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Dead Reckoning posted:Also... AF JAGs have a lot of issues. Prosecution decisions are made by aircrew wing commanders, and defense has the deck stacked against them from day 1. Yeah that's something that the two guys I know would talk about...if you get a decent WG/CC/other boss who respects your opinion as a legal expert, then things aren't too bad. On the other hand...
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:Good. loving. Luck. I appreciate the brutal honesty. I have internships from a couple well known DA's offices under my belt and was scheduled to deploy for the Peace Corps until they withdrew all operations from the host country I was going to just months beforehand, sending me back into the rotation... That's when I started considering the Navy. Honestly if I don't make JAG it wouldn't be the end of the world for me. But are there ANY incentives I could negotiate for before commissioning? Or would I be better off making minimum wage until the Peace Corps finds another country for me in 9-12 months.
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speshl guy posted:That's when I started considering the Navy. Honestly if I don't make JAG it wouldn't be the end of the world for me. But are there ANY incentives I could negotiate for before commissioning? Or would I be better off making minimum wage until the Peace Corps finds another country for me in 9-12 months. I'd say send a PM to ActusRhesus, or post in the Legal Thread here in GIP if you don't have PMs, you'd get the best answer there.
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speshl guy posted:I appreciate the brutal honesty. I have internships from a couple well known DA's offices under my belt and was scheduled to deploy for the Peace Corps until they withdrew all operations from the host country I was going to just months beforehand, sending me back into the rotation... If you really want to be a JAG, you should commission first and then apply later. It's nearly impossible to get a JAG slot at OCI and the recruiters don't even show up to most schools because they don't have slots to fill. I knew a guy who went to law school that did his undergrad at the Air Force Academy. They paid him to be a student and I don't think he had to report anywhere for like 3 years. Maybe do some summers on a base, but he was an officer so he probably was given pretty legitimate JAG work. I mean, the military has the most unqualified paralegals you can possibly find, so giving work to an officer is probably a huge success for a JAG dude.
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So I have a friend who has just passed his boards at medical school, and is graduating in July who wants to become a medical officer. However, because he graduates in July, he missed his chance for residency, and is now potentially waiting a year. Is this a detriment to possible service?
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Ryand-Smith posted:So I have a friend who has just passed his boards at medical school, and is graduating in July who wants to become a medical officer. However, because he graduates in July, he missed his chance for residency, and is now potentially waiting a year. Is this a detriment to possible service? I think they were offering 258k bonuses(Army) last year for Psychiatrists, but that went away last year. He just needs to finish his residency and they will probably take him right off the bat. MDs are hard to come by, with a lot of roles filled by PA/NPs. The recruiting process is very fast though.
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Ryand-Smith posted:So I have a friend who has just passed his boards at medical school, and is graduating in July who wants to become a medical officer. However, because he graduates in July, he missed his chance for residency, and is now potentially waiting a year. Is this a detriment to possible service? That's very strange. The US military won't take him as a physician until he has finished his intern year of residency since he didn't go through one of the military's physician accessioning programs. It's possible, but unlikely, that he can enter the military as a non-physician medical officer on casual or reserve status until he starts a residency program. How did he wind up graduating in July? That's unusual for US medical schools and without knowing more information, might be a red flag for military service, even as a physician.
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I'm 34 years old. I was an enlisted infantry Marine from 2004-2008. I now have a very comfortable life, and a friend of mine has it in his head to want to join the national guard at age 27. He wants to serve his country and I'm trying to explain to him the importance of going officer based on my active duty experience, but he's not hearing me out. Maybe the guard is different, I just don't know much about it. Is the national guard a totally different animal, or should I continue to push him to be an officer? He is dead set on infantry, lol.
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What a dumb gently caress. National Guard infantry is literally the worst job in the military. "I want to put my life at risk and be cool, but I don't want to spend a bunch of time training properly or at all really." Either go all in or don't do it all. Your loving life is at stake. I don't know what you could do beyond punching him in the face. Joining the National Guard at any MOS where you could end up firing a weapon in anger is beyond stupid, and when you're in a convoy with a bunch of guys who got the vast majority of their combat training in basic and you're completely in over your head, it's too late to realize it. There ain't poo poo left to do except pray. It's crazy irresponsible that they even have National Guard infantry.
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He sounds really dumb and you should let him pursue his dream of being a full fledged idiot and a barely trained bullet magnet like volker said.
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I still don't understand why the National Guard goes overseas. Do we literally use them as human shields for the real Infantry guys?
