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Ddraig posted:I thought it was pretty obvious that the whole Midnight Animal thing is a dramatization of Jacket's actual murder spree. I guess the director pieced together details from the actual case (i.e. he used a mask, got weird phone calls, had a girl involved and all that other stuff) and made a dramatic retelling of it that they get a bit too involved with. Yeah, even down to the blonde-haired woman that Jacket carries away, but of course since it's an Edgy Slasher Movie he doesn't just carry her away he rapes her on the spot. The police station rampage is a jailbreak, with an added Supercop SWAT Guy to make it more intense. But I really do get the feeling that they had written or even coded a lot more for the actor, and then just cut it for the game and stuck it onto the beginning. The whole game feels like they had at least six vastly different ideas for how to do a sequel and then just did them all, and cut their ideas for each down to just the barebones structures. But apart from Martin and Beard, the rest of the stories at least directly (or indirectly) intersect. You could take Beard's story or Martin's and make two totally self-contained stories out of them. That being said, I can't wait to do exactly that when the level editor comes out, and see what other people come up with. quote:The interesting thing about this is that if it is a retelling of Jacket's crime, done up, then the police station thing sort of indicates that maybe some of the post trauma levels weren't actually just a coma dream? I was pretty positive that everything that happens after Trauma actually happens. Jacket goes on to kill a bunch of cops and that other 50 Blessings killer, then takes out a bunch more Russian Mafia guys finally ending with the Boss. The cops are storming the penthouse just as Jacket's on the balcony smoking a cigarette and looking at the Polaroid. That's why the Son is the new head of the Russian Mafia in the second game, all that stuff actually happened, the cops got Jacket and put him on trial, etc. King Vidiot fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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Ddraig posted:e: The interesting thing about this is that if it is a retelling of Jacket's crime, done up, then the police station thing sort of indicates that maybe some of the post trauma levels weren't actually just a coma dream? Yeah, the stuff from trauma on happens unambiguously as presented.
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I think Martin's levels are mainly there to give a brief 'Previously on..' segment. Obviously it's completely embellished and 'sexed up' but most of the salient facts on what happened in Hotline Miami are there, I guess.
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Lacedaemonius posted:It's 'magazine', and that's false. lol did you really do this?
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Mar 25, 2015 03:35
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I remember there was going to be a film made about Armin Mewes (or at least based on it) that he took issue with because the case was ongoing and they got some of the facts wrong. I like to imagine Jacket doing something similar with his portrayal in Midnight Animal.
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Mar 25, 2015 03:38
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Wait, when do we see Tony get killed?
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Wait, when do we see Tony get killed? Pardo murders him while he's trying to surrender at the end of Death Wish, I think.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Wait, when do we see Tony get killed? He's the guy being tortured in 'Tension'.
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Mar 25, 2015 04:42
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Manny, Evan, the Fans and Martin all seem to show the effects that Jacket's rampage had on society. Martin in particular only really exists to show how mass media revels in violence while also embellishing events to the point that the barely resemble reality. Think of all those "based on a true story" films about serial killers or how every fictional murderers are based on Ed Gein.
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Mar 25, 2015 04:49
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Apart from 'The Abyss' are there any other secret areas in the game?
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Mar 25, 2015 04:51
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Is it just me or is targeting messed up on the Vita version? I can't lock on for poo poo.
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Mar 25, 2015 04:55
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The Genocide achievement (50,000 kills) is so ridiculous to unlock without letting the game run overnight with an auto-clicker, I'm betting that when the level creator comes out a lot of levels are just going to be built around getting tons of kills as quickly as possible so you can grind it out.
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Sleeveless posted:The Genocide achievement (50,000 kills) is so ridiculous to unlock without letting the game run overnight with an auto-clicker, I'm betting that when the level creator comes out a lot of levels are just going to be built around getting tons of kills as quickly as possible so you can grind it out. Reminds me a lot of the 'Zombie Genocider' achievement in Dead Rising, but much worse.
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Mar 25, 2015 05:04
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I went through Normal and Hard and got about 10k from all the gently caress-ups that occurred, plus all the kills I've been getting from shooting for A+ on every scene. It's not that out there, but I see how it'd get annoying fast.
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Mar 25, 2015 05:07
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For reference, short of hacking the game or downloading a savegame right now the most sane way to get it is to glitch the respawn system so you respawn with a gun in your hands in a position where you're locked in a continuous cycle of shooting and dying.
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Pretty sure you end killing at least 5000 dudes just by playing the game normally. If editor kills count, you'd rack it up pretty quickly. What is this idiocy where people want endgame cheevos with as little thinking as possible? If a game has 50 enemies and gives you a trinket for 50 kills, you don't kill the first dude and restart 50 times, you just play the game normally and get the reward that way. Focusing on one task at a time is understandable but when it turns everything into a bizarre grind, it's time to put the controller down. quakster fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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Beekeeping and You posted:Pardo murders him while he's trying to surrender at the end of Death Wish, I think. Detective Pardo shot a dangerous criminal, and it's only a pity we don't have more brave officers with movie star good looks like him.
