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Bacontotem posted:Earth must be viewed has a near desert shithole if sending a baby with a powerlevel of like 6 is viewed as enough. Freeza was probably going to barely make a space-profit off of it. Dragon Ball Minus's explanation was that Bardock and Gine specifically sent Goku off to earth becasue of the low powered inhabitants, Thus he would be safe, they instructed him not to look up at the moon and if everything turned out alright they would come get him. Young Raditz at the time was paired with Vegeta who decided to ignore the summons back to planet Vegeta. So that's how Raditz and Vegeta survived. Not sure how Nappa did. Also not sure why a low ranking warrior like Raditz was sent to accompany the Prince of ALL SAIYANS  I do know there is one SD Dragon Ball chapter that has "What if Vegeta and Raditz came to earth and trained with Young goku a bit."  I really hope there's a translation somewhere... Onmi fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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I think you're all forgetting that Beerus never actually used his full power. Yeah, Vegeta got mad and powered up and surprised Beerus momentarily, but once the shock wore off, Beerus knocked him out with a flick. Vegetto wouldn't last long, because Beerus would know what to expect and would actually use his power. SSG Gogeta, on the other hand, that would an interesting fight.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:03
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The super-deformed style is cute but kinda weird on the adult DBZ characters.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:06
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Onmi posted:I really hope there's a translation somewhere... Is there a higher quality scan somewhere?
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Mar 24, 2015 09:11
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mycot posted:The super-deformed style is cute but kinda weird on the adult DBZ characters. Well that's Kid Goku, see tail? Some Numbers posted:Is there a higher quality scan somewhere? Don't think so, found it here http://dragonblogz.com/special-dragon-ball-sd-chapter-young-goku-vegeta-and-raditz/
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Mar 24, 2015 09:15
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Some Numbers posted:I think you're all forgetting that Beerus never actually used his full power. Yeah, Vegeta got mad and powered up and surprised Beerus momentarily, but once the shock wore off, Beerus knocked him out with a flick. SSG Gogeta would last like 10 seconds before the fusion ran out.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:16
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Onmi posted:Don't think so, found it here drat, it's not quite big enough for me to make out all of the text.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:24
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Pureauthor posted:SSG Gogeta would last like 10 seconds before the fusion ran out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsTqRlIRiYk 10 seconds is all he needs...
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Mar 24, 2015 09:26
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Pureauthor posted:SSG Gogeta would last like 10 seconds before the fusion ran out. My favorite character was Gogeta. I'm still hoping to see something bigger from it.
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Mar 24, 2015 09:32
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In It For The Tank posted:I'm just saying that "real" Vegetto would obliterate Beerus. Hahaha, what the gently caress. Beerus is based on Toriyama's sick cat, no it can't be killed by a cartoon character, no matter how "real" it is. That's sort of the point about Battle of Gods, there are opponents out there, where no matter how sick nasty you are at punching poo poo, you just cannot punch hard enough. That is why Vegeta was able to punch Beerus, it wasn't because he had raw power, he had a purpose that exceeded Beerus'. If you were to give a powerlevel to Beerus, it'd be an infinite 0. That's the point. Immeasurable by their standards.
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mycot posted:The super-deformed style is cute but kinda weird on the adult DBZ characters. It's really lazy, they're supposed to be kids but the author (no, it's not Toriyama) just takes their adult designs and makes their heads huge to show they are children (which only makes it more confusing since adults also have bigger heads than normal). The kid versions of 17 and 18 are also exactly the same, even same clothes. 
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Mar 24, 2015 09:58
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Mordaedil posted:Hahaha, what the gently caress. Beerus is based on Toriyama's sick cat, no it can't be killed by a cartoon character, no matter how "real" it is. Or in short, it's the same as the 21st World Martial Arts Tournament with Jackie Chun, to remind them all that there is ALWAYS someone stronger, something higher, a level they haven't reached.
