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JacquelineDempsey posted:Not a wiki article, just an anecdote for those who like a good creepy story about airplane crashes. I believe it, crabs go gonzo for any kind of carrion.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Not a wiki article, just an anecdote for those who like a good creepy story about airplane crashes. How often does he find guns thrown into a river? Seems like it'd be like looking for a needle in a haystack but I don't know anything about the turbidity of the Hudson.
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# ? Mar 22, 2015 22:09 |
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That crab thing is most likely true. Especially if she had a wound somewhere on her abdomen for them to have entered. Crabs are resilient, and a huge feast of dead things is right up their alley, plus that's how they eat things like dead whales at the bottom of the ocean. They move quick as gently caress too once something gets in the water.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 00:14 |
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I have noticed this thread (this one and all previous incarnations) has a tendency to return to certain topics of the scary and unnerving. I'm absolutely okay with it, because the cycles are usually several months apart and it's always fun to remind people/be reminded that death is always one loving step away at all times. What was I talking about? Oh, right, we're back to talking about airline disasters. Hello, old friend One particularly fun night terror of mine is Ghost Flights. They happen when no one's left to fly the plane, but the plane is either on auto-pilot or on a steady heading, and there's plenty of fuel left to keep 'er up. There's plenty of cases of this in aviation history, and the bulk of them obviously stem from combat missions. Such was the fate of the Lady Be Good, a brand new B-24 Liberator bomber in April 1943. The plane was assigned to the 514th Bomb Squadron, station at a base on the coast of Libya. It was crewed by nine airmen who had arrived in the area only a week or two before. quote:On their first mission together, they would be flying one of the twenty-five B-24s assigned to bomb the harbor of Naples late in the afternoon of April 4. The operation consisted of a two-part attack. A flight of twelve B-24s would go first, followed by a second wave of 13 planes, including the Lady Be Good. After the attack, all planes were expected to return to their bases in North Africa. It could have gone better, it could have gone worse: quote:The plane, which was one of the last to depart, took off from Soluch Field shortly after 3 pm. Almost immediately, high winds and obscured visibility prevented it from joining the main bomber formation, so it continued the mission on its own. Oh, right, there's metric poo poo-tons of unexploded ordinance still just chilling around from WW2. Bonus terror! Anyway, this not being "PYF Mediocre Bombing Run", let's move on to the part where poo poo literally went south: quote:Lady Be Good flew back alone from Italy on its return trip to its home base in Libya. At 12:12 a.m. the pilot, Lt. Hatton, radioed to say his automatic direction finder was not working and asked for a location of base.[1] The plane apparently overflew its base, failing to see the flares fired to attract its attention. It continued into the interior of North Africa for the next two hours. At 2 a.m. the crew parachuted to the ground as the Lady Be Good flew 26 km (16 mi) more with no one aboard. It crash-landed in the Calanshio Sand Sea of the Libyan Desert. A search and rescue mission from Soluch Air Base failed to find anything. With no trace of the crew or aircraft, the incident became known as a mystery. Mysteries don't always last forever, though. "No trace" only lasted for 15 years. The wrecked plane was finally sighted in 1958 and a year later the crash sight was properly explored. From this, they could finally reconstruct what the gently caress exactly happened to the nine men. Finally, we get to the Ghost Flight quote:After the crew abandoned the aircraft, it continued flying southward. The mostly intact wreckage and evidence showing one engine was still operating at the time of impact suggests the aircraft gradually lost altitude in a very shallow descent, reached the flat, open desert floor and landed on its belly. The plane still contained the bulk of the crew's survival gear and rations. The food and water on the plane was remarkably well-preserved by the hot, dry climate. In fact, the plane itself wasn't looking that bad, other than being torn in two by the impact of the crash. As soon as the US Army was able to reach the wreckage (early 1960), it began a formal investigation which led to the discovery of all but one of the crew (it is believed that that man's chute only partially opened and died). This effort post is already running too long, so check out the article if you wish to learn of their final days. Of course, a military plane abandoned because of a split second decision is one thing, but at least it's not, say, a jet piloted by the dead or anything. NEXT EFFORTPOST: A LEARJET PILOTED BY FROZEN CORPSES
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Literally Kermit posted:Of course, a military plane abandoned because of a split second decision is one thing, but at least it's not, say, a jet piloted by the dead or anything. I'm looking forward to this.
