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So I was looking into reading Birds of Prey, and fortunately Comixology provides a nice preview of most things they sell because it let me see that the dialogue in the first issue sucked, and it was drawn by loving Greg Land. Is there a time the series gets good, or is it a lost cause?
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Wendell posted:So I was looking into reading Birds of Prey, and fortunately Comixology provides a nice preview of most things they sell because it let me see that the dialogue in the first issue sucked, and it was drawn by loving Greg Land. Is there a time the series gets good, or is it a lost cause? If I recall correctly, Land's work on Birds of Prey (the earlier Chuck Dixon stuff) was very decent, not the porn tracing that he's infamous for today. Butch Guice also contributed a lot of the art during Dixon's early 2000s run, and it was a solid book. Phil Noto started making a name for himself with some striking covers for Birds of Prey as well. Then Gail Simone took the book over, and I still liked what I read of it (although I've never read the entire Dixon/Simone series, keep that in mind). Ed Benes' art was really cheesecakey in a J. Scott Campbell sort of way, but I didn't really mind it.
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Mar 21, 2015 14:24
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Wendell posted:So I was looking into reading Birds of Prey, and fortunately Comixology provides a nice preview of most things they sell because it let me see that the dialogue in the first issue sucked, and it was drawn by loving Greg Land. Is there a time the series gets good, or is it a lost cause? The version of the team most people think of is the Simone run. Be aware, if you don't like her other work, you won't like her BoP because it's got the same themes.
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Mar 21, 2015 23:59
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Wendell posted:So I was looking into reading Birds of Prey, and fortunately Comixology provides a nice preview of most things they sell because it let me see that the dialogue in the first issue sucked, and it was drawn by loving Greg Land. Is there a time the series gets good, or is it a lost cause? Black Canary/Oracle: Birds of Prey (beautiful Gary Frank art) Showcase '96 #3 (Lois joins for a hot second) Birds of Prey: Manhunt #1-4 Birds of Prey: Revolution Birds of Prey: Wolves Birds of Prey: Batgirl Birds of Prey: The Ravens THEN, the series starts. But all of the formation of the team and hiccups that exist therein take place in those titles. I think it's a cool series, in both the Dixon and Simone flavors. Land is actually really good and this was when he actually took the time to draw. redbackground fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 04:47
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Completely new to comics here, and willing to take a jump down this (I assume) insane rabbit hole and money sink. I stopped by a comic shop the other day to pick up a gift and leafed through a few books (volumes rather than thin comic books) like Prophet and Saga. The art looked fantastic, but as for good stories I have no idea where to start. What should I be picking up/looking in to if I am not overly interested in DC/Marvel? I already checked out ComiXology and have an account set up, so I am ready to go digital.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:44
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Ragequit posted:Completely new to comics here, and willing to take a jump down this (I assume) insane rabbit hole and money sink. I stopped by a comic shop the other day to pick up a gift and leafed through a few books (volumes rather than thin comic books) like Prophet and Saga. The art looked fantastic, but as for good stories I have no idea where to start. What should I be picking up/looking in to if I am not overly interested in DC/Marvel? I already checked out ComiXology and have an account set up, so I am ready to go digital.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:46
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redbackground posted:What are your favorite genres? Fantasty/Sci-fi generally, when it comes to reading books. Kickin' rad dudes/girls doing kickin' rad things. I am not opposed to DC/Marvel characters. I just haven't been exposed to the new stuff past Spiderman/Batman/Superman.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:49
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Ragequit posted:Completely new to comics here, and willing to take a jump down this (I assume) insane rabbit hole and money sink. I stopped by a comic shop the other day to pick up a gift and leafed through a few books (volumes rather than thin comic books) like Prophet and Saga. The art looked fantastic, but as for good stories I have no idea where to start. What should I be picking up/looking in to if I am not overly interested in DC/Marvel? I already checked out ComiXology and have an account set up, so I am ready to go digital. Saga's a really good one. What genres and themes are you interested in? That might help folks out. I'm always going to recommend Sweet Tooth, by Jeff Lemire. Trilium, Underwater Welder and Essex County are other books by him outside of DC/Marvel that are real good reads. Southern Bastards, by Jason Aaron and Jason Latour, is another good read in my opinion. Edit: I'm going to second the East of West recommendation down there if you like interesting worldbuilding. A Tin Of Beans fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 18:49
