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Have more architecture before fetus-chat takes over. http://ghostsofdc.org/2013/06/20/the-unbuilt-ulysses-grant-memorial-bridge/ quote:Here is an article from the Baltimore Sun, published on February 12th, 1887. Lincoln Memorial Design I guess we got the Chunnel instead. Not a real proposal but interesting to look at. London Underground ad 1926 Library of Congress Proposal quote:Rendering of the Proposal for the Washington Monument grounds, by the Senate Park Commission, 1901-02.The wide steps, the circular pool, and the terraced gardens were all intended to provide a more dignified base for the monument, while resolving the awkward geometry resulting from its placement off the axis from the White House. Monument to Columbus in Madrid MONUMENT TO THE GLORY OF THE FRENCH REVOLUTION, 1886 Conversion of Tower Bridge in London (1943) 91m tall pyramid for London's Trafalgar Square (1815) Nckdictator has a new favorite as of 00:52 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Nckdictator posted:91m tall pyramid for London's Trafalgar Square (1815) You neglect to mention that this was supposed to be a giant mausoleum. quote:Church yards were so crowded at the beginning of the 19th century that corpses were literally bursting out of the soil. Some people believed that a necropolis for the dead might be the answer. In 1829 the architect Thomas Willson came up with a proposal for the storage of millions of dead bodies in a pyramid situated in Primrose Hill, North London, one of the highest places in London. Constructed from brick with granite facings, it would have been 94 storeys high and the base would have covered 18 acres. In his prospectus, Willson claimed that the mausoleum would have made about £10,000,000 – an enormous amount in those days. He hoped that people would enjoy looking up at this splendid monument as they ate their picnics.
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Yay! I get to post something which is only slightly offtopic! H. H. Homes, creator of the "Murder Castle" wikipedia posted:After the completion of the hotel, Holmes selected mostly female victims from among his employees (many of whom were required as a condition of employment to take out life insurance policies, for which Holmes would pay the premiums but was also the beneficiary), as well as his lovers and hotel guests, whom he would later kill. Some were locked in soundproof bedrooms fitted with gas lines that let him asphyxiate them at any time. Other victims were locked in a huge soundproof bank vault near his office, where they were left to suffocate. He confessed to 27 murders but the exact number is not known. One of the first documented Serial Killers.
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Not terribly scary, but still a little weird... The Washington Monument. It was constructed between 1848-1885, meaning that the building phase at the time was a third of the history of the United States as a nation. I've walked down it, which is really odd. (At the time, they weren't letting anyone climb up it, which was fine with me. We rode the elevator to the top and then hiked down with a guy from the Army Corps of Engineers as guide.) The top is pretty modern, but as you go down the steps it gets older and older, and you see weird stuff where construction stopped at times (for pesky things like the Civil War) and finally you get to the bottom which looks pretty ancient, yet is still holding everything up. Inside the staircase are commemorative stones embedded in the walls, these sort of plaques made with geological specimens of whichever state, country, or group donated it. The one from a Pope didn't fare well: quote:At that time a memorial stone that was contributed by Pope Pius IX, called the Pope's Stone, was destroyed by members of the anti-Catholic, nativist American Party, better known as the "Know-Nothings", during the early morning hours of March 6, 1854 (a priest replaced it in 1982). They've been added at various phases of construction and repair ever since it started, and some as recent as the 1980s: pdf catalog of stones Unnerving part? since there are no windows except at the top, you kind of feel like you're digging down through 150+ years of history deep into the earth, and then you walk out into modern day DC where it's bright and sunny. benito has a new favorite as of 02:16 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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As a non-American, I seriously had no idea you could go inside the Washington Monument. I thought it was just a big obelisk and that was it. I've learned something from this thread other than the fear of humanity in general