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UoI posted:I still don't understand why the National Guard goes overseas. Do we literally use them as human shields for the real Infantry guys? For most MOS's that don't leave the wire, they can pick things up quick enough in country without putting themselves or others at risk. I believe NG infantry are supposed to mostly do guard duty and basic poo poo like that, but in Iraq, they were out doing patrols and providing security for convoys. A friend of mine was a National Guard cav scout who got tasked with poo poo like that and came back with PTSD, and he didn't even know stacked rocks are Bad, which means he wasn't taught a goddamn thing about IED's, because that's like, 101. I was in a mounted heavy weapons company for a couple years, and when I talked with him trying to sort out what he'd learned and what he hadn't, I was appalled. At our unit, we'd have new guys with us for a year training 5 days a week, and while we didn't think we were getting thrown to the wolves or anything, it still felt rushed, like it was far from ideal. After talking to him, I got some perspective real quick. Don't half rear end being combat arms, people.
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UoI posted:I still don't understand why the National Guard goes overseas. Do we literally use them as human shields for the real Infantry guys? Because it's been changed from a militia-based organization into another branch of the military, just as eligible to deploy as the active duty. When they're not deployed, it's cheaper this way. The Total Force concept was nothing more than attempt to save money.
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Volkerball posted:For most MOS's that don't leave the wire, they can pick things up quick enough in country without putting themselves or others at risk. I believe NG infantry are supposed to mostly do guard duty and basic poo poo like that, but in Iraq, they were out doing patrols and providing security for convoys. A friend of mine was a National Guard cav scout who got tasked with poo poo like that and came back with PTSD, and he didn't even know stacked rocks are Bad, which means he wasn't taught a goddamn thing about IED's, because that's like, 101. I was in a mounted heavy weapons company for a couple years, and when I talked with him trying to sort out what he'd learned and what he hadn't, I was appalled. At our unit, we'd have new guys with us for a year training 5 days a week, and while we didn't think we were getting thrown to the wolves or anything, it still felt rushed, like it was far from ideal. After talking to him, I got some perspective real quick. Don't half rear end being combat arms, people. Godholio posted:Because it's been changed from a militia-based organization into another branch of the military, just as eligible to deploy as the active duty. When they're not deployed, it's cheaper this way. The Total Force concept was nothing more than attempt to save money. Well as long as we're saving money.
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National Guard casualties during my first deployment were their own drat fault in most cases. Hmmm this car is speeding towards the convoy...Does the gunner open up on it? No he dies like a dumbass.
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So what I'm getting from the flowchart at the start of this thread is that if you're in college you shouldn't join ROTC/the military. Can I have a detailed reasoning for this? I've been looking into ROTC because: 1. My parents and grandparents were in the military 2. I'd like to travel the world a bit. 3. I can get my undergraduate paid for. 4. Looking for some structure/direction in my life. 5. I want a use for the Japanese I'm learning and believe it could be utilized in the military. I'm not sure why I shouldn't try— anyone willing to give me a cold slap of reality? (Extra context: I'm going for an Economics degree, but I figure this won't really matter in the grand scheme of it all.)
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The Unholy Ghost posted:So what I'm getting from the flowchart at the start of this thread is that if you're in college you shouldn't join ROTC/the military. Can I have a detailed reasoning for this? I've been looking into ROTC because: The flowchart is about not enlisting with a degree. Enlisting means you go to the recruiter, sign on the line to be a hardcore 92A Automated Logistical Specialist, go through boot camp, and become Private Fuckstain, Latrine Cleaning Warrior. If you have or can get a college degree and want to join the military, you should go for a commission. This means going through ROTC or OCS and becoming 2LT Fuckstain, in charge of many Privates Fuckstain and making more money.
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Stultus Maximus posted:The flowchart is about not enlisting with a degree. Whoa, whoa. Hold on. It's Specialist Fuckstain, Latrine Cleaning Warrior.
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Aranan posted:Whoa, whoa. Hold on.
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Aranan posted:Whoa, whoa. Hold on. ...and as a 35T it will never go any further. Enjoy.
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The Unholy Ghost posted:So what I'm getting from the flowchart at the start of this thread is that if you're in college you shouldn't join ROTC/the military. Can I have a detailed reasoning for this? I've been looking into ROTC because: 1. This is a really loving dumb reason to join the military. You're not lieutenant Dan, idiot. 2. I suppose that's fair enough, but there's a good chance that even if you travel, you'll get corralled into some really stupid poo poo like liberty buddies. or some retard E2 is going to ruin your fun time out so you can't buy pre-soiled panties in Akibahara or whatever it is you want to do you loving fruit. 3. Ok. 4. Read some self improvement books or something, I dunno. The only structure you'll get from the military is an unhealthy level of cynicism and direction will be down. 5. lmao Anyway, do Marine ROTC. Slay dragons. e: 1a. Trying to fulfill some family legacy or something is only a cunthair higher on the list of stupid reasons to join the mil than uh ... well, a girl I guess. Unless it's going to lead to you running for senate or something.