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Literally Kermit posted:Lady Be Good A good podcast with an episode about this is Futility Closet. They read some excerpts from the diaries/logs the men kept, which is pretty horrifying.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 14:06 |
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Aircraft crashes are my poo poo, there are tons of channels on youtube with versions of different shows. Air Craft Investigation (its named a lot of different things depending on country) is my favorite. Somehow I'm completely entranced by crashes despite the fact that I have panic attacks so bad before flying that I have to drug myself heavily before each flight to avoid spending the entirety of the flight in stark terror. My interest in the shows came after I was convinced I'd die on every flight. I find the episodes where they land safely really soothing and the episodes where it all goes to poo poo soothing too because they always discuss the measures taken to prevent a crash like that from happening again. The episode about this crash is my favorite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider but I also really suggest the episodes about Aloha Airlines 243 and the one about the plane landing in the Hudson river. There's also a really great documentary about TWA Flight 800 which makes the US investigators involved look really loving sketchy. It comes and goes from Netflix but you can probably find it elsewhere. I'm not really a conspiracy theorist but I definitely believe that that aircraft was shot down by a missile. It even seems likely it was an American missile but regardless of who shot it down, the US definitely covered it up. JibbaJabberwocky has a new favorite as of 15:29 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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I just posted in a Netflix thread and the film I mentioned might be of interest to you lot with your aviation disasters. It's called Charlie Victor Romeo. If you like planes crashing you're fuckin weird, and you'll enjoy it, but this is a film you'll enjoy even if you are normal and hate plane crashes. I say 'enjoy', but that's probably the wrong term. I mean you definitely won't enjoy the experience unless you really are weird but you'll find it hard to take your eyes off it because it's really well done.
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:
Really? What proof is there besides "someone thought they saw an explosion"? Any opinions on the temperature at which steel melts?
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Really? What proof is there besides "someone thought they saw an explosion"? Watch the film, it gives a shed load of reasons, a lot of it from the actual investigators
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:The episode about this crash is my favorite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider but I also really suggest the episodes about Aloha Airlines 243 and the one about the plane landing in the Hudson river. I love the Gimli Glider story because it has a happy ending. It's nice that sometimes those high glide ratios work out the way you'd want them to. I like the US Airways flight 1549 story because holy poo poo. Chesley Sullenberger must be one of the most steel-scroted motherfuckers to ever walk the planet. He's in charge of a crippled 75-ton meteor streaking inexorably toward the earth, and it's like his pulse never even speeds up. "We're gonna be in the Hudson [safely lands 150 people on a goddamn river]."
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Centripetal Horse posted:I like the US Airways flight 1549 story because holy poo poo. Chesley Sullenberger must be one of the most steel-scroted motherfuckers to ever walk the planet. He's in charge of a crippled 75-ton meteor streaking inexorably toward the earth, and it's like his pulse never even speeds up. "We're gonna be in the Hudson [safely lands 150 people on a goddamn river]." I love that the song Real Hero from the Drive soundtrack is about Sullenberger. What a dude.
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Really? What proof is there besides "someone thought they saw an explosion"?
