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grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I think I need to pay more attention to the ambient conversations at the bases. I just got to the end of Act 1 on my current playthrough and I'm fairly sure that Iron Bull hosed his way through half of Haven

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Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



cams posted:

but yeah, played a whoooole shitload of characters, I think female elf makes for the best inquisitor in dai. for my super canon opinion, i think female elf mage really fits best with everything that goes on.

yeah you're basically supposed to play a female elf mage and romance Solas

basalt
Jan 11, 2015

Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

yeah you're basically supposed to play a female elf mage and romance Solas
I thought human mage worked quite well, as your personal involvement in the Circle gives you solid reasons to want to put an end to the mage/templar conflict. I just restarted as an elven rogue and despite all the elf-specific content it feels cumbersome already without the mage element, and I can't imagine why my character wouldn't just run back to their clan at the first opportunity. I find rogue by far the most enjoyable from a gameplay perspective, though. The magic skill trees are spread far too thin.

basalt fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Mar 28, 2015

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles
I'm curious, at the start of the game people make a big deal over how it seems unlikely that the Maker would choose you because you're a [non-human/mage]. What do those people say if you're a human warrior/rogue?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

bloodclot posted:

I thought human mage worked quite well, as your personal involvement in the Circle gives you solid reasons to want to put an end to the mage/templar conflict. I just restarted as an elven rogue and despite all the elf-specific content it feels cumbersome already without mage element, and I can't imagine why my character wouldn't just run back to their clan at the first opportunity. I find rogue by far the most enjoyable from a gameplay perspective, though. The magic skill trees are spread far too thin.

Human mage is pretty hilarious considering that you're repeating the greatest evil the Chantry can imagine, but still end up getting nearly worshipped for it as an anti-magister.

Really, the story seems best designed for mages and/or elves.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Geostomp posted:

Really, the story seems best designed for mages and/or elves.

Somewhat ironic, considering Bioware has said that conceptually the Warden is a warrior, Hawke is a mage, and the Inquisitor is in their minds meant to be the rogue of the bunch.

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord

ApplesandOranges posted:

Is his approval high enough? Did you get a cutscene with the two of you getting a drink and him telling a story?

Ah might not be. Not that you can tell!

Eodoin
Dec 3, 2014

Reveilled posted:

I'm curious, at the start of the game people make a big deal over how it seems unlikely that the Maker would choose you because you're a [non-human/mage]. What do those people say if you're a human warrior/rogue?

Complete opposite. Everyone completely believes you were chosen. The Chantry is the only one even upset about it or doubts.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
I played a Qunari mage that converted to Maker worship and it was pretty loving hilarious the whole way through. Cassie and Josie were fully onboard. Vivienne didn't think I understood what I was doing. And every single chantry member that wasn't named Giselle thought I was a walking affront to their church that should be put down like a dog.

And then at the end Sera is just completely flabberghasted that someone who didn't even know what the Maker was a year ago could believe that maybe Mythal was also a god. Cause apparently it doesn't work like that.

Kurieg fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Mar 28, 2015

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Kurieg posted:

I played a Qunari mage that converted to Maker worship and it was pretty loving hilarious the whole way through. Cassie and Josie were fully onboard. Vivienne didn't think I understood what I was doing. And every single chantry member that wasn't named Giselle thought I was a walking affront to their church that should be put down like a dog.

You can get some hilarious moments if you firmly deny the Maker, preferably in favor of the Creators/the Stone. "Well of course I'm not the Herald of Andraste. How can I be the appointed herald of a dead madwoman who spent her life obsessed with a lie? :smug:"

funakupo
May 9, 2006

the ultimate longterm partner
Oven Wrangler
Lotish et al,

BioWare Patch Beta Discussions posted:


End of Patch 6, Patch 7 on the Horizon

For all of you who are currently in the program, you will automatically be entitled for the upcoming beta, should you choose to participate. For those of you who don't, we'll be introducing an unsubscribe feature in the near future which will remove you from the program.