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SumYungGui posted:...and as a 35T it will never go any further. Enjoy. Not true! My squad leader was only a SPC for 5 years before picking up E5. We can totally become NCOs* *Nope
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The Unholy Ghost posted:So what I'm getting from the flowchart at the start of this thread is that if you're in college you shouldn't join ROTC/the military. Can I have a detailed reasoning for this? I've been looking into ROTC because: There are worse things in life than ROTC. Getting your degree and paying back the four years you owe uncle sam as an officer is better than a lot of us did when we paid up front for the G.I. Bill as dumb rear end poo poo stain Privates.
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And if you are set on becoming an officer ROTC is the way to go because: lol at going to the academy (any academy) OTS/OCS is basically impossible to get into for all the services. Plus you have to have your degree prior to applying, so the whole "getting your degree paid for" doesn't happen. So for commissioning options that allow you to get your degree paid for up front while in college, your options are ROTC or the Academy and like I said, lol at doing the Academy. It's way better to do normal college while playing military for a couple of hours a week than do super retarded 24/7 military at one of the academies. e: I can't comment on the wisdom of becoming an officer in the first place because that's really dependent on the service you're joining, what you would like (not guaranteed) to do, your life situation, how much you need the college money, etc. But if you are going to become an officer, ROTC is the way to go.
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The Unholy Ghost posted:So what I'm getting from the flowchart at the start of this thread is that if you're in college you shouldn't join ROTC/the military. Can I have a detailed reasoning for this? I've been looking into ROTC because: Don't become a surface warfare officer in the Navy. I hear they're mostly miserable.
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How do military medical residencies work? If I have an MD from foreign medical school that is US accredited is there a way for me to get a PGY-1 spot in the military? If yes, how?
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Safety Scissors posted:How do military medical residencies work? If I have an MD from foreign medical school that is US accredited is there a way for me to get a PGY-1 spot in the military? If yes, how? Where are you in your medical education right now?
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Axolotl posted:Military residencies are for people who have a military service obligation through the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences (USUHS), the Armed Forces Health Professions Scholarship Program (HPSP), ROTC, or attendance at a service academy. If those don't apply to you, I don't think that you can apply for a military residency position. I graduated about a year ago.
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Safety Scissors posted:I graduated about a year ago. You could try getting a hold of a medical officer recruiter for whichever military branch you would be looking into. Only a medical officer recruiter. They might be able to help you with specifics on programs or options that might be available to you. However, based on what I know about the military and physician accessions, you fall into a kind of "donut hole" in terms of being accepted into the military. You have a medical degree, so you don't fit into their medical education programs that bring doctors in by paying for their education. Unfortunately, you do not have the minimum one year of residency training required to enter the military and work as a physician. It might be possible, but unlikely, to enter the military as a general, non-physician, medical officer like a medical administrator in order to get in the system and possibly apply for the military residency match that way. I wouldn't hold my breath, however.
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Turns out that it is possible to apply to the Military Match as a civilian. Your best bet is with the Army, which has the most GME positions of the armed services. If you are accepted for a military residency, you would have to commission as an officer and would incur a post-residency service obligation for as many years as your residency. I think it is pretty rare for the military to accept civilian applicants for military residencies, though apparently it does happen sometimes.
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One could spend 10 years bouncing from base to base all over the world or stuck at one in Montana. It's all luck. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking otherwise.
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Veteran here, haven't really kept up with GiP since I got out/divorced/happy but I have a question that someone here probably can help with. I know a guy who is a super talented sax player, plays in traveling jazz etc bands in the Midwest. He's an incredibly intelligent and driven kid, 20 years old and a couple years into a BS in biochem or ChemE or something at Minnesota, along with a music minor I think. Anyways, apparently he's tried out for/auditioned/been offered something by the "military marching band" and since I'm a vet, his mom came running to me to know if it's a good idea. My knee jerk reaction is gently caress NO but is this one of those exceptions to the rule? Or is it more specifically dependent on his "offer" or situation specifically?
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Dude is nearly done with a BS in biochem or chemical engineering? Yea stay the gently caress away from the military.
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Dropping out halfway into a STEM program to enlist in the band is a Bad Idea.
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Re: No poo poo. Yeah basically what I assumed, plus he's actually intelligent and kind of an independent thinker which would throw up a red flag for me automatically. Just wanted to make sure that the whole army/whatever band isn't some golden ticket to pussy and fat stacks or w/e.
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At any rank, he'd be making the same cash as anyone else really. Maybe more in per diem, but no. He's not missing out on anything.
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