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Keeping up with the theme of aviation disasters, two examples of what happens when air traffic control screws up: The USAir/SkyWest runway incursion quote:With this activity ongoing, another Wings West aircraft, a Metroliner similar to SkyWest 5569, called the tower reporting they were ready for takeoff. The same local controller queried this aircraft about their position, and they told her they were holding on a taxiway short of 24L. The flight progress strip for this flight had not yet been given to the local controller by the clearance delivery controller (another distraction), and the local controller mistakenly thought this taxiway Metroliner was SkyWest 5569 and thus the runway was clear of aircraft. The first officer of the USAir flight recalled hearing this conversation, but did not remember anyone being cleared to hold on the runway. The Uberlingen Mid-Air Collision quote:The only air traffic controller handling the airspace, Peter Nielsen, was working two workstations at the same time. He did not realize the problem in time and thus failed to keep the aircraft at a safe distance from each other. Only less than a minute before the accident did he realize the danger and contacted Flight 2937, instructing the pilot to descend by a thousand feet to avoid collision with crossing traffic (Flight 611). Seconds after the Russian crew initiated the descent, however, their traffic collision avoidance system (TCAS) instructed them to climb, while at about the same time the TCAS on Flight 611 instructed the pilots of that aircraft to descend. quote:Unaware of the TCAS-issued alerts, Nielsen repeated his instruction to Flight 2937 to descend, giving the Tupolev crew incorrect information as to the position of the DHL plane. Maintenance work was being carried out on the main radar system, which meant that the controllers were forced to use a slower system
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One of the very first things posted in the first incarnation of this thread was the Sankebetsu brown bear incident. The worst bear attack in history occurred in 1915 in rural Japan, where a bear, awakened early from hibernation, attacked a settlement in search of food. The chronicle of the settlers' fight with the brown bear is gripping and terrifying, but what I remembered most was a crazy ancillary note years later.quote:Ōkawa Haruyoshi, who was seven years old and the son of the Sankebetsu village mayor at the time of the incident, grew up to become an excellent bear hunter. He swore an oath to kill ten bears for every victim of the attack. By the time he reached the age of 62, he had killed 102 bears. He then retired and constructed the bear harm cenotaph, a shrine where people can pray for the dead villagers. I was so interested in this case that I picked up a book about it, and I've been serializing a translation of it. It's obvious after reading it that the Wikipedia entry is just a summary of the book itself, so there's not really any new information, but it goes into much deeper detail. For instance, the author takes a weird glee in pointing out that, despite what the villagers believe, bears are not afraid of fire. And some of the hunters they've got going after the bear have a real Keystone Cops feel to them: quote:The brown bear suddenly reared its head. Dumbfounded by the sudden appearance of their quarry, all the hunters leveled their rifles at the beast, but only Tani actually fired. Kanako was in the habit of wrapping his trigger in cloth to protect it, which got in the way. And the rest thought that this chase would not go on for long, so they had neglected to needlessly load their rifles.
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Alereon posted:This article has a bit about their stupid conspiracy theories, and Wikipedia has a decent summary too. Honestly now that we have the MH17 shoot-down to compare with it seems bizarre to think TWA800 was shot down by a missile. With MH17 you see the expected shrapnel holes in the fuselage left by the fragmentary warhead, as well as fragments embedded in the bodies of the victims. Nothing like that was ever found with TWA 800. The only thing that could be interpreted as evidence is the inconclusive positive test results for explosive residues, but these were trace results and each test detected a different residue, and any real residues would have been washed off while the debris was submerged, so it seems clear that this was a result of contamination. Evidence contamination and inconclusive results are a problem in any investigation and why it's so important to look at the totality of the evidence for things that either confirm or refute a theory, and not just decide what you want to see. I read the comments. Speaking of air incidents, the survivor accounts of Japan Airlines Flight 123 always make me incredibly unnerved. The short end of the story is that an improper repair years prior caused an explosive decompression when it failed, taking the vertical stabilizer off and severing most of the hydraulics. The pilots tried heroically to maneuver the plane with just the engines, but ended up having to put it into the mountain, killing them and many passengers in the process. The Japanese government refused aid from nearby American forces several times and no one ever stepped forward to take responsibility for this. A USAF Huey crew was overhead literally minutes after the crash, and was told to kindly gently caress off, Japanese rescue forces would handle it. A survivor recounted hearing a helicopter overhead and spotlights, but then hearing it get further away. According to the four survivors eventually found, there were many voices and cries from survivors but because of the delay in rescue, their numbers dwindled. This is supported by autopsies showing people dying of shock, exposure, and injuries that with prior treatment would have been non-fatal. Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 10:13 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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This is getting a little depressing, let's lighten the mood: Hell, I tried. More Ghost Flights tonight.
