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Freedom Watch just filed a racketeering lawsuit against Hilary.
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Mar 26, 2015 01:10
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Good Citizen posted:Freedom Watch just filed a racketeering lawsuit against Hilary. Freedom Watch sounds like a website that sells knockoff Rolexes.
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Mar 26, 2015 01:12
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How is she racketeering?
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Mar 26, 2015 01:15
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Larry Klayman sued the Clintons eighteen times when he was running Judicial Watch, then he sued Judicial Watch, founded Freedom Watch, and has sued the Clintons an additional half dozen or so times. This would be his 25th lawsuit against them, I believe. Aaaaaaaaany day now he'll win one. Crowsbeak posted:How is she racketeering? Trading favors when she was Secretary of State for donations to the Clinton Foundation, allegedly.
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Mar 26, 2015 01:16
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FAUXTON posted:Freedom Watch sounds like a website that solicits donations from wingnuts and then uses a small percentage of those donations to file bullshit court cases that will be dismissed off-hand.
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Mar 26, 2015 01:16
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Joementum posted:Larry Klayman sued the Clintons eighteen times when he was running Judicial Watch, then he sued Judicial Watch, founded Freedom Watch, and has sued the Clintons an additional half dozen or so times. This would be his 25th lawsuit against them, I believe. Hmm, Larry Klayman... where have I heard that name recently... Oh, right
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Mar 26, 2015 01:25
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Klayman was at that government shutdown rally that Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin spoke at where he told Obama to "put the Koran down and come out with your hands up". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ0ZwA8BfWs
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Mar 26, 2015 01:28
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Zeitgueist posted:It's sad that we basically have to make the choice at this point of "do I go kill brown people for questionable reasons" or "do I get stuck doing poo poo jobs for less than a living wage in the middle of nowhere" because we've basically oriented our economy around getting a few folks rich and imperial power. While this is true, the military has long been a means to upward mobility - at least since 1950 and probably longer, historically. http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-71198-13614/unrestricted/danette3.pdf Doesn't make it right, just puts it into context. Somewhat unrelated, but how much of the backlash against actual soliders/sailors during the Vietnam War is to blame for the knee-jerk "are troops" bullshit today? Boon fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 26, 2015 01:32
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Boon posted:While this is true, the military has long been a means to upward mobility - at least since 1950 and probably longer, historically. I mean, people sure joined the union army for the money, though really it was to send the money back home for the family.
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Mar 26, 2015 01:40
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Boon posted:Somewhat unrelated, but how much of the backlash against actual soliders/sailors during the Vietnam War is to blame for the knee-jerk "are troops" bullshit today? Has it ever been proven that this actually happened?
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Mar 26, 2015 01:43
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Has it ever been proven that this actually happened? Don't know, speculating because that's what I understand happened. Might be wrong 
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Mar 26, 2015 01:49
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Has it ever been proven that this actually happened? Even if it did, it's become our version of the 'stabbed in the back' myth. There's a shockingly large number of people who think that it was protestors and hippies who lost the Vietnam War because they weren't supporting the troops. There's an attempt to do the same thing with the Iraq war (Liberals lost it, the surge "worked").
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Mar 26, 2015 01:49
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Zeitgueist posted:It's sad that we basically have to make the choice at this point of "do I go kill brown people for questionable reasons" or "do I get stuck doing poo poo jobs for less than a living wage in the middle of nowhere" because we've basically oriented our economy around getting a few folks rich and imperial power. Honestly the role of dealing with lovely superior officers day in and day out is also pretty bad, tbqh.
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Mar 26, 2015 01:51
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Has it ever been proven that this actually happened? Yes. Mostly done by the right to anti-war veterans who came back and told the truth about Vietnam.
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Mar 26, 2015 01:59
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I get that even if it didn't happen, it's now accepted that 'happened' for the sake of the narrative. In trying to find some sort of reputable info to back up either stance, I came across these (by the same author): http://www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/?id=350 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spitting_Image and an awful cracked article that at least links sources for the claims: http://www.cracked.com/article_20461_5-lies-about-vietnam-war-you-probably-believe.html Most of the evidence for the other side I found came from forums/blogs and things like this: http://www.vvfh.org/myths/myth27.html I guess it ultimately doesn't matter if it happened or not now, I was just interested if there was a way of substantiating the claim.
