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seriously if you're attacking an indi pretender chassis you should expect some gently caress you unless you are specifically geared to gently caress them.
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This is why you always attack thrones once or twice with scouts to see what the mages are going to cast.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:09
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If it's an air throne don't even bother. It will be pain. Leave it alone. Spring hawks = don't loving touch it. Just don't.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:11
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Mind hunt / assassinate all the commanders, watch the mindless beings melt. Of course that means you need to have the ability to do that.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:41
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Nuclearmonkee posted:If it's an air throne don't even bother. It will be pain. Leave it alone. I've had some success with F9/B9 jags. The fire weapons means ethereal doesn't help, and they are usually durable enough to take one big hit. Though I haven't tried it since the changes to shapeshift. Also, mindhunting and other remote attack spells work pretty well to get them Indie PGs away from their troops. Much less dangerous when they don't have troops in the way to murder.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:53
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For annunaki you can generally expect around a dozen air elementals and a few hundred phantasms to be thrown at you. Titan of heaven seems to favor the old fog warriors + rain of stones these days. This is in addition to the large numbers of spring hawks and whatever other garbage is around. Not very easy to take without significant losses for quite a while.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:57
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Definitely want a few Eyes of the Void to disappear the phantasms. A couple of thugs kitted with shock resistance, a vine shield, and a brand could make good on the Spring Hawks.
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Mar 25, 2015 21:36
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Eschatos posted:This is why you always attack thrones once or twice with scouts to see what the mages are going to cast. I just lost my expander pretender today since I didn't follow this advice 
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Mar 25, 2015 21:44
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Neruz posted:Each Firebird triggers independently and each one has 2 stats. Every Firebird has a 2% chance to generate a random event every turn, and every Firebird has a 2% chance of making any random events that occur in their province good.
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Mar 26, 2015 07:58
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As far as I know there is no maximum number of events per province per turn, if there is a maximum it is more than 9 as 9 is the most I've ever seen in test games. Ergo your math doesn't matter because you have based it on a flawed premise. If there is a maximum I would guess it's probably arbitrarily high, though I guess if someone really wants to they could try putting a few thousand firebirds in a province and see what happens.
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Mar 26, 2015 08:00
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Neruz posted:Ergo your math doesn't matter because illwinter has based dom 4 on a flawed premise.
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Mar 26, 2015 08:02
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gently caress math spam everything remove magic destroy the sinners and purge the unclean pd pd p dp dp dpdpdpdppdppdpdp 
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Mar 26, 2015 08:51
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Marshmallow Trick is a good game. My snake god got killed by hill wizard steve hiding in some slingers on turn 4 and this just popped up in my cap.   minus thirty percent income forever once it gets to cold 3. it's turn 7 btw. Nuclearmonkee fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 26, 2015 13:58
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Kitfox88 posted:gently caress math spam everything remove magic destroy the sinners and purge the unclean pd pd p dp dp dpdpdpdppdppdpdp Ron Paul, King of the Golden Hall, Lord of Wealth, Patron of Libertarianism, has claimed the Austrian Throne.
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Mar 26, 2015 13:58
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Nuclearmonkee posted:
You won a game as Abysia. Now the game has come back for its vengeance.
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Mar 27, 2015 01:33
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Well that definitely confirms that the event limit is arbitrarily high if it exists at all.
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Mar 27, 2015 02:20
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Celestial Rainbow meta?