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# ? Mar 24, 2015 11:49 |
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Impeccable timing for this thread. A Germanwings A320 has gone down over the Alps
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# ? Mar 24, 2015 11:55 |
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Gibfender posted:Impeccable timing for this thread. A Germanwings A320 has gone down over the Alps Guardian live blog covering it if anyone is interested
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Doesn't look like there's gonna be any survivors. Last call from the cockpit was a non-standard "Emergency! Emergency!" so it's possible whatever happened, happened quickly. That's a calling card of a lot of the airline crashes I have been researching. My only response in the face of disasters are jokes in poor taste, so I'll just leave off there.
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# ? Mar 24, 2015 12:58 |
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Literally Kermit posted:Doesn't look like there's gonna be any survivors. The Everest thread has a similar response.
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# ? Mar 24, 2015 13:05 |
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I can't remember enough specifics to turn it up but I read about a crashed World War 2 plane full of unexploded ordnance. It's underwater and in a busy area so no one will risk salvaging it and the government just put up buoys telling people to stay the hell away.
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Alereon posted:Evidence contamination and inconclusive results are a problem in any investigation and why it's so important to look at the totality of the evidence for things that either confirm or refute a theory, and not just decide what you want to see. Just about any conspiracy theory can be explained away by this simple statement.
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MightyJoe36 posted:Just about any conspiracy theory can be explained away by this simple statement. It turns out that, regardless if jet fuel can or cannot melt steel beams, it makes them really really hot, and steel loses much of its strength as it heats up. Also the reason why the Twin Towers looked so much like a controlled collapse wasn't because of secret explosives or anything, it did exactly what it was designed to do, which was pancake downward. The chance of a skyscraper staying intact and just falling over lengthwise, killing far more people, just didn't test well with focus groups, so the architects have to take in worst-case scenarios into consideration.
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Literally Kermit posted:It turns out that, regardless if jet fuel can or cannot melt steel beams, it makes them really really hot, and steel loses much of its strength as it heats up. I've never heard that the WTC architects actually ever considered total building collapse and planned for the "best" way for it to happen. IIRC, the pancaking was an inevitable consequence of the towers' innovative design, which maximized both floor space and height by having the outermost steel frame carry a large portion of the load. Also, in regard to the jet fuel weakening and/or melting the steel, I've seen close-up (zoom-lens) photos of one of the holes made by one of the planes, and the steel surrounding the hole was *glowing* red-hot. Basically everything about 9/11 is scary & unnerving, whether you zoom out to a historical, geo-political perspective, or focus on individual horrors.
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ElwoodCuse posted:I can't remember enough specifics to turn it up but I read about a crashed World War 2 plane full of unexploded ordnance. It's underwater and in a busy area so no one will risk salvaging it and the government just put up buoys telling people to stay the hell away. Probably this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Tybee_Island_mid-air_collision quote:The Tybee Island B-47 crash was an incident on February 5, 1958, in which the United States Air Force lost a 7,600-pound (3,400 kg) Mark 15 nuclear bomb in the waters off Tybee Island near Savannah, Georgia, United States. During a practice exercise, an F-86 fighter plane collided with the B-47 bomber carrying the bomb. To protect the aircrew from a possible detonation in the event of a crash, the bomb was jettisoned. Following several unsuccessful searches, the bomb was presumed lost somewhere in Wassaw Sound off the shores of Tybee Island.
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ElwoodCuse posted:I can't remember enough specifics to turn it up but I read about a crashed World War 2 plane full of unexploded ordnance. It's underwater and in a busy area so no one will risk salvaging it and the government just put up buoys telling people to stay the hell away. There's lots of them. Europe is still littered with bombs from both world wars. Only this week they had to shut the Tower Bridge landmark in London due to a UXB, and the fields in France and Belgium have what's know as 'the iron harvest' where farmers regularly plow up shells, equipment and remains from the old trenches. I can imagine the Pacific Islands near Japan have a similar amount of wrecks.
