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hobbesmaster posted:in this case you have a choice between comcast and att also you never had competition between twc and comcast and the two combined doesn't even exceed 40% of the cable market let alone a majority. so change in monopoly status happens
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Nintendo Kid posted:no, child. but post-breakup att was still 7 monopolies comcast and twc are already monopolies --fishmech
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PCjr sidecar posted:comcast and twc are already monopolies yes they already hold cable monopolies in nearly all markets they're in. that's how cable works in america. are you so dumb you didn't know this?
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Nintendo Kid posted:no, child. but post-breakup att was still 7 monopolies the att breakup had a lot to do with the long distance market. the competing baby bells made long distance much, much more competitive. Citizen Tayne posted:the TWC-Comcast merger is absolutely creating a monopoly and I have no idea why it was permitted. anti-trust concerns about twc/comcast have to do with content production and control over the last mile. as a combined entity, they would have monopoly control over <10% of the last mile, and they would be <10% of content production. sure, the merger won't help consumers, but it probably won't hurt anyone. twc and comcast are both individually horrible already, how could it get any worse?
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Nintendo Kid posted:yes they already hold cable monopolies in nearly all markets they're in. that's how cable works in america. cable monopolies are not a monopoly over internet or tv service in many, many areas there are certainly patches of the country where cable is the only high speed internet, but that's not the default. and there is pretty much nowhere that has cable but not satellite.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the att breakup had a lot to do with the long distance market. the competing baby bells made long distance much, much more competitive. it didn't really change that much though, having it be legal for sprint etc to serve anyone with a regular phone line already did. time warner cable has already had almost all of its content production stuff transferred to main time warner, which would not be part of any merger with comcast btw Notorious b.s.d. posted:cable monopolies are not a monopoly over internet or tv service in many, many areas when idiots whine about the "monopoly" time warner-comcast merger creates, they mean over cable access. (ignoring they both already hold that int heir terrirtories with a few exceptions that rcn also serves)
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Nintendo Kid posted:yes they already hold cable monopolies in nearly all markets they're in. that's how cable works in america. monopoly franchises in local/regional markets are the same thing as a monopoly cable operator --fishmech
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PCjr sidecar posted:monopoly franchises in local/regional markets are the same thing as a monopoly cable operator i really don't understand what you're trying to make fun of here holding lots of cable franchises will not make you a regional monopoly unless there are no competitive non-cable franchises. i don't know of many areas of the united states where this is the case. fiber-to-the-home, fiber-to-the-node DSL, rural wireless all offer pretty drat good alternatives to your local cable franchise
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PCjr sidecar posted:monopoly franchises in local/regional markets are the same thing as a monopoly cable operator so you're just stupid and understand nothing, got it.
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Nintendo Kid posted:so you're just stupid and understand nothing, got it. 
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Waroduce posted:HP makes all their money on toner. I sell enterprise software and managed print systems and lol that poo poo is so expensive theres like 250 points on it, its p sweet. Massive margins on oem toner I saw a patent once for a toner cartridge that would rip itself apart internally when the remaining toner was no longer heavy enough to hold down a spring loaded catch. all to prevent refilling.
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seattle city council disbanded its cable franchise districts this week so maybe we'll see some competition for gigabit internet or smth soon. more likely everyone will just stop rolling out upgrades to poor neighbourhoods instead though lol
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:seattle city council disbanded its cable franchise districts this week so maybe we'll see some competition for gigabit internet or smth soon. more likely everyone will just stop rolling out upgrades to poor neighbourhoods instead though lol i get 110mbit in beacon hill
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:, how could it get any worse? America always finds a way
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what about rcn and municipal fiber operators that provide tv service? *throws grenade and runs away*
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mishaq posted:what about rcn and municipal fiber operators that provide tv service? i had rcn for two years and thought it was ok
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mishaq posted:what about rcn and municipal fiber operators that provide tv service? present in less than about 5% of the country.
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Shifty Pony posted:I saw a patent once for a toner cartridge that would rip itself apart internally when the remaining toner was no longer heavy enough to hold down a spring loaded catch. all to prevent refilling. If ur company isnt a fuckin joke u should use oem
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Also if u have service agreements its industry practice that using reman voids warrently and cancels the contract Or using not service providers reman
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 working 80hr/w at sub-minimum wage is the path to wealth
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NZAmoeba posted:
Jesus that makes me so loving angry. Killing yourself working to break even while making techbros rich. "reducing income inequality"
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also renting a single room out or driving a taxi are exactly the same paths to wealth as owning a hotel with hundreds of rooms or a fleet of taxis because its the hotel staff that are leaving behind the 99%
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NZAmoeba posted:
welp we've had a nice run but i think it's time to turn the lights off on the human experiment let the bombs fall
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NZAmoeba posted:
no no no no no NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONONONOimtriggering
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for a forum full of rule 36 following tech workers, you all seem to care a whole lot about poors (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Flaming June posted:i had rcn for two years and thought it was ok I worked on a project for RCN at my last job
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JewKiller 3000 posted:for a forum full of rule 36 following tech workers, you all seem to care a whole lot about poors we prefer our economy fueled by the sufering of non-american poors, tyvm
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JewKiller 3000 posted:for a forum full of rule 36 following tech workers, you all seem to care a whole lot about poors poors are what do the things that make life tolerable, like serving my mcdonalds and cleaning my toilet.
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Elder Postsman posted:poors are what do the things that make life tolerable, like serving my mcdonalds and cleaning my toilet. so how come it's ok for mcdonalds to exploit the poor but not uber? getting a ride home when you're drunk makes life tolerable too
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JewKiller 3000 posted:for a forum full of rule 36 following tech workers, you all seem to care a whole lot about poors eh i think it's more so that the average yosposter could probably set something like uber pretty easily but it's just this thinly veiled lust for greed wrapped up in the whole "you can make money by being so smart!!!" thing that gets people riled up about uber. the people behind the company aren't really any smarter than any exploitative employer has been for like hundreds of years so far but a lot of places online cant stop talking about how uber is some amazing innovation of the new economy when it's really just vector marketing with an app and backend
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i think it's acceptable to be part of the system, try to do the best you can within it, and still repulsed by the poo poo that startups are peddling. i mean, the reason uber makes their drivers lease high-end cars they can't afford is because they want riders to feel like they are living in a commercial for an expensive watch. it feeds on the worst instincts in people. poor people are getting poorer, not because taxis themselves are an unprofitable industry, but because we would rather ride in a non-taxi taxi that makes us feel good about ourselves and distracts us from the discomfort of living in an imperfect world full of problems. if i lived in SF i would buy a bunch of dirty homeless folk tickets on the bourgeoise bus and film it. probably not quite milliondollarextreme material but it would be funny
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JewKiller 3000 posted:for a forum full of rule 36 following tech workers, you all seem to care a whole lot about poors a lot of us like to pretend that our cush livelihood isn't derived from savagely grinding other's to dust
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JewKiller 3000 posted:so how come it's ok for mcdonalds to exploit the poor but not uber? getting a ride home when you're drunk makes life tolerable too it's sad when mcdonalds exploits their workers. that's a bad thing. but airbnb and uber come with so many more bad things than just an old fashioned mcJob
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