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Mar 26, 2015 02:00
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Boehner, McCarthy, Pelosi, and Bernie read mean tweets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FunSMzOyKT8
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Mar 26, 2015 02:19
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DaveWoo posted:Hmm, Larry Klayman... where have I heard that name recently... You know, I should have long since given up caring about this stuff, but this is the kind of thing that pisses me off most. That poor, stupid, probably fat woman is absolutely terrified, and that slimy son of a bitch just dodges instead of using the opportunity to assure her that none of that is actually true.
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Mar 26, 2015 02:31
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DaveWoo posted:Hmm, Larry Klayman... where have I heard that name recently... Also: List of The West Wing Characters posted:Larry Claypool – John Diehl: Freedom Watch lawyer (Seasons 1, 4) who spends his time filing lawsuits against President Bartlet and his staff in hopes of bringing down the administration.
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Mar 26, 2015 02:43
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Joementum posted:Boehner, McCarthy, Pelosi, and Bernie read mean tweets. Great video but I'm not sure if comparing Bernie to doc brown is mean. Also lol at boehner not knowing what gobstoppers are.
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Mar 26, 2015 02:54
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Great video but I'm not sure if comparing Bernie to doc brown is mean. I think he's actually offended by that.
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Mar 26, 2015 03:01
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Joementum posted:If Mike Pence signs a bill that allows businesses to discriminate based on sexual orientation (which he is expected to do) Gen Con is going to pick up its dice, and figurines, and cards and leave Indiana. It's one of the biggest annual tourist events for Indianapolis. Good for them. I grew up playing Magic, and based on some of the people I saw during tournaments... wow. Times have changed, and for the better 
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Mar 26, 2015 03:13
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The signing is happening Thursday night. He probably would have done it today, but the media started reporting on an HIV outbreak in the state.
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Mar 26, 2015 03:27
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Joementum posted:If Mike Pence signs a bill that allows businesses to discriminate based on sexual orientation (which he is expected to do) Gen Con is going to pick up its dice, and figurines, and cards and leave Indiana. It's one of the biggest annual tourist events for Indianapolis. Dehry posted:The signing is happening Thursday night. He probably would have done it today, but the media started reporting on an HIV outbreak in the state. That's not because the state, county, or young Dems support it, its because any attempt at organizing any action at all beyond someones personal clique, much less those groups working together, basically takes an act of god. When Mitch Daniels rolled in and got the GOP party together a few years back the Dems went to pieces. Anyways, there is a bipartisan bill in the house to repeal the Patriot act http://thehill.com/policy/technology/236769-house-effort-would-completely-dismantle-patriot-act Spoiler alert: it will go nowhere
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Mar 26, 2015 03:51
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Radbot posted:Phonebank for Please, this is QV. Phonebank for Cruz.
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Mar 26, 2015 03:58
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Fried Chicken posted:Anyways, there is a bipartisan bill in the house to repeal the Patriot act http://thehill.com/policy/technology/236769-house-effort-would-completely-dismantle-patriot-act Not only will the Patriot Act never be repealed, I bet it'll get dug up in like the 22nd century to justify weird poo poo it was never intended to apply to, just like the Espionage Act of 1917 gets occasionally brought out now.
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Mar 26, 2015 04:22
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Please, this is QV. Phonebank for Cruz. Good call. I'm moving in a week, and I'm going to change from being registered as Independent to Republican. I can't fuckin wait. I'll post pictures of the North Florida flyers and stuff I get. It'll be a hoot.
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Mar 26, 2015 05:26
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QV has set the standard for insufferable accelerationists, the bar is to high now. Regardless things ARE getting better, if only slowly. Go volunteer at your local dems office if you want to help make a difference, get to know some local politicians.
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Mar 26, 2015 05:28
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Quidam Viator posted:Hahahahaha! Hoooo boy, that's some funny poo poo. Yeah, I phonebanked for Obama in 2008, was an Obamatar, etc. Man, Hillary is my progressive fuckin hero! She's going to make all kinds of progress, just like Obama did, while the GOP and the Kochs just own the poo poo out of the nation from the city level all the way up through the House and Senate. I'm sure they'll change their minds about being obstructionists once it's a woman and not a black man in the Oval!
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Mar 26, 2015 05:38
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poo poo.