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ElwoodCuse posted:I can't remember enough specifics to turn it up but I read about a crashed World War 2 plane full of unexploded ordnance. It's underwater and in a busy area so no one will risk salvaging it and the government just put up buoys telling people to stay the hell away. In the thames estuary there is an old WW2 boat filled with explosives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery. quote:The ship was wrecked off the Nore sandbank in the Thames Estuary, near Sheerness in 1944 with around 1,400 tonnes (1,500 short tons) of explosives on board,[1] which continue to be a hazard to the area quote:One of the reasons that the explosives have not been removed was the unfortunate outcome of a similar operation in July 1967 to neutralize the contents of Kielce, a ship of Polish origin, sunk in 1946 off Folkestone in the English Channel. During preliminary work Kielce, containing a comparable amount of ordnance, exploded with force equivalent to an earthquake measuring 4.5 on the Richter scale, digging a 20-foot-deep (6 m) crater in the seabed and bringing "panic and chaos" to Folkestone, although no injuries.[1]
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# ? Mar 25, 2015 00:36 |
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Since the thread's moved away from Wikipedia to "interesting/creepy trivia" (not a bad thing!) I hope it would be alright if i copied some posts in GBS i made on unbuilt buildings.quote:The Beacon was a towering monument intended for the site in Chicago, Illinois of the Columbian Exposition of 1893. Despradelle designed the Beacon to represent the founding of America, and so it consisted of thirteen obelisks which he said represented the original thirteen colonies. The group of obelisks merged to form a single spire soaring 1,500 feet (approximately 457 metres) above Chicago. This is similar to the height of the Sears Tower, built in the city in 1973. quote:The National American Indian Memorial was a proposed monument to American Indians to be erected on a bluff overlooking the Narrows, the main entrance to New York Harbor. The major part of the memorial was to be a 165-foot-tall (50 m) statue of a representative American Indian warrior atop a substantial foundation building housing a museum of native cultures, similar in scale to the Statue of Liberty several miles to the north. Ground was broken to begin construction in 1913 but the project was never completed and no physical trace remains today... quote:In 1963, the Defense Department proposed a solution: the Deep Underground Command Center, or DUCC. quote:In May 1908, Edward T. Carlton, an American hotelier, and William Gibbs McAdoo, the president of the New York and New Jersey Railroad Company, traveled to Spain to meet with the renowned Spanish architect, Antoni Gaudi (1852-1926) studied architecture in Barcelona, where he was surrounded by neo-classical and romantic designs. Gaudi became famous by reinterpreting these designs and working in the Art Nouveau and Art Moderne styles, and Sagrada Familia in Barcelona is considered to be his greatest work. Carlton and McAdoo sought to add a building based on Gaudi’s unique vision to the New York City skyline. He was asked to design a hotel that would be situated in Lower Manhattan. Gaudi designed multiple sketches of an 980 to 1,100 foot high hotel called the Hotel Atraccion (Hotel Attraction). It contained an exhibition hall, conference rooms, a theater, and five dining rooms, symbolizing the five continents. Had the hotel been built, it would have been the tallest building in New York City, and therefore in the United States. Sadly, this building would never be built (except in an alternative version of New York depicted in the television show fringe). Carlton wanted the hotel to serve the City’s wealthiest and most elite clientele. Gaudi’s remained true to his communist ideals, and he abandoned the project. According to another version of the story, Gaudi fell ill in 1909 and that brought about the end of the project. All that survive are conceptual sketches by Juan Matemala. quote:In 1923, the Reverend Christian Reisner of the Methodist Church in Washington Heights conceived of a grand church complex to be located at Broadway and West 173rd Street. Reverend Reisner developed a 40-story church which would have contained a 2,000-seat nave, a five-story basement, a swimming pool, a bowling alley, and would have been topped off with a 75-foot-high rotating cross. John D. Rockefeller Jr. donated $100,000 for the church’s construction. Like the other buildings, the Depression stopped Reverend Reisner from realizing his dreams. New York City Hall proposal quote:John D. Rockefeller Jr. proposed this new civic center which included a space for the Metropolitan Opera. When the stock market crashed the Metropolitan Opera was unable to secure