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Non-joke answer: Egypt.
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Disinterested posted:Non-joke answer: Egypt. Turkey is also good, and Israel/Palestine has everything from Roman Villas to Monasteries carved out of mountains to the oldest continuously inhabited city in the world, all in a very small area.
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Mar 26, 2015 22:20
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Syria.
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Mar 26, 2015 23:38
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Whatever country has lots of retirement homes.
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Mar 26, 2015 23:55
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Bardo Museum in Tunis has the best mosaics I've ever seen. Been in the news a bit lately, for all the wrong reasons. Actually, any word on damage to the museum? Obviously it pales into insignificance compared to the loss of life, but still, it would be a huge shame.
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Morocco is safe and cheap. edit: Romans were living in Roman cities in Morocco before they were on the island of Britain. Also the sites are better preserved. Teriyaki Hairpiece fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Mar 27, 2015 01:07
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Try Malta. They've got Neolithic standing structures and also some Roman baths a short walk from the beach.
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Mar 27, 2015 01:11
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Oh also come to Chedworth, it's pretty cool and you can ask me about stairs or whatever. Also not too far from Bath, Stonehenge, Avebury and lots of other neat stuff.
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Do you want to know how I got these scars? Mauled by dogs at an archaeological site near Tel Arad. Exercise some caution when touring the Middle East 
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Syria. And Libya. 
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Oberleutnant posted:New Jersey Only if you are looking for corrupt italian mafioso turned politician.
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Dalael posted:Only if you are looking for corrupt Roman senator turned mafioso.
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Fragrag posted:Which countries were the best to visit ancient ruins aside Italy or Greece? The ones on the eastern Adriatic coast such as Croatia, right? I've never been there, but I'm told North Africa has a bunch of Roman cities that are very well preserved.
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Xander77 posted:Do we have some idea as to what the plague that struck Athens was? Sounds a bit like the Black Death to me, but I'm not exactly an expert. It's been variously suggested that the Plague of Athens was bubonic plague, smallpox, anthrax, Ebola, typhoid fever, and so on. A group of US physicians did a study around 2000 and diagnosed it as typhus, but it's been 2500 years, so it's unlikely we'll ever be certain. As for powerful empires invading far-flung but unimportant places at great expense, I don't think it's that outlandish a thought.
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BurningStone posted:I've never been there, but I'm told North Africa has a bunch of Roman cities that are very well preserved. Yeah I don't know how unsafe Libya is now, but Leptis Magna and Cyrene are both awesome looking.
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah I don't know how unsafe Libya is now, but Leptis Magna and Cyrene are both awesome looking. Civil war between a shadowy former Qadafi lieutenant turned CIA asset vs. Muslim brotherhood and mujahadeen. So not super safe.
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Leptis Magna, though. Might be worth it.
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Lewd Mangabey posted:Civil war between a shadowy former Qadafi lieutenant turned CIA asset vs. Muslim brotherhood and mujahadeen. Grand Fromage posted:Leptis Magna, though. Might be worth it. This should go into Grand Fromage's sig.
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Taormina in Sicily actually.
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What's the best preserved Roman city (or structure) in existence?
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Noctis Horrendae posted:What's the best preserved Roman city (or structure) in existence? In many ways, Pompeii and Herculaneum.
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Noctis Horrendae posted:What's the best preserved Roman city (or structure) in existence? If we're talking individual structures, isn't there at least one Roman building in Rome that's still in use today? Specifically I was thinking of the Pantheon. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Noctis Horrendae posted:What's the best preserved Roman city (or structure) in existence? Hagia Sophia. 
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the JJ posted:Hagia Sophia. I wish it was still Christian! It seems almost like a crime against history to convert it from its original religion. Also, yeah, I was thinking the Pantheon too, but not Pompeii.
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Noctis Horrendae posted:I wish it was still Christian! It seems almost like a crime against history to convert it from its original religion. Also, yeah, I was thinking the Pantheon too, but not Pompeii. Eh it's really pretty fitting as a part of history. As a Christian I'd prefer to see something like the original icons in it but considering the number of temples turned into churches etc. It's exactly what you'd expect.