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Joementum posted:Larry Klayman sued the Clintons eighteen times when he was running Judicial Watch, then he sued Judicial Watch, founded Freedom Watch, and has sued the Clintons an additional half dozen or so times. This would be his 25th lawsuit against them, I believe. How the gently caress has he not been declared a vexatious litigant? Do you need to hit 50 bullshit suits? Is there a card that gets punched? Maybe you get the 50th filing free just to help you over the limit. Duke Igthorn posted:A few excerpts: I hope Misters Berg and Nelson had/have a great wedding day. If you make more than 150k and care about a couple more cents on the dollar I'm hoping you stay far away anyway. It's not that expensive to live here.
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Mar 26, 2015 05:40
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Venom Snake posted:QV has set the standard for insufferable accelerationists, the bar is to high now. I'm sorry you feel that way. I certainly don't come here to call people names or shitpost. I am honest about what I think, and I act in accordance with those beliefs. I also thought the thread might genuinely enjoy seeing some of the local propaganda that only North Florida can produce. You can do your thing, I can do mine, and we can be civil about it, right? I'm fully aware I will never make a huge dent on DnD's attitudes and perceptions, but come on, insufferable? Oracle posted:On the other hand, Hillary isn't going to be all 'can't we all just get along' for six years and rely on the better angels of the GOP's nature, having been victim to their tender mercies for the past two decades. I'll tell you this, I know she may have a harder style, but I don't think I'm unjustified in calling her out for not being anything progressive at all. She's a Wall Street darling with a pretty aggressive foreign affairs history, and we know about the DLC's style that she and Bill came from. Do you really expect some Frank Underwood kind of poo poo from her? I do know that the odds are good that she'll be president, and the GOP will hold Congress, but hell, this far out, anything can happen. Quidam Viator fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 26, 2015 05:40
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If your going to help further the cause of terrible people the very least you could do is admit that you to, are a terrible person. And I am very aware of how poo poo North Florida is.
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Mar 26, 2015 05:59
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silvergoose posted:I mean, people sure joined the union army for the money, though really it was to send the money back home for the family. You know this is still a thing right? There were a disconcertingly large number of people I served with that joined to help their sick mom/dad/whatever out with the bills. Most of them were sending half their paycheck back home.
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Mar 26, 2015 06:02
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Quidam Viator posted:Do you really expect some Frank Underwood kind of poo poo from her? If you define Frank Underwood poo poo as incredibly watered down compromises with the Republicans as what happened in the Obamacare-esque education bill in season 1, I'd say yes. We may yet again need to rely on the Tea Party wing's unfiltered hate of the DNC / a woman president to prevent a grand bargain from happening, because I sure as poo poo don't expect the GOP's obstructionism to stop, but neither do I expect that Obama will be able to brief Hillary on the futility of bipartisanship (and have her believe it)
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Mar 26, 2015 06:03
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The territories also provide a large amount of our service members.
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Mar 26, 2015 06:03
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Quidam Viator posted:I'll tell you this, I know she may have a harder style, but I don't think I'm unjustified in calling her out for not being anything progressive at all. She's a Wall Street darling with a pretty aggressive foreign affairs history, and we know about the DLC's style that she and Bill came from. Do you really expect some Frank Underwood kind of poo poo from her?
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Mar 26, 2015 06:04
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Relentlessboredomm posted:You know this is still a thing right? There were a disconcertingly large number of people I served with that joined to help their sick mom/dad/whatever out with the bills. Most of them were sending half their paycheck back home. Well yeah, I was noting that people joined for the money back then, too. I mean, people were joining the Roman legions for loot. It's the main reason people join armies.
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Mar 26, 2015 06:09
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^^^^^Ahh ok. No argument there. Venom Snake posted:The territories also provide a large amount of our service members. Yup. I met a ton of Samoans, even though its an island with a population of ~200k. There was some crazy statistic about Guam having the highest percentage of people who serve(d) in the states or territories.
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Mar 26, 2015 06:10
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Relentlessboredomm posted:^^^^^Ahh ok. No argument there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CesHr99ezWE
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Mar 26, 2015 06:11
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man it must have been a weird experience for wizened good-ol-boy ultraconservatives like thad cochran the first time they started waking up to tea party attack ads calling them Liberals, possibly alerted by servingpeople coming to empty their chamberpots of nightsoil
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Mar 26, 2015 06:13
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Venom Snake posted:If your going to help further the cause of terrible people the very least you could do is admit that you to, are a terrible person. This is SA. I've spent 15 years of my life on here. I am a horrible monster, and I pray for death. What else did you expect? 
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