funding for a new building. As a result, Rockefeller redesigned his civic center into the Rockefeller Center we know today "The Fashion Building" quote:This design by Emery Roth for the National Penn Colosseum was never built: lol quote:The Coney Island Globe Tower was conceived of in 1906 as the largest steel structure ever erected. Samuel Friede designed the 700 foot high globe whose 11 floors were to be filled with restaurants, a vaudeville theater, a roller skating rink, a bowling alley, a slot machines, an Aerial Hippodrome, four large circus rings, a ballroom in the world, an observatory, and weather observation station. Public money poured into the project with claims of 100% returns on investments. After two years of almost no construction, the Globe Tower was revealed to be a grand fraud. quote:In 1929, the Metropolitan Life Bldg, comprising the 1893 12-story construction, the 1909 campanile-like tower and the 1919 north annex, was becoming too small to house the continual growing activities of the biggest insurance company. A new building was considered for the full block site between E24th and E25th Streets, designed by Corbett and Waid... which missed to be the highest in the world. The proposed 100-story telescoping tower would have reached a climax in the mountain-like style, with fluted walls, rounded façades, like a compromise between the Irving Trust Bldg and the visionary Hugh Ferriss's drawings. But the 1929 crisis exploded and... was erected only what was previously considered as the base. From a rectangular pedestal rise multiple recessed volumes which have the particularity to become 30-degree angled from the 16th floor on each side of the building, resolving at last in an original dumbell-plan shape from the last setback. As the magnificent Ralph Walker's Irving Trust Bldg, the new Metropolitan Life Annex resembles as a complex structure, covered by a limestone-clad drapery, renouncing to the sacrosanct rigid orthogonal geometry. A brilliant success. quote:Proposed in 1925, the Larkin Building would have contained up to 110 stories at 1,208 ft. and was to be located on West 42nd Street (the McGraw Hill Building currently occupies the site) Sounds reasonable! http://longstreet.typepad.com/thesciencebookstore/2010/02/rootop-airport-east-river-nyc.html quote:First published in Life Magazine 1946: quote:After the victory of America and her “co-belligerents” in the First World War, a temporary victory arch was erected out of wood and plaster to welcome the troops home from Europe. After the arch was dismantled, however, discussions soon arose on how to permanently commemorate the war dead of New York, with a surprising variety of suggestions made. A beautiful water gate for Battery Park was suggested, with a classical arch flanked by Bernini-like curved colonnades, so that a suitable place existed to welcome important dignitaries and visitors to New York. (Little did they know how soon the airlines would replace the ocean lines). Another proposal was for a giant memorial hall located at the site of a shuttered hotel across from Grand Central Terminal, while others suggested a bell tower. Wonder whatever happened to this idea. http://money.cnn.com/1996/08/13/bizbuzz/trump/ quote:Trump plans NYSE tower NYC Federal Reserve Bank Proposal 1969 Grand Central Terminal concept Bonus stupidity. The Monument to Democracy- Port of Los Angeles Two designs for Bank of The Southwest Tower, Houston TX Spring/Peachtree Street Mega-Project , "Just North of the Bank of America Tower"- Atlanta GA quote:Way back in '91, Swedish architect G. Lars Gullstedt announced plans for two 65-story towers, a new park and other amenities surrounding the Biltmore Hotel. It would've been a multi-BILLION dollar project. Mayor Maynard Jackson headed the press conference; it would BEAT Rockefeller Center. By '93, Swedish debtors were calling on loans. Gullstedt didn't have the dough Santiago Calatrava's design for the Atlanta Symphony Center. 1960's Atlanta Baseball Stadium Proposal Tower Place 400- Atlanta GA quote:Circa 2006, real estate tycoon Wayne Mason — whose supposed Midas Touch with residential investments helped transform the pastures of Gwinnett County — got really inspired by then-nascent Atlantic Station. Working with a group of Korean investors, Mason bought up two ailing shopping centers totaling 42 acres near Gwinnett Place Mall in Duluth. He called the vision "Global Station." It promised to reshape the suburban skyline and introduce mixed-use living on a scale never seen in suburban Atlanta. http://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2014/04/04/whatever-happened-to-the-gigantic-global-station.php Lets build a mall at the foot of the WTC, what could go wrong? quote:In 1992 the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, owner of the World Trade Center, commissioned Davis Brody & Associates to develop a master plan