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Waldmeister has finally ended with a victory for me as TNN! Here are some graphs        I had a fairly quiet early game where i rolled over nearby Xibalba without any effort because poor Xibalba cant really deal with W9 Tuatha warriors, then i took over machaka who tried to warn me off with flaming arrows the same turn i researched arrow fend. I rushed them due to scouting showing Machaka to have little to nothing to fight me on top of the throne of fire which when combined with my water throne made my sacreds incredibly scary + opened up fire as a path for me.  My empire then sort of neatly wrapped around Fomoria who id been friendly with up until that point, i was debating attacking Abysia because the thought of a blood astral power in the lategame wasnt too tempting but both of us had set ourselves up to be impossible to invade with a sort of unofficial NAP, the amount of rivers and mountains between us meant that either attacking side was at a major disadvantage so i just cloud trapezed a shitton of mages into Fomoria.  During this Helheim eventually agreed to try help Fomoria against me but came far too late and we fought a bunch of one sided battles where i killed some queens and then they went AI same as Fomoria.  My eventual expansion into Fomoria, Helheim and Marveni after losing outcrops of Vanheim and Arcosephale.  The Gods of Waldmeister Eventually it was me vs Abysia with a bunch of AIs, i should note that Rlyeh did more or less nothing the entire game and then AI'd out, we only ever fought a single battle 2 turns before i won despite having our capitals within 1 province of each other. Abysia eventually put up astral corruption like i feared and started dispelling my globals, id been mass summoning troops + forging as many things as possible beforehand so this didnt really matter all that much to me. I had fairly large armies spread across the entire world rapidly expanding into AI territory as well as mages loaded up with gems for elemental summons to solo them. With no other players there was no lategame diplomacy and it made the entire affair very quiet with me ignoring horror attacks to simply rushdown thrones that hadnt been taken or were only forted up with palisades. The only worry i had endgame was a former kitfox fort that had maxxed out defences but fortunately i had so many great eagles, wall shakers and gate cleavers that i smashed in the gate the same turn i took the province. Forging artifacts actually turned out to be pretty important for me, key ones were doppelganger amulet to sneak around my dragon and avoid horrors and what thrones i was headed for, sword of injustice for convenient throne capping any place i had a Ri or Sidhe lord and flying boat to get big armies to the thrones as quickly as possible for the seige when AC got up making cloud trapeze a no-no.  The final worldmap.  Yotsuyu Yagiyama wins~ 
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Mar 27, 2015 13:22
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quote:Research is overrated, Kitfox vindicated.
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Mar 27, 2015 23:21
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Turin Turambar posted:Research is overrated, Kitfox vindicated. Given how top heavy research is in dom4 the graph kinda doesnt really show it but i have 9 conj and then 8 in everything but blood so i have more or less all the tools i wanted.
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LordLeckie posted:Given how top heavy research is in dom4 the graph kinda doesnt really show it but i have 9 conj and then 8 in everything but blood so i have more or less all the tools i wanted. Yeah, generally by the end of game, most of your mages should be running around doing poo poo, not doing research. Also someone with level 9 in everything would probably have a flat line in that graph, regardless of how many mages he really has. 
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Mar 28, 2015 00:41
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Libluini posted:Yeah, generally by the end of game, most of your mages should be running around doing poo poo, not doing research. Also someone with level 9 in everything would probably have a flat line in that graph, regardless of how many mages he really has. Yeah Arco maxxed out and funnily enough the AI ended up helping me by hurting an Abysian army a little in the lategame which was a nice suprise.
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Mar 28, 2015 00:50
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What're good tactics for killing Bogus and company? He just took one of my cap circle provinces
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Mar 28, 2015 14:50
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Enjoy posted:What're good tactics for killing Bogus and company? He just took one of my cap circle provinces Enslave them and use their horribly broken commander orders on all your commanders?
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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:Enslave them and use their horribly broken commander orders on all your commanders? The 'right' way is basically just to have some good troops and treat them like a normal really lovely-to-take province which happens to have a flying guy who attacks your commanders in it.
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Mar 28, 2015 17:58
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beat him to the punch and fight him with units that have no eyes in the first place so he can't shoot them out it's simple, really
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Enjoy posted:What're good tactics for killing Bogus and company? He just took one of my cap circle provinces Go AI and let the AI kill him on the next turn with your 100 pikeneers
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Mar 28, 2015 22:28
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What kind of broken orders do they have?
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Harrower posted:What kind of broken orders do they have? fire commander
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Yeah that's pretty broken.
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I don't think you can steal the fire commander order anymore; I recall it being mentioned in patch notes.
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Mar 29, 2015 05:27
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Is it good advice to always go with at least luck 1?
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go with misfortune 3 that's like 120 free points or something
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Luck apparently synergizes very well with Magic, and if I have points left after getting magic+the gold scales I want I'll put bump it up to 1. Otherwise I never touch it.
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Mar 29, 2015 06:37
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luck synergizes well with everything thats not order. the best events come at luck3 death 3
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jsoh posted:luck synergizes well with everything thats not order. the best events come at luck3 death 3 I looked at the events list a while back, and if I'm reading it correctly there's only one good event comes from specifically Luck 3 Death 3. It is a pretty good event though. There's another good one in Death 1 Luck 1, I believe.
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jsoh posted:luck synergizes well with everything thats not order. the best events come at luck3 death 3 D3L3 is probably not worth it ever as a 'stock' choice, unless you're one of the heavy domkill nations (so not Asphodel) who gets a jillion pretender points and needs all the gold and gems it can randomly obtain.
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I just like having 1 luck since it prevents the "province rebelled lol" event.
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