In this next patch, we would like to get more feedback on multiplayer from our testers, and will be encouraging you to group up with your fellow beta players. We'll provide some more information when we can, as well as some specifics on what we changed in the patch and where we'd like you to focus.


so another round of focused testing coming

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Cythereal posted:

Somewhat ironic, considering Bioware has said that conceptually the Warden is a warrior, Hawke is a mage, and the Inquisitor is in their minds meant to be the rogue of the bunch.

Why on earth would the Warden be a warrior when (a)you literally get five party members who are all some kind of warrior, and (b)playing a warrior in DAO is literally the least fun thing you could do :raise:

Hawke being a mage also seems like an afterthought considering Bethany seems to be the canon sibling (I don't even think Carver gets an end-state choice in the Keep) and how relevant being an apostate Hawke should be (and isn't) to the plot, though admittedly that's more of an issue with DA2 in general.

magimix
Dec 31, 2003

MY FAT WAIFU!!! :love:
She's fetish efficient :3:

Nap Ghost
Finally, after chipping away at this game since I got it on release day, I finish my playthrough. 102h30m, which is entirely :psyduck: by my standards. And I thoroughly enjoyed it all the way through, and I look forward to rolling a second character and trying some different things.

Rolled with a human warrior, sword+shield focused. Sure, white bread in RPG terms, but it was nonetheless a fun way to play. Especially when I got my Templar specialisation. Because gently caress mages :argh:

Cool as ice when it suits her; stone-cold bad-arse when it matters :black101:




Edit: Figure I'll roll Qunari on the next run, if only because they look cool.

magimix fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Mar 28, 2015

LeafyGreens
May 9, 2009

the elegant cephalopod

Cythereal posted:

Somewhat ironic, considering Bioware has said that conceptually the Warden is a warrior, Hawke is a mage, and the Inquisitor is in their minds meant to be the rogue of the bunch.

Mage is the right and most interesting choice like everytime though

Foolie
Dec 28, 2013

grack posted:

I think I need to pay more attention to the ambient conversations at the bases. I just got to the end of Act 1 on my current playthrough and I'm fairly sure that Iron Bull hosed his way through half of Haven

I think you stumbled across one of the better parts of the ambient conversation. Ahh chantry sisters.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Wolfsheim posted:

Why on earth would the Warden be a warrior when (a)you literally get five party members who are all some kind of warrior, and (b)playing a warrior in DAO is literally the least fun thing you could do :raise:

Hawke being a mage also seems like an afterthought considering Bethany seems to be the canon sibling (I don't even think Carver gets an end-state choice in the Keep) and how relevant being an apostate Hawke should be (and isn't) to the plot, though admittedly that's more of an issue with DA2 in general.

Warrior is boring, but it does fit the usual image of fantasy hero. Human Noble has the most ties to the plot, as well.

Not that I use either. I prefer human mages in every game. It fits some plot points in Origins (i.e. Who is Jowan and why should you not just gut him on sight and what's going on in Redcliffe and it gives a link to the sequel), it's canon on DAII, and we've gone over Inquisition. Add that to the fact that they're completely broken in the two good games and you see why I like them.

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

Foolie posted:

I think you stumbled across one of the better parts of the ambient conversation. Ahh chantry sisters.

He also details how the titties of serving girls bounce.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Dienes posted:

He also details how the titties of serving girls bounce.

And he lectures Sera about how it's important and just plain courteous to treat women respectfully and not just as disposable sex objects.

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Too bad that Legion armor doesn't have upgrade slots. None of the best looking armor does, actually

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

funakupo posted:

Lotish et al,


so another round of focused testing coming

Thanks.

Saw a tweet that Black Emporium might be released by May.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005
I always saw sarcastic Hawke as a rogue because rogues are witty dicks who don't care about either side in the conflict, they just want to stab things in the back (Like how you kill over half of Kirkwall in DA2).

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord

magimix posted:

Edit: Figure I'll roll Qunari on the next run, if only because they look cool.