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Ragequit posted:Completely new to comics here, and willing to take a jump down this (I assume) insane rabbit hole and money sink. I stopped by a comic shop the other day to pick up a gift and leafed through a few books (volumes rather than thin comic books) like Prophet and Saga. The art looked fantastic, but as for good stories I have no idea where to start. What should I be picking up/looking in to if I am not overly interested in DC/Marvel? I already checked out ComiXology and have an account set up, so I am ready to go digital. It'd be good to hear a few things like movies/novels/TV that you like, so we can get an idea of what you're into. Comics are way more a medium than a specific genre, so knowing what you like will get you better recommendations.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:50
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Ragequit posted:Fantasty/Sci-fi generally, when it comes to reading books. Kickin' rad dudes/girls doing kickin' rad things. I am not opposed to DC/Marvel characters. I just haven't been exposed to the new stuff past Spiderman/Batman/Superman. I would also recommend Saga, just start at #1! Another thing you might like is East of West by Hickman & Dragotta. It's a sci-fi western featuring one of the four horseman rebelling and generally shooting a bunch of people in the face.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:53
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Gaz-L posted:It'd be good to hear a few things like movies/novels/TV that you like, so we can get an idea of what you're into. Comics are way more a medium than a specific genre, so knowing what you like will get you better recommendations. I really like Brian Sanderson's stuff. Currently reading Legion (the second one) which is fantastic. I read the Berserk manga a few years back which I really enjoyed as well. Anything that has a unique fantasy world sounds interesting to me. It sounds like Saga might fight the bill there.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:55
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Ragequit posted:Fantasty/Sci-fi generally, when it comes to reading books. Kickin' rad dudes/girls doing kickin' rad things. I am not opposed to DC/Marvel characters. I just haven't been exposed to the new stuff past Spiderman/Batman/Superman. A list in no particular order: Battling Boy by Paul Pope Y: The Last Man and Saga by BKV Glory by Keatinge/Campbell Casanova by Fraction/Moon/Ba All-Star Superman by Morrison/Quitely East of West by Hickman/Dragotta Scott Pilgrim by BLOM Fear Agent by Remender Sex Criminals by Fraction/Chip Z redbackground fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 19:00
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For Sci-Fi, Image has been knocking it out of the park lately. You've already looked at Saga, keep going with that. Bitch Planet is only a few issues deep right now, it's the future, the patriarchy is all encompassing and women are sent to a special prison called Bitch Planet. It's a mix of 70's sexploitation and sci-fi dystopia with wonderful art. East of West is a post apocalyptic alternate history sci-fi western following Death, the horseman of the Apocalypse as he sets himself against the other three horsemen and plays the divided factions of what used to the USA against each other. Copperhead follows a single mom who's taken a sheriff's position on a distant planet. She has to deal with conniving politicians, a deputy that resents being passed over for the position because he's an alien and her own biases. Rat Queens is a balls out D&D crazytime adventure. The adventuring party is portrayed as the sociopathic thrill seekers that every D&D party pretty much is. It's vulgar and funny and endearing all at the same time. The Badassed Panels thread has some pages in the OP and more are scattered throughout the Funny Panels thread. I know there's a bunch I'm forgetting that I'll kick myself for when someone else posts them, but these are four good series. Aside from BP, all of them have trades out, although you're going digital so that may not be a priority.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:00
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Senor Candle posted:I would also recommend Saga, just start at #1! Another thing you might like is East of West by Hickman & Dragotta. It's a sci-fi western featuring one of the four horseman rebelling and generally shooting a bunch of people in the face. Just looked up some images of this, and it looks great. Thanks for the great recommendations everyone. I think I have a solid starting point for now. Edit: Also looks like there have been a few Image sales at ComiXology in the past, so I can probably grab a ton of Saga, Rat Queens, East of West issues then. Ragequit fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mar 23, 2015 19:02
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Ragequit posted:Fantasty/Sci-fi generally, when it comes to reading books. Kickin' rad dudes/girls doing kickin' rad things. I am not opposed to DC/Marvel characters. I just haven't been exposed to the new stuff past Spiderman/Batman/Superman. Madman and Red Rocket 7.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:06
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bobkatt013 posted:Madman and Red Rocket 7.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:24
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Endless Mike posted:Would you even recommend these if someone said their favorite comic ever was Avengers #200? No then it would be the crossing, Civil War Frontline, Lodbell's DC work, Grounded and Austin's X-men run.
