a good question about how first it was every dude writing books in wrestling, then it was podcasts, and now it is live tours Another Person fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Mar 23, 2015 |
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 22:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 2, 2024 23:15 |
|
|
I suppose I will listen to that one. I actually subscribed to giant bomb for the powerbombcast, but they are so infrequent and Jeff is so loving negative on twitter about it, i haven't even listened to one.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2015 22:42
|
|