Originally I intended to but the hair options are so bad for them.

magimix
Dec 31, 2003

MY FAT WAIFU!!! :love:
She's fetish efficient :3:

Nap Ghost

Carecat posted:

Originally I intended to but the hair options are so bad for them.

They're a bit limited, for sure, but the style I went with works with the nifty horns I also chose. The biggest issue seemed to be that the vast majority of hair *colours* just didn't work at all. So I played it safe with black. Anyway, my Qunari bow-focused Rogue is taking their first steps in the game.

I like the combat mechanics in this game way more than DA1 or DA2, so I've upped things to Hard. We'll see how it goes.

magimix fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Mar 28, 2015

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Thor-Stryker posted:

I always saw sarcastic Hawke as a rogue because rogues are witty dicks who don't care about either side in the conflict, they just want to stab things in the back (Like how you kill over half of Kirkwall in DA2).

Considering Kirkwall killed over half of my family, I think that makes us even. :colbert:

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Cythereal posted:

And he lectures Sera about how it's important and just plain courteous to treat women respectfully and not just as disposable sex objects.

Speaking of the creepy little self-hating elf, Sera gets off on killing dragons. Like *really* gets off.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Cythereal posted:

Somewhat ironic, considering Bioware has said that conceptually the Warden is a warrior, Hawke is a mage, and the Inquisitor is in their minds meant to be the rogue of the bunch.

Then Bioware can go gently caress themselves because Hawke is clearly a rogue, the Warden is a mage and the Inquisitor is an elf.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?
I've gone with mage for all three. After I had a mage Warden (which is the best origin I think) and a mage Hawke I couldn't see why I should change up.

So on that note, if I was to want to do a rogue inquisitor, having only played mage in the past, is it worth replaying 2 as a rogue to get a feel for it? (for what it's worth, I enjoyed 2 and want to replay it at some point, since romancing Anders and rivaling Fenris made me feel bad and I'd like to try the opposite).

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

HIJK posted:

Then Bioware can go gently caress themselves because Hawke is clearly a rogue, the Warden is a mage and the Inquisitor is an elf.

One of these things is not like the other.

eating only apples posted:

I've gone with mage for all three. After I had a mage Warden (which is the best origin I think) and a mage Hawke I couldn't see why I should change up.

So on that note, if I was to want to do a rogue inquisitor, having only played mage in the past, is it worth replaying 2 as a rogue to get a feel for it? (for what it's worth, I enjoyed 2 and want to replay it at some point, since romancing Anders and rivaling Fenris made me feel bad and I'd like to try the opposite).

DA2 Rogue plays a little differently from DAI Rogue, although the fundaemntals are the same. That said DA2 Rogue is pretty enjoyable, you get quick melee-close ins as daggers and explosions and rains of arrows as Archery.

ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Mar 28, 2015

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

ApplesandOranges posted:

One of these things is not like the other.

That's.....the joke m8........................

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

ApplesandOranges posted:

DA2 Rogue plays a little differently from DAI Rogue, although the fundaemntals are the same. That said DA2 Rogue is pretty enjoyable, you get quick melee-close ins as daggers and explosions and rains of arrows as Archery.

I think I'd go daggers because Varric's great and gently caress Sebastian in all possible ways. I didn't manage to make him hate me so I sort of want him around for my next game to get him firmly in the rival camp. Although I also lost Isabela post-Act 2 and I'll want to try and keep her for my second go.

It was a good time, by some decision at the last possible moment I got her friendship high enough that she left (because I hadn't done her Questioning Beliefs) but I still had her passive bonus for the rest of the game. Isabela's got your back! (but she is not here).

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
Dagger rogues are also tons of fun to play in DA2, albeit a bit ridiculous. They kill things fast enough that the endless waves of enemies become much less of a hassle.

So, I'm kind of new to PSN, and I'm annoyed by this early access thing. Is there any word on when we can expect to get the DLC? I want to play through it with my current elf PC, but I'm right near end-game and would like to finish up sooner than later.