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Noctis Horrendae posted:I wish it was still Christian! It seems almost like a crime against history to convert it from its original religion. Also, yeah, I was thinking the Pantheon too, but not Pompeii. Like the Pantheon was?
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Noctis Horrendae posted:I wish it was still Christian! It seems almost like a crime against history to convert it from its original religion. Also, yeah, I was thinking the Pantheon too, but not Pompeii. It's okay, there was a trade and art history is better for it.
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Yeah individual buildings has a few different options for things that are still in use. Pantheon or Hagia Sophia are equally valid picks I'd say. For things not in active use, hm. The Colosseum is in pretty good shape all things considered. There's a nice arena in France and the Pont du Gard. The House of the Vettii in Pompeii is impressive too. I'd say Herculaneum is the best preserved ruin. Pompeii is more impressive in most ways because of the scale, but Herculaneum was encased in harder material which protected it better. The best ruin that wasn't buried is probably Leptis Magna or Palmyra. Deserts are great for preservation. One of the coolest things they did in Pompeii is at some point an archaeologist realized some of the voids found in the ground were root systems of plants, like the voids that were human bodies. So they filled in a bunch and figured out what plants were there, and all over Pompeii those same plants have been replanted in the same holes from 2000 years ago, giving many of the villas and public areas the exact same greenery that they originally had. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Mar 28, 2015 |
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my dad posted:Would be hilarious if it turns out the Greeks themselves were the Sea People. It was clearly the Koreans
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icantfindaname posted:It was clearly the Koreans Coreans Otherwise they wouldn't be the c people.
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Grand Fromage posted:One of the coolest things they did in Pompeii is at some point an archaeologist realized some of the voids found in the ground were root systems of plants, like the voids that were human bodies. So they filled in a bunch and figured out what plants were there, and all over Pompeii those same plants have been replanted in the same holes from 2000 years ago, giving many of the villas and public areas the exact same greenery that they originally had.
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Grand Fromage posted:One of the coolest things they did in Pompeii is at some point an archaeologist realized some of the voids found in the ground were root systems of plants, like the voids that were human bodies. So they filled in a bunch and figured out what plants were there, and all over Pompeii those same plants have been replanted in the same holes from 2000 years ago, giving many of the villas and public areas the exact same greenery that they originally had. This is really goddamn awesome.
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Tunicate posted:Coreans I love this thread. 
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I went to Jordan last year and that is great for ancient ruins, has a couple of very well preserved Roman Cities, (particularly Jerash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerash ), plus of course Petra of the Nabatean civilisation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra , which was contemporary with then a part of the Roman Empire. Then you have some well preserved Umayyid Mosques, palaces and forts http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/327 and the crusader castles built down the spine of the country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerak_Castle . And Jordanians are the friendliest people and it was just an amazing holiday, so you should go, especially as the Jordanians are suffering due to their neighbourhood
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If most of the historical record from the modern era was lost, what would archaeologists 2,000 years from now be able to tell about the 21st century?
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They loved plastic. In fact everything was made of plastic.
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they would marvel at my porno collection, it would put tiberius to shame
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SlothfulCobra posted:If most of the historical record from the modern era was lost, what would archaeologists 2,000 years from now be able to tell about the 21st century? Glass is chemically inert and a lot of plastic doesn't decay unless it's in sunlight. I think they'd know quite a bit about us.
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Arglebargle III posted:Glass is chemically inert and a lot of plastic doesn't decay unless it's in sunlight. I think they'd know quite a bit about us. Also, as far as I know most of our books and digital media would actually be fairly survivable - contrary to public perception. A cheap paperback will remain readable - albeit quite brittle and faded - for thousands of years as long as it stays dry and out of the sun. Your typical pressed CD will lose data cohesion after a few hundred years, but there'd probably be quite a bit that would be still recoverable to future archaeologists.
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There are DVD/Blu-Ray compatible discs that are composed of thin layers of rock, which are expected to last very very long. http://www.mdisc.com/ They're even readable in several types of normal dvd and blu ray drives.
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