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benito posted:They've been added at various phases of construction and repair ever since it started, and some as recent as the 1980s: Wow,thanks for this! I visited the monument when I was 8 or 9. I was scared of heights (and elevators!) so while taking the elevator up so I asked the Army CoE guy if there was a chance the elevator would fall and kill us all. He replied that the Lincoln Memorial's elevators were lovely but the ones at the WM were safe. Here's a random DC trivia post I made a week back. http://ghostsofdc.org/ The Lincoln Memorial swamp, 1917 A letter from a future president to the then current one. The unbuilt Teddy Roosevelt Memorial quote:Washington Post December 13th, 1925 Early Washington Monument proposal The New Willard Hotel, where in 1922 a fairly amusing incident occurred quote:There was a small fire at the New Willard Hotel and, for safety’s sake, all the guests were ordered down from their rooms. After it appeared that the danger had passed, Coolidge started up to his suite. Officer Sprinkle saves the Old Masonic Temple, quote:Washington Post -July 1st, 1914 "Claude Grahame-White landing his biplane on West Executive Avenue October 14th, 1910 " Remember when the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee was mugged and shot infront of his own house? quote:Senator John Stennis was shot both in the chest and the leg, after he was mugged in front of his North Cleveland Park house (3609 Cumberland St. NW). He was returning home in the evening after work on January 30th, 1973 On a more cheerful note... quote:This is a serious case of right place, right time. The Class of ’75 at Holton-Arms had a notable classmate in Susan Ford, the daughter of President Gerald Ford. Nckdictator has a new favorite as of 02:22 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:As a non-American, I seriously had no idea you could go inside the Washington Monument. I thought it was just a big obelisk and that was it. There are lots of the stones from different countries. There's one mysterious one from Japan in 1853, and a newer legible one from the 80s... Plus boring ones from printing groups or firefighters in the late 1800s. It's really crazy because they just sort of find places to shove in these gifts in the marble. Yes, the interior of the Washington Monument is like Victorian NASCAR. When I visited in the late 80s they may or may not have been installing a stone and I may or may not have collected pieces of scrap marble that had fallen on the stairs. Had I done such a thing, it would only be to keep someone from inadvertently slipping on the way down. EDIT: Oh, and a LOT of Freemason stuff and commemorative stones in the Washington Monument, so if any of you want to go down that rabbit hole, have fun!
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DumbparameciuM posted:Yay! I get to post something which is only slightly offtopic! Although some of his confessions turned out to be false so even that number isn't right. The one he was actually caught for is pretty crazy. He told his accomplice, Benjamin Pitezel, that they were going to fake Pitezel's death to collect on an insurance policy and instead Holmes just actually murdered him. Holmes then went on the run with Pitezel's family and one of his many wives and during their journey managed to kill several of Pitezel's children without anyone knowing (Holmes separated the various family members and claimed that they were staying in different places.)
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Would love to see this thing just covered with AAA like a flak bridge.
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So I don't know how many of you read the Cold War Airpower thread in TFR (it's a good collection of humor, history, military porn, and sheer horror at the general bureaucracy of the MIC both Cold War and modern). But from this thread I got a recommendation for a book called Command and Control which discusses in detail just how close the world has come to nuclear disasters and war since 1945. The central thread running through the book is a detailed account of the Damascus, Arkansas incident. The Wikipedia article is really bare bones and doesn't do the story justice. In brief, the incident involves a team doing routine maintenance on a Titan II missile in Damascus, Arkansas, when a worker using a socket on a wrench the socket wasn't designed for, accidentally drops the socket down the missile silo. The falling socket pierces the first-stage fuel tank, which causes a fuel leak and an evacuation of the silo is called for (but not the site). Eight and a half hours later, as a result of poor communication, poor information, military bureaucracy, and some bad decisions the fuel ignites and the entire complex explodes. The military ultimately ends up placing the blame of the whole ordeal on the only enlisted airman who died that night. Other stories such as nuclear weapons accidentally being loaded into planes flying across the United States despite at least 4 checkpoints in place to check for such things, concerns about the safety controls on nuclear weapons being raised by the people who build the weapons twenty years before anything is actually done about the vulnerabilities, a report that indicates that in any given year at least 200 Broken Arrow incidents occur, and the launch codes installed on many weapons being set to "00000" fill the book.. In short, the only reason the world hasn't ended in nuclear hellfire can really only be said to be because God or something loves us and wants us to be happy. And this is only after hearing about stories of the US nuclear arsenal that have managed to get out. Who knows what stories are still hidden/classified or what has happened in other nuclear states.