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It's like Jiro Dreams of Sushi but with punching instead of delicious food.Petiso posted:It's really lazy, they're supposed to be kids but the author (no, it's not Toriyama) just takes their adult designs and makes their heads huge to show they are children (which only makes it more confusing since adults also have bigger heads than normal). The kid versions of 17 and 18 are also exactly the same, even same clothes. The implication is that 18 just likes bald things right?
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Onmi posted:Or in short, it's the same as the 21st World Martial Arts Tournament with Jackie Chun, to remind them all that there is ALWAYS someone stronger, something higher, a level they haven't reached. Yes, though I have a hard time imagining why there's be a reason for Toriyama to write it so that Beerus would somehow end up weaker than Goku or Vegeta, though he might offer them the positions as new Gods, which is what I think the purpose of the training is.
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Mordaedil posted:Yes, though I have a hard time imagining why there's be a reason for Toriyama to write it so that Beerus would somehow end up weaker than Goku or Vegeta, though he might offer them the positions as new Gods, which is what I think the purpose of the training is. Well from the look of it, Whis is training them, Beerus is just sleeping, Beerus would want them trained so he has someone to fight against honestly.
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So basically the rationale behind Beerus being immune to Mortal ki is that mortals can't sense god ki and Beerus shrugs off a ki attack like every other DBZ antagonist does at one point or another?
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-Fish- posted:So basically the rationale behind Beerus being immune to Mortal ki is that mortals can't sense god ki and Beerus shrugs off a ki attack like every other DBZ antagonist does at one point or another? Basically, he never actually says he's immune to mortal Ki, Goku just says "I can't sense his energy" and King Kai scolds him for thinking he could sense a God. And he no sells Galick Gun and the Kamehameha, which says more about Beerus than it does about his immunity.
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Mordaedil posted:Hahaha, what the gently caress. Beerus is based on Toriyama's sick cat, no it can't be killed by a cartoon character, no matter how "real" it is. For what it's worth, when I said "real" I meant "real" as in the canon Vegetto from the Buu Saga and not a potentially nerfed version for BoG (see: not-quite-Mystic Gohan). Not "real" as in "real-life".
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In It For The Tank posted:For what it's worth, when I said "real" I meant "real" as in the canon Vegetto from the Buu Saga and not a potentially nerfed version for BoG (see: not-quite-Mystic Gohan). Not "real" as in "real-life". Still, even canon Vegetto was just able to no sell Super Buuhan. Beerus defeated Buu and Mystic Gohan in the same attack. Vegeta only caught him by surprise for a moment and then was immediately defeated. Super Sayian 3 Goku was defeated in a single strike as well. "Canon" Veggeto would last longer, but, ultimately, Beerus would win. To be honest, considering how strong he is and how he was only using like 3/4 of his power against SSG Goku, I really doubt any of the Z-Warriors -- no matter what ridiculous combo or transformation they take -- could beat him at 100%. Even SSG Gogeta (which is impossible due to the rules of fusion) would likely defuse before he was able to land the killing blow....assuming he was strong enough to do so.
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Why is SSG Gogeta impossible? Acknowledging the limited fusion time, that's not something impossible, just a super strict time limit that means it probably wouldn't win, but the event itself isn't impossible.
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Stallion Cabana posted:Why is SSG Gogeta impossible? Acknowledging the limited fusion time, that's not something impossible, just a super strict time limit that means it probably wouldn't win, but the event itself isn't impossible. SSG itself had a super-short time limit. That is one of its stated weaknesses. Fusion has a short time limit made shorter by using high-powered forms. It's not impossible it could happen but would probably last like 5 seconds.
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ImpAtom posted:SSG itself had a super-short time limit. That is one of its stated weaknesses. Fusion has a short time limit made shorter by using high-powered forms. It's not impossible it could happen but would probably last like 5 seconds. that's what I mean, yeah. It wouldn't last very long at all but it could probably happen.