for the redevelopment of the Center’s public spaces. The public spaces of the World Trade Center complex included the large open-air plaza plus 500,000 square feet of interior retail and circulation space on four different levels. ISKCON Temple-Planetarium Theater of the Vedic Science and Cosmology (Surprisingly under construction) quote:The Temple of the Vedic Planetarium will be a stunning spritiual monument, dwarfing the already huge Srila Prabhupada Samadhi Mandir and featuring three giant gold domes. The middle, and largest, dome will house three different altars: one for the Gaudiya Vaishnava line of teachers and disciples, ranging from the Six Goswamis of the 15th century all the way to Srila Prabhupada; one for the Pancha-tattva of Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and his associates; and one for Sri-Sri Radha-Madhava and their eight principal gopi servants. Center of India Tower (can't find any English language info) Birmingham Civic Center Part of it was built and still stands today. The Albert Tower, London No idea. The Newton Cenotaph Self Explanatory.
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# ? Mar 25, 2015 00:57 |
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Wow thanks for all that. Will take a bit to take it all in properly but that's a hell of a post and actually in a strange way pretty unnerving and bizarre.
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Nckdictator posted:
Oh, these guys were my neighbors when I was little. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Vrindaban,_West_Virginia quote:It reportedly cost $600,000 in materials, and the labor was donated by the devotees. The unpaid workers were often untrained and learned on the job.
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# ? Mar 25, 2015 01:49 |
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Fuckin' ISKCON. They do do a lot of good stuff for the extremely poor, but they're skeevy as hell about getting you to donate to them. They persuaded my father to donate years ago, and we get cards every year asking us to pledge to them again. At least they send me a birthday card each year in return? (Also if you're in LA or any city with an ISKCON temple really, they serve free lunch on Sundays, so that's pretty handy if you're a poor student.)
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Nckdictator posted:
These look like part of the same proposals - the 'no idea' one looks like a bigger, super goth version of what's the Albert Memorial in Kensington Gardens: The orginal idea for Selfridges on Oxford St was pretty baller too, a massive tower on top of the store:
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# ? Mar 25, 2015 08:35 |
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You can't make a megapost about unbuilt insane structures without mentioning The Palace of the Soviets. Nearly 500 meters of weapons-grade , featuring a bronze Lenin twice as tall as the Statue of Liberty. A photoshop showing how it might've looked in present-day Moscow had it been built:
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# ? Mar 25, 2015 10:09 |
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I had that dream again last night... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkgIjlVsRPE
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# ? Mar 25, 2015 20:35 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_abduction This apparently just happened to a friend of a friend of mine (the last case on this list). Luckily, she survived, although her fetus didn't. quote:Fetal abduction is the kidnapping of an unborn child by forcing a pregnant mother to comply with an early cesarean, and then taking the fetus directly from the mother’s womb. The mother is usually murdered, or does not survive the cesarean process. Depending on the age of the fetus, sometimes the child does not survive either.
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# ? Mar 25, 2015 20:58 |
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showbiz_liz posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_abduction Pack it in, folks. Humanity is done, and it's time for the missiles to fly.
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# ? Mar 25, 2015 21:33 |
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showbiz_liz posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_abduction Here's a long-form piece about one of the first cases. http://articles.latimes.com/1988-04-29/news/vw-2469_1_ray-pierce Pretty dark stuff.
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showbiz_liz posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_abduction This is absolutely horrific, but if there's any silver lining to be found, it's how many of the children end up living through it. It's incredible how resilient even a newborn baby is.
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