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Frostwerks posted:Would love to see this thing just covered with AAA like a flak bridge. It's a interesting idea Nckdictator has a new favorite as of 04:21 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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On the off-chance that there's room among these old building stories for some unnerving wikipedia articles, check out Kuman Thong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuman_Thong quote:Kuman Thong (Thai: กุมารทอง) is an effigy, or statue which is revered in Thailand by animists. They are believed to bring luck and fortune to the owner, if properly revered. Kuman, or Kumara (Pali) means "young boy" (female kumari); thong means golden. Kuman thong is not a Buddhist practice, but necromancy. Genuine Kuman Thong, which was revered and created in ancient times according to traditional method by Adept practitioners of Saiyasart, was made by surgically removing the unborn fetus from the womb of its Mother. The body of the child would then be taken to a cemetery for the conduction of the ceremony to invoke a Kuman Thong. The body is roasted until dry whilst the Mage chants incantations of magical kata. In the case of making a female spirit child, the effigy is not called Kuman Tong, rather “Hong Pray”. edit: Six golden manbabies? That's just greedy. Inevitable has a new favorite as of 05:56 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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dissss posted:None if the devices passengers are likely to be carrying would be of any use for that. Are you saying you don't have an Iridium phone on you at all times in case you're out of cell coverage?
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>Nckdictator, can you dig up anything for us on a crazy rear end project? City planners decided that to provide illumination at night instead of providing individual streetlights in every street, they would build a giant lighthouse in the centre of Paris. Real plan. Kind of a shame they came to their senses in the end.
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Yeah so it turns out the airliner that just crashed in the Alps was crashed deliberately by the co-pilot, after he locked the other pilot out of the cockpit. http://news.sky.com/story/1453092/alps-crash-co-pilot-wanted-to-destroy-plane #FuckThisPlanet
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Nckdictator posted:It's a interesting idea Apparently the top of Tower Bridge, originally intended as a walkway, was closed relatively soon after the bridge opened because, being in Victorian London, it quickly filled with prostitutes. I can only assume the raising and lowering of the deck made their transactions real knee-tremblers.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:>Nckdictator, can you dig up anything for us on a crazy rear end project? City planners decided that to provide illumination at night instead of providing individual streetlights in every street, they would build a giant lighthouse in the centre of Paris. Real plan. Kind of a shame they came to their senses in the end. Most of the info/stuff i'm finding is from here. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/ I'll see if i can find anything on the Paris Lighthouse though. Edit: a quick google search isn't finding anything whatsoever. Nckdictator has a new favorite as of 18:01 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Nckdictator posted:I'll see if i can find anything on the Paris Lighthouse though. Yeah, I can't find anything either but I read it in at least 2 good factual books about Paris, so I am sure it is true, though....
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Never mind, I bet you were thinking of Sébillot's "Sun Tower". AlbieQuirky has a new favorite as of 18:33 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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AlbieQuirky posted:Josef K., are you thinking about the "moonlight tower" idea that city planners were so excited about for a while? Yep! You got it. Great work. Yes, essentially the plan was to have a giant one of those at the centre of Paris but in the end they went with ordinary streetlighting. Fascinating link. Thanks!
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Nckdictator posted:Most of the info/stuff i'm finding is from here. There's the MoonlIght Towers, called Moon Towers for short. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_tower
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:Yeah so it turns out the airliner that just crashed in the Alps was crashed deliberately by the co-pilot, after he locked the other pilot out of the cockpit. Came here to post this. And of course the article I read had to point out that they're going through the co-pilot's home looking for, among other things, any articles pertaining to his faith.
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http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9E05E3D81E39E133A25755C1A9649D946395D6CF Anyone mind if i make another architecture post?
