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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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SFH1989 posted:For my next car I'm considering a FiST, WRX, new EB Mustang, or a lightly used 13/14 GT. I'd love a FoRS but I'm doubting that it will be reasonably affordable or easy to get. This is exactly the situation I find myself in. I haven't gotten to test drive any of them yet, but street buzz has me leaning towards the FiST. Several trackday friends have let me know that the FiST is a great daily fun car, which is part of why I'm looking at it. EDIT: I fuckquoted the wrong post. Joyous me. The Prong Song fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Sigma X posted:This is exactly the situation I find myself in. I haven't gotten to test drive any of them yet, but street buzz has me leaning towards the FiST. Several trackday friends have let me know that the FiST is a great daily fun car, which is part of why I'm looking at it. Do it! I can't see myself having $15000 worth of more fun in a focus RS than I do in the fiesta. Sure it looks like a great car, and I'll wasn't a used one down the road, but new it's just not worth it to me at the expected price.
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Mar 27, 2015 13:08
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smooth jazz posted:Oh for pete's sake, I'm on "The List" for a Focus RS. You and me too  
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Mar 27, 2015 15:58
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Bovril Delight posted:No way. I've driven both and it isn't comparable. Have you driving a BRZ after its been warmed up for 20 minutes? It is amazing after all the fluids warmed up before the it get warmed up it is pretty bad. Both the BRZ and S2000 have an Aisin transmission. edit: I am homer
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Mar 27, 2015 16:40
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Calidus posted:Have you driving a BRZ after its been warmed up for 20 minutes? It is amazing after all the fluids warmed up before the it get warmed up it is pretty bad. Both the BRZ and S2000 have an Aisin transmission. Totally loving gutless under 6k, but pretty nice once you reach that power band. Id still rather have a Mustang V6. But thats just me.
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Mar 27, 2015 16:47
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Pardon me for veering off-topic a little, but I'm a dumb idiot who likes to post and I'm curious about why manufacturers build gearboxes with longer throws in the first place. Would you care to explain this to me like I'm a person who never learned how to drive stick? It's the difference between playing Goldeneye with a worn-out N64 controller, and playing *insert PC FPS here* with a good mouse and keyboard.
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Mar 27, 2015 16:47
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Sigma X posted:This is exactly the situation I find myself in. I haven't gotten to test drive any of them yet, but street buzz has me leaning towards the FiST. Several trackday friends have let me know that the FiST is a great daily fun car, which is part of why I'm looking at it. GutBomb posted:Do it! I can't see myself having $15000 worth of more fun in a focus RS than I do in the fiesta. Sure it looks like a great car, and I'll wasn't a used one down the road, but new it's just not worth it to me at the expected price. The FiST really is good. I've driven a couple now and it's a fun little go-cart. Plus I've been driving a Fiesta for almost three years and the size is rarely an issue. The only issue I have with the FiST is not offering the auto dimming rear view mirror or backup camera from the Titanium. I know it's to keep cost down but they could at least offer them. Non issues though, I could at least buy the mirror an put it in myself. I want to try the Mustangs to satisfy my inner teenager. When I was in middle/high school I wanted a fox body 5.0 badly.
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Mar 27, 2015 16:59
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IOwnCalculus posted:It's the difference between playing Goldeneye with a worn-out N64 controller, and playing *insert PC FPS here* with a good mouse and keyboard. Excuse me sir but Goldeneye is the best FPS in the recorded history of mankind.
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Mar 27, 2015 17:03
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Just drove a 2015 maxed Focus ST. 402 package with sunroof. It felt very ... American? It felt tight, but far far less refined than the GTI I drove. The GTI felt luxurious in comparison. The focus is much cheaper, but I think I see why now.
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Mar 27, 2015 17:04
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SFH1989 posted:The FiST really is good. I've driven a couple now and it's a fun little go-cart. Plus I've been driving a Fiesta for almost three years and the size is rarely an issue. The only issue I have with the FiST is not offering the auto dimming rear view mirror or backup camera from the Titanium. I know it's to keep cost down but they could at least offer them. Non issues though, I could at least buy the mirror an put it in myself.
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Mar 27, 2015 17:05
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IOwnCalculus posted:It's the difference between playing Goldeneye with a worn-out N64 controller, and playing *insert PC FPS here* with a good mouse and keyboard.
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Mar 27, 2015 18:40
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fwiw I misshifted a ton going into third gear on the focus and I partially blame the shifter. on the miata you can almost flick it into gear with just your finger
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Mar 27, 2015 18:54
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If I had one gripe about the Fiesta ST it would be that the gear shifter is about an inch and a half further forward than I'd like it.
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Mar 27, 2015 19:11
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The shifter in the BMW E34 is possibly one of the best ever made. It made such a satisfying little brrrpt vibration as you got a gear and you could flail that shifter around with no resistance at all.