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Just need to learn a speed Fusion technique and jump in and out of it! ...  That actually sounds like something i'd come to expect from Dragonball. A new hero/villain that frequently fuses/unfuses as the opportunity arises and advantages can be gained.Im sure we can come up with a food pun too, what can become two or be combined into one with no loss? Mashed Potatoes? Mas and Toe? 
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A post-BoG Vegetto would be some serious poo poo anyway because you're taking SSG-level Goku as part of the base.
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ImpAtom posted:SSG itself had a super-short time limit. That is one of its stated weaknesses. Fusion has a short time limit made shorter by using high-powered forms. It's not impossible it could happen but would probably last like 5 seconds. And in Dragon Ball Z world, they'll need that 5 seconds in order to taunt their opponent about how powerful they have become
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ImpAtom posted:SSG itself had a super-short time limit. That is one of its stated weaknesses. Fusion has a short time limit made shorter by using high-powered forms. It's not impossible it could happen but would probably last like 5 seconds. Did SSG really have a short time limit? Beerus explained that Goku basically assimilated the power-up, for all we know he could have held it as long as Super Saiyan otherwise.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Did SSG really have a short time limit? Beerus explained that Goku basically assimilated the power-up, for all we know he could have held it as long as Super Saiyan otherwise. The God form itself ran out after a few minutes, but Goku's body 'learned' from the experience and he retained a chunk of that power.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Did SSG really have a short time limit? Beerus explained that Goku basically assimilated the power-up, for all we know he could have held it as long as Super Saiyan otherwise. Yes. The legendary SSG failed because he ran out of power and Goku's form vanished midway through the battle. Beerus even told him he wasn't one anymore.
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Do you think Goku realizes his hair turns yellow when he goes Super?
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In It For The Tank posted:For what it's worth, when I said "real" I meant "real" as in the canon Vegetto from the Buu Saga and not a potentially nerfed version for BoG (see: not-quite-Mystic Gohan). Not "real" as in "real-life". What I like about these conversations is the idea that Vegito would have a static power level, and not just be, you know, the fusion of Goku and Vegeta's current strength. So if a really angry Vegeta can at least draw blood, then it only follows that Vegito would be able to as well. He wouldn't be able to win an actual full-on fight, probably, but at least he'd get Beerus interested without having to go SSG. And if he went SSG, well.
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ImpAtom posted:Yes. The legendary SSG failed because he ran out of power and Goku's form vanished midway through the battle. Beerus even told him he wasn't one anymore. Yeah but he also tells Goku he's still fighting at the same level. Either way, if the same thing happens with Vegeta they wouldn't need SSG Gogeta because SSG would only be a marginal boost anyway.
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Super Sayian God felt less like its own transformation and more like it just broke Goku's level cap.
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Something from the Official Revival of [F] blog (http://ameblo.jp/dragonball2015):Translation from Kanzenshuu posted:Bulma: Hey, Bulma here! Oh Piccolo. 
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Yeah but he also tells Goku he's still fighting at the same level. Either way, if the same thing happens with Vegeta they wouldn't need SSG Gogeta because SSG would only be a marginal boost anyway. He says that Goku retained SOME of the power, not that he's still fighting on the same level as a full-on God.
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I'd joke that of course Goku doesn't care about his granddaughter, but he actually spends time training with her in the epilogue so. Though you gotta wonder about a guy who considers martial arts an appropriate way to bond with his something like four year old daughter.
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StrifeHira posted:Something from the Official Revival of [F] blog (http://ameblo.jp/dragonball2015): If we get these new movies ever get the point where Pan is able to actually fight people, I totally want her using the Special Beam Cannon.
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BlitzBlast posted:I'd joke that of course Goku doesn't care about his granddaughter, but he actually spends time training with her in the epilogue so. Gohan was fighting saiyans at 4
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Hey, Pan. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE
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Hey Pan, wanna go drive cars again?
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Grandpa Piccolo
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