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Nckdictator posted:Anyone mind if i make another architecture post? I say go ahead.
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It's not strictly germane to the thread title but neither is half the stuff posted here and it's pretty interesting. I, at least, would be interested in it.
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I'd just like to request if at all possible that you use [timg] tags rather than [img], because the huge number of images loading can be a bit irritating IMO - that aside, it's pretty drat fascinating.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:I'd just like to request if at all possible that you use [timg] tags rather than [img], because the huge number of images loading can be a bit irritating IMO - that aside, it's pretty drat fascinating. Will do.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:I'd just like to request if at all possible that you use [timg] tags rather than [img], because the huge number of images loading can be a bit irritating IMO - that aside, it's pretty drat fascinating. Timg doesn't fix that, though. The best way to do it is append h to the Imgur I'd, so foo.jpg becomes fooh.jpg. this scales the longest side of the image to 1024 px.
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Adding a b or m to the end works, too (for box and medium respectively).
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Nckdictator posted:It's a interesting idea I didn't even notice the windows to be honest lol.
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I am eating the architecture up. Start another thread for it so it can live on.
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Mescal posted:I am eating the architecture up. Start another thread for it so it can live on. I'll get behind this. A thread of architectural oddities, lost technology and historical trivia in PYF would be great. It's pretty amazing that such a technologically dramatic and culturally significant event like the establishment of moontowers can come and go without leaving a strong presence or historical awareness 100 or even 50 years later. The PYF scary article thread can go through phases of "PYF serial killer", which I'm not a great fan of. Let's have an alternative: "PYF Ungrossing Engrossing Oddities".
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People in Kazakhstan are falling asleep for days--and nobody knows whyquote:Hundreds of residents of Kalachi, a small town near a former Soviet Union uranium mine in Kazakhstan, have been suffering from a mysterious sleeping sickness that causes them to fall asleep for two to six days and wake up with significant memory loss.
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Mescal posted:I am eating the architecture up. Start another thread for it so it can live on. There is an architecture thread in GPS that's honestly not so bad. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3701638&pagenumber=1
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:Yeah so it turns out the airliner that just crashed in the Alps was crashed deliberately by the co-pilot, after he locked the other pilot out of the cockpit. This is common enough that there's a list of possible Suicides by pilot
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Nth Doctor posted:This is common enough that there's a list of possible Suicides by pilot In fact, there's a school of thought that many inexplicable accidents are caused by suicides. Broadly, a 'front page suicide' leads to a surge in suicides, single car accidents and even plane accidents ("covert suicides") in the immediate aftermath. There's some controversy (see the delightful "Comprehensive Textbook of Suicidology" by Berman, Silverman, Bonga), with a few researchers saying that it needs a celebrity suicide to have an effect. But "Mass media influence on suicide. The Werther effect" by Pavesi & Di Fiorino says quote:Phillips has compared the increased suicide rates in the USA in the month after the publication of front-page stories of suicides, with the suicides which might have been expected from calculations. From 1948 to 1967, 34 suicide stories had these characteristics. In 26 cases the number of suicides was significantly higher than the number expected. In order to exclude the possibility that the increase was caused not by the notice itself of the suicide, but by the death of celebrities, Phillips examined the trend of suicide after the deaths of 8 Presidents of the United States, occured between 1900 and 1968. The increase was not statistically significant, also after the murder of J.F.Kennedy there was a light increase of suicides.
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Nth Doctor posted:This is common enough that there's a list of possible Suicides by pilot This is just as unnerving to me as anything else in this thread. I have the utmost sympathy for those who get to the point where they feel they need to commit suicide (my great uncle just did so a few months ago), but the desire to take 30-to-40 (edit: more like 30-to-300 ) innocent people down with you just digusts me at the most basic human level. Congratulations sadbrains, you just found a way to make your life an even bigger waste and a more revolting embarrassment through your final actions, wiping away any possible regret anyone could have about you ending your pathetic existence. But hey, you were gonna kill yourself anyway so who cares about all that right??