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Mar 27, 2015 20:59
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A MIRACLE posted:fwiw I misshifted a ton going into third gear on the focus and I partially blame the shifter. on the miata you can almost flick it into gear with just your finger I find the same with the FiST. If I decide to spend any more 'non-maintenance' on it, it will be for a boomba transmission adapter
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Mar 27, 2015 21:14
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ilkhan posted:I've never understood dimming mirrors. I never flip my mirror to dark. Glare is annoying, but with it dimmed you lose all depth perception since you can't see anything but random lights behind you. I suppose if you simple want a binary traffic-behind/no-traffic-behind you thing... I use dark fairly regularly when I'm on the interstate and some stupid bro-dozer decides to follow me with his stupidly illegal sunlights boring through my back window and into my eyes. GutBomb posted:If I had one gripe about the Fiesta ST it would be that the gear shifter is about an inch and a half further forward than I'd like it. That was a factor in my choosing the Focus over the Fiesta. The shifter in the Fiesta is both lower, and further forward than the shifter in the Focus, at least to my 'feel' when sitting in the cars.
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Mar 28, 2015 05:08
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ilkhan posted:I've never understood dimming mirrors. I never flip my mirror to dark. Glare is annoying, but with it dimmed you lose all depth perception since you can't see anything but random lights behind you. I suppose if you simple want a binary traffic-behind/no-traffic-behind you thing... I'm not sure if you're making the same assumption I did; but the auto dimming in modern cars is different to the manual dimming I'd experienced in older (pre-2000s) cars. It's like a progressive tint based on the amount of light the HID totting morons behind you are pouring into your car and is actually really handy in my superior AUDM FiST 
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Mar 28, 2015 06:30
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sadnessboner posted:I'm not sure if you're making the same assumption I did; but the auto dimming in modern cars is different to the manual dimming I'd experienced in older (pre-2000s) cars. It's like a progressive tint based on the amount of light the HID totting morons behind you are pouring into your car and is actually really handy in my superior AUDM FiST I thought I would never use mine that came with my car, but its probably my most favorite "convenience" feature. Works so drat well.
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Mar 28, 2015 14:14
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Treated my baby to some new wheels (Motegi MR125 16x7), tires (BFGoodrich gForce Sport COMP-2s, 205/45/16), an alignment (installed new springs last weekend), an oil change and a wash today!
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Mar 29, 2015 02:31
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Coolnezzz posted:Treated my baby to some new wheels (Motegi MR125 16x7), tires (BFGoodrich gForce Sport COMP-2s, 205/45/16), an alignment (installed new springs last weekend), an oil change and a wash today! Nice! How hard were the springs to install? Worth it?
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Mar 29, 2015 03:04
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howling_mad posted:Nice! How hard were the springs to install? Worth it? The springs were not difficult at all to install, just time consuming. Using the cheap Harbor Freight spring compressors took the longest but they worked fine and at $15 they were totally worth it. The springs I went with were Mountune Sports and while they are only 5% stiffer than the stockers they are actually a bit more forgiving for every day driving as they are progressive rather than linear. Small bumps in the road aren't as jarring any more and it seems to feel a bit more planted when cornering. I haven't done any spirited driving since upgrading so I can't really comment on their performance as of yet but everything I've read about them says they're definitely worth the price. I was mainly going for the slightly softer every day ride and getting rid of some of that wheel gap. I definitely like them so far!
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Mar 30, 2015 19:28
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Taco Box posted:Shifter by playskool. Not even in the same league. No feedback, imperceptible gating. The NC 6 speed is so notchy and mechanical I swear I can see in my mind's eye the synchros and dogs doing their thing in each shift, it's perfection. Except when it's cold, then it's the car's main way of telling you you're an idiot for daily driving a miata. I will still dream about working the shifter in my NC. I haven't had that car for over six years now.
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Mar 30, 2015 19:31
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Coolnezzz posted:The springs were not difficult at all to install, just time consuming. Using the cheap Harbor Freight spring compressors took the longest but they worked fine and at $15 they were totally worth it. The springs I went with were Mountune Sports and while they are only 5% stiffer than the stockers they are actually a bit more forgiving for every day driving as they are progressive rather than linear. Small bumps in the road aren't as jarring any more and it seems to feel a bit more planted when cornering. I haven't done any spirited driving since upgrading so I can't really comment on their performance as of yet but everything I've read about them says they're definitely worth the price. I was mainly going for the slightly softer every day ride and getting rid of some of that wheel gap. I definitely like them so far! Thanks for the input!
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Mar 30, 2015 21:27
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Anyone got input on the FiST Recaros? I've been trying to track down one to test-drive, but the closest one is 280 miles away (and in that awful, high-school-cool lime green color). How necessary is the Recaro package?
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Mar 31, 2015 13:03
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Sigma X posted:Anyone got input on the FiST Recaros? I've been trying to track down one to test-drive, but the closest one is 280 miles away (and in that awful, high-school-cool lime green color). How necessary is the Recaro package? They also get you heated seats and heated side mirrors. I'm a fairly big guy and I would get them if I bought a FiST. They can also be had in molten orange to match the molten orange paint you're obviously going to get.