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RandallODim posted:Detective Pardo shot a dangerous criminal, and it's only a pity we don't have more brave officers with movie star good looks like him. Agree
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 I know it's wrong to like memes, but god drat if posting about how great detective Pardo is and how scary the Miami Mutilator is doesn't make me smile.
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quakster posted:Pretty sure you end killing at least 5000 dudes just by playing the game normally. If editor kills count, you'd rack it up pretty quickly. The achievement isn't for 5,000, it's for 50,000. I 100%'d the game and according to Steam almost twice as many people have managed to get an A+ in every level as have killed 50,000 enemies. (0.67% of players vs. 0.36% of players, respectively) It's something that was obviously intentionally designed to be difficult to get and require a huge investment of time.
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Well if just anybody could do it through normal play, it wouldn't be an achievement would it? 
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King Vidiot posted:Well if just anybody could do it through normal play, it wouldn't be an achievement would it? Explain Karma then.
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It's a reverse achievement - see how many people don't have it unlocked but have game completion/hard mode clear/etc. unlocked. (Granted SAM sort of invalidates that)
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Anatharon posted:I don't feel like run is very hlm1-ish. not saying it is, just saying it was as much of an unexpected disorienting surprise as most of hotline 1 was
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Does hard mode have any differences in the story or is it just inverted levels?
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Aside from the new intro, no, nothing else changes story-wise.
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How does hard mode unlock? I finished the game and have As and Bs on most stages but whenever I try starting a new game from the menu I don't get any option, it just starts normal mode again. Krime posted:Is it just me or is targeting messed up on the Vita version? Are you using the touchscreen or the square button? I found that touch screen targeting didn't work properly on the left side of the screen while being perfectly fine elsewhere. Since my Vita's touchscreen is perfectly functional elsewhere, I'll just assume a sloppy port job.
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Master of Stealth posted:How does hard mode unlock? I finished the game and have As and Bs on most stages but whenever I try starting a new game from the menu I don't get any option, it just starts normal mode again. Touch pad. Beat Apocalypse and press square on the continue menu to toggle difficulty.
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Sleeveless posted:For reference, short of hacking the game or downloading a savegame right now the most sane way to get it is to glitch the respawn system so you respawn with a gun in your hands in a position where you're locked in a continuous cycle of shooting and dying. What's the point of cheating for Steam achievements?
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Prestige.
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Put that on my tombstone; the one no one will read when the nukes go off.
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So is there any reason for me to continue past the first soldier level, Ambush? Been playing the game in dribs and drabs since it released, in one hour chunks lest I start breaking poo poo at the difficulty. And I know these soldier levels get worse, but christ. This is so totally unfun it boggles the mind. Particularly loved finally getting to the last screen, and finally arranging it so there are two enemies left in the stage. But apparently when you run out of bullets, your character automatically reloads and there's no way to switch to the knife. Because gently caress you, that's why.
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Narcissus1916 posted:So is there any reason for me to continue past the first soldier level, Ambush? Been playing the game in dribs and drabs since it released, in one hour chunks lest I start breaking poo poo at the difficulty. It doesn't do that. If you run out of ammo you have to actually manually go get more from an ammo box, even.
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Narcissus1916 posted:So is there any reason for me to continue past the first soldier level, Ambush? Been playing the game in dribs and drabs since it released, in one hour chunks lest I start breaking poo poo at the difficulty. Stop playing games when they become unfun I suppose. You're not even halfway through the game.
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He automatically reloads (with the shotgun) whenever the round or clip is finished but there's more in reserve. I'm aware that I can restock in the ammo boxes. Also, I am apparently missing a mask with the fans. Just started the tenth scene and I have the bear mask and tony, but am missing the swans (the twins, according to a guide). Is this normal?
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Narcissus1916 posted:So is there any reason for me to continue past the first soldier level, Ambush? Been playing the game in dribs and drabs since it released, in one hour chunks lest I start breaking poo poo at the difficulty. Actually they get better, that's the messed up part. Stop reading other retard's opinions on games and form one for yourself.
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TheJoker138 posted:It doesn't do that. If you run out of ammo you have to actually manually go get more from an ammo box, even. Yeah it does, when you first get your weapon you have more than one clip and will reload when empty. It's only when you're empty that you start picking up single clips at a time from ammo boxes and never reload. My big question is how anyone could get to the final screen of a Soldier level without firing off all their starting clips 
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quote:Yeah it does, when you first get your weapon you have more than one clip and will reload when empty. The sniper rifle has a fairly significant delay after every shot too.
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One thing that has surprised me about both HLM games is that there's never a secret back doorway or hidden entrance on any of the levels. HLM1 had the mask in the secret sewer but I don't think HLM2 has anything outside the perimeter of levels. You'd think there'd be at least one just for kicks
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King Vidiot posted:Yeah it does, when you first get your weapon you have more than one clip and will reload when empty. It's only when you're empty that you start picking up single clips at a time from ammo boxes and never reload. (it turned out the ammo boxes weren't just decoration  )
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