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bamhand posted:There is an architecture thread in GPS that's honestly not so bad. It seems like the architectural stuff might be a better fit there? I'm some kind of ogre, I guess, but I come to this thread to goth out and resent everything. (Thank you for the really cool effortposts, though, nckdictator.)
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NiceGuy posted:This is just as unnerving to me as anything else in this thread. I have the utmost sympathy for those who get to the point where they feel they need to commit suicide (my great uncle just did so a few months ago), but the desire to take 30-to-40 (edit: more like 30-to-300 ) innocent people down with you just digusts me at the most basic human level. Congratulations sadbrains, you just found a way to make your life an even bigger waste and a more revolting embarrassment through your final actions, wiping away any possible regret anyone could have about you ending your pathetic existence. But hey, you were gonna kill yourself anyway so who cares about all that right?? As righteous as it feels to simmer with abject hatred/loathing for people who accomplish such heinous feats (and i'm not implying you do), its important to remember that its a sickness/illness/disease. In the same vein that we pause (at least in some states) from executing mentally deficient individuals so too is there some reduced culpability when assigning blame to a sick person for their actions. To reach the point of suicide is to be so mentally broken as to no longer rationalize right from wrong and the cost/value of human life as a healthy individual would. This is evidenced in suicides (as mentioned earlier) where drivers will head into oncoming traffic, usually resulting in multiple fatalities. In their case, they simply lacked the pilot's license to wrack up the death toll, but in both cases they were both so mentally affected that they no longer possessed rational though on the value of human life. Every time I hear of one of these type of cases I descend through a kind of Kubler-Ross ladder of loss until eventually settling on the fact that the most worthwhile energy is spent figuring out how to recognize who needs help and seriously analyze our cultures' priorities and stigma's concerning depressions and related illnesses.
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NiceGuy posted:This is just as unnerving to me as anything else in this thread. I have the utmost sympathy for those who get to the point where they feel they need to commit suicide (my great uncle just did so a few months ago), but the desire to take 30-to-40 (edit: more like 30-to-300 ) innocent people down with you just digusts me at the most basic human level. Congratulations sadbrains, you just found a way to make your life an even bigger waste and a more revolting embarrassment through your final actions, wiping away any possible regret anyone could have about you ending your pathetic existence. But hey, you were gonna kill yourself anyway so who cares about all that right?? Suicides are rarely carried out by rational actors. You're presuming that the pilot sat down one morning and said "this is the way to do this" and did so from a fully rational point of view, having considered everything in a fully conciliar and rational state of mind. If he had, perhaps he'd be a murderer. If he'd sat down and done all of that, with a mental illness like depression then he's a victim as much as anyone else. Someone who plans out a suicide, acts it out or tries to, is not making rational decisions that can be judged as you have done here. Would you say "a revolting embarrassment" if the pilot had a heart attack, or an embolism or some other virtually invisible disease that killed him in the cockpit and caused the plane to crash? No. This is a fundamental issue with how mental illness is treated. It is a disease and an illness - the clue is in the name - that causes you to think, feel and act irrationally. Perhaps he thought about it, and thought about the passengers. Perhaps he didn't. As it is, it is not very important either way. This was (possibly as far as we know) the action of a man who was mentally ill. Further than that this is something almost exclusively related to depression as well, isn't it? Plenty of stories in this thread about people with mental illnesses that cause them to do things other people find horrific or impossible to understand. In most cases, from the inside, from the perspective of someone who is mentally ill, these are rational decisions. "Congratulations sad brains" is a terrible thing to think about anyone who causes harm to themselves or others. This is a tragedy but hopefully at least some light will come of it - an improvement in attitudes towards mental illness such as your own. Come on man. I'm really sorry about your great uncle, but it might do you good for your grief to read up about why suicidal ideations happen, why they peak and fall away and why suicide by pilot and by car happens. We are fragile fragile apes with a brain that often can't handle itself well. Have some sympathy for people with mental illnesses, not least because you could develop one yourself.
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