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Mar 31, 2015 13:15
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Sigma X posted:Anyone got input on the FiST Recaros? I've been trying to track down one to test-drive, but the closest one is 280 miles away (and in that awful, high-school-cool lime green color). How necessary is the Recaro package? I test drove both versions and I'd say the recaros are an absolute must. The regular seats lack support all over and make the interior feel very cheap. I didn't even take turns very fast with the salesman in the car and I could tell I'd be sliding all over the place during spirited diving without them. I've had my fiesta with recaros for 10k miles now and I couldn't imagine the car without them.
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Mar 31, 2015 17:31
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Dealer called to let me know they had a 15 R. So they're starting to make landfall. Unfortunately I have to wait for the 2016 so I can get the manual.
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Mar 31, 2015 17:49
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Sigma X posted:Anyone got input on the FiST Recaros? I've been trying to track down one to test-drive, but the closest one is 280 miles away (and in that awful, high-school-cool lime green color). How necessary is the Recaro package? I'm going to chime in too, besides the holding you in place when driving like a madman, they look great and really make the car (to non car people) look way more sporty. I have the molten orange ones, and they can be difficult to keep clean if you wear dark stained blue jeans but some Scotchguard would help with that. I'm kind of chunky 5'8 230lbs and after I broke the seats in they feel pretty good, you just have to lower into them, you can plop onto the bolsters or you'll get nasty creases. If your smaller there's no good reason not to get them.
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Mar 31, 2015 18:13
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BrownieVK posted:If your smaller there's no good reason not to get them. Other than saving yourself like $2000. As a counterpoint, I've taken our FiST on trips from Ohio to Florida, North Carolina, and West Virginia twice and don't have any complaints about the regular cloth seats and they didn't need any sort of break-in to be comfortable. However, I don't autocross the car or anything like that so I don't have much of a need for extra bolstering. If you have similar needs, don't feel bad about saving yourself the cash and skipping the Recaros.
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Mar 31, 2015 18:33
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veedubfreak posted:Dealer called to let me know they had a 15 R. So they're starting to make landfall. Unfortunately I have to wait for the 2016 so I can get the manual. And improved entertainment system.
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Mar 31, 2015 18:49
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I have a FiST with the base seats and I don't slide around when I drive like a jackass. I sink in to them further than it looks like I'd be able to.
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Mar 31, 2015 19:13
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I really dig the Recaros, but they didnt have any FiST in stock with them when I purchased. I had no reason to get them other than looking cool. And with that I can think of a few other mods I would rather have with $2000 than seats.
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Mar 31, 2015 19:29
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AnimalChin posted:Just drove a 2015 maxed Focus ST. 402 package with sunroof. I felt the exact same way almost two years ago now when I compared the two. The focus felt...sloppy compared to the GTI one very respect except the Recaro seats.
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Mar 31, 2015 22:42
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I just brought this home: 2015 GTI Autobahn, Performance Package, Lighting Package, DCC Package, Driver Assist Package (this is loaded). And the most important bit: 
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Apr 1, 2015 03:21
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I've never been in a GTI before. How does the interior compare to a golf r, or regular old golf? I know about the tartan seats, but is it just like a regular golf aside from that, our is it more like the R which seemed really well put together?
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Apr 1, 2015 03:29
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GutBomb posted:I've never been in a GTI before. How does the interior compare to a golf r, or regular old golf? I know about the tartan seats, but is it just like a regular golf aside from that, our is it more like the R which seemed really well put together? I can't speak to a Golf or an R but my GTI feels solid and ... professional? It's super classy and refined, but grippy and racey at the same time. Mine has the autobahn package, so no tartan seats :/ but it does have the killer leather "Top Sport" seats which are like the Recaros in the Focus I drove. They're bolstered all around and hug you in the cockpit.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:14
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AnimalChin posted:I just brought this home: Nice car, though. 'Grats. Enjoy all 220 (230?) HP. How does a turbo 2.0L only have 220 hp? Or am I just spoiled by always looking at Ford's FoST numbers?
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Apr 1, 2015 04:33
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I just signed up for the ST Octane Academy May 8-9th, should be fun.
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Apr 1, 2015 05:38
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mad.radhu posted:I just signed up for the ST Octane Academy May 8-9th, should be fun. You are a week too late. I'll be there on April 30. Also, on the Recaro discussion, there is more in the ST2 package than the seats, but the seats are quite nice. I'm very glad I have the upgraded stereo, it's not as good as my old aftermarket one, but it's good enough that I'm not really tempted to change it out. Also automatic dual zone climate control (which now that I've been using it for a while, I'm sort of spoiled on), the big touch-screen infotainment center thingie.
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Sigma X posted:Anyone got input on the FiST Recaros? I've been trying to track down one to test-drive, but the closest one is 280 miles away (and in that awful, high-school-cool lime green color). How necessary is the Recaro package?
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