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

dee
doot doot dee
doot doot doot
doot doot dee
dee doot doot
doot doot dee
dee doot doot


College Slice

grack posted:

Speaking of the creepy little self-hating elf, Sera gets off on killing dragons. Like *really* gets off.

Iron Bull literally yells at a dragon that he will masturbate thinking about killing it.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

Crow Jane posted:

Dagger rogues are also tons of fun to play in DA2, albeit a bit ridiculous. They kill things fast enough that the endless waves of enemies become much less of a hassle.

So, I'm kind of new to PSN, and I'm annoyed by this early access thing. Is there any word on when we can expect to get the DLC? I want to play through it with my current elf PC, but I'm right near end-game and would like to finish up sooner than later.

I'm in the same place on PS4, the only big things I have left to do is a dragon and the last mission. Also worried I might be overlevelled for the final boss, let alone the DLC. I'm level 23 or so. Not sure whether to finish it and do the DLC on another character, or hang around and do it with my current inquisitor, who is as far as I'm concerned the canon one (female elf mage romancing Solas) and the one who I'll carry over to future games. If it's a week I'll do it with her. If it's a month I'll maybe replay DA2 in the meantime and start a new guy, if I don't do a post-endgame one with my main inquisitor (Solas is a big part of my team but I guess I can go without)

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

eating only apples posted:

I'm in the same place on PS4, the only big things I have left to do is a dragon and the last mission. Also worried I might be overlevelled for the final boss, let alone the DLC. I'm level 23 or so.

Consider the final boss was a cakewalk at Level 18 and playing on Hard, I'd say so. Admittedly this was with my entire team kitted out in gear with constant guard/barriers, though.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Dienes posted:

Iron Bull literally yells at a dragon that he will masturbate thinking about killing it.

:geno: 2. [Drink]

Wolfsheim posted:

Consider the final boss was a cakewalk at Level 18 and playing on Hard, I'd say so. Admittedly this was with my entire team kitted out in gear with constant guard/barriers, though.

Barrier spam and Guard On Hit trivialize so many things. The only thing that can down my mage is something that can combo a control and then burst damage her. Anything less is in for a world of pain.

Since posting Inquisitors is en vogue, here's my Lavellan, in Inquisition Dress Reds.

Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts was hella fun, but that might be my love for intrigue stories showing.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Cythereal posted:

Somewhat ironic, considering Bioware has said that conceptually the Warden is a warrior, Hawke is a mage, and the Inquisitor is in their minds meant to be the rogue of the bunch.

That's bizarre, because the Warden had a lot of extra side-stuff for rogues in particular. I would have thought they were the rogue to match with Alistair the warrior and Morrigan the mage.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Warmachine posted:

Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts was hella fun, but that might be my love for intrigue stories showing.
cool i'll call you next time i get to that quest and you can do it for me

i think i've done it 3 times and it is the biggest thing that keeps me from doing different playthroughs

Barvo
Feb 19, 2008

by Ralp
New DLC is pretty legit, and it's nice to see warrior armor that doesn't look like totally unprotective poo poo

Why do the highest tier non-DLC battlemaster armor schematics omit the underlying scale (or whatever) armor? The master one you get from the lvl 23 dragon or wherever is the only good looking one that's got some oomph.

Miss Mowcher
Jul 24, 2007

Ribbit
I started playing this game when it came out but had to stop because of college stuff, so, I'll restart now. Did they ever fix the banter bugs ? Any great changes in the patchs ?

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magimix
Dec 31, 2003

MY FAT WAIFU!!! :love:
She's fetish efficient :3:

Nap Ghost
Bah! Sometimes I wish I didn't care about how my characters look in RPGs. I get 6 hours into it with a Qunari Rogue when I finally decide that *no*, I'm not happy with how they look. So I torch that character, I try an Elf instead. Cue 4 or 5 cycles of re-playing through the opening scenes, trying different things, and cursing the fact that faces I make that look good in the editor usually look crappy in game :argh:

But I think i have it now :stare:

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