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Mar 23, 2015 19:29
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Ragequit posted:Fantasty/Sci-fi generally, when it comes to reading books. Kickin' rad dudes/girls doing kickin' rad things. I am not opposed to DC/Marvel characters. I just haven't been exposed to the new stuff past Spiderman/Batman/Superman. redbackground posted:Scott Pilgrim by BLOM 
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Kickin' rad dudes/girls doing kickin' rad things.
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Mar 26, 2015 21:22
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Yeah what is your prob with Scott Pilgrim?
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Mar 26, 2015 21:23
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I really like Scott Pilgrim, but I wouldn't recommend it to someone who said they were looking for some sci-fi or fantasy comics. There are some fantastical elements to it, sure, but it's predominantly a slice-of-life work.
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Mar 26, 2015 21:31
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Ragequit can let me know if it was a terrible recommendation, but I'm not sorry for tossing the best action-romance-comedy-drama comic out there his way as a wildcard option.
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Mar 26, 2015 21:49
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Seconds is the O'Malley comic with a heavier fantasy focus, btw.
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Mar 26, 2015 23:06
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Eh, most of his work leans into a magical-realism style, where the world is mostly normal, bar one thing that shunts the protagonist a few feet off-centre.
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Mar 26, 2015 23:44
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Senor Candle posted:Yeah what is your prob with Scott Pilgrim? Do you want to know what my problem with it is? 
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Ragequit posted:Completely new to comics here, and willing to take a jump down this (I assume) insane rabbit hole and money sink. I stopped by a comic shop the other day to pick up a gift and leafed through a few books (volumes rather than thin comic books) like Prophet and Saga. The art looked fantastic, but as for good stories I have no idea where to start. What should I be picking up/looking in to if I am not overly interested in DC/Marvel? I already checked out ComiXology and have an account set up, so I am ready to go digital. People have recommended Saga but if you liked the look of the art and like Fantasty/Sci-fi give Prophet a go. Starts off as Space Conan. It's real good. Just be aware that it is a "continuation" of a goofy old 90's superhero comic (as is Glory that was also recommended). That's why it starts at issue #20 something rather than #1 (although as you'll be getting a collected book of the single issues you'll want the first one of that). It does its own thing and you defiantly don't need to have read the old stories, I and probably most people didn't, but every now and then it'll mention a name or something from them. No biggie. Although when I was first starting to read them I thought a robot called Diehard was sneakily meant to be John McClane. EDIT: Thread, recommend me Acid Westerns. Think, El Topo. I have read Pretty Deadly. Ruptured Yakety Sax fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Mar 27, 2015 04:34
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Goatmask posted:EDIT: edit: maybe Infinite Kung-Fu. Zachack fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Mar 27, 2015 05:21
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Lurdiak posted:Do you want to know what my problem with it is? No I remember your posts about it!
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This is more of a DC Nerd Western, but Justice Riders is a fairly straightforward western featuring much of Justice League International filling trope roles, with J.H. Williams III's art absolutely slaying every page. It's $2 on Comixology for 60-odd pages of a slowly building showdown that pays off in many ways by the end. vvv It's one strong shot, hope you enjoy it! vvv Space Fish fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Mar 27, 2015 16:26
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Goatmask posted:People have recommended Saga but if you liked the look of the art and like Fantasty/Sci-fi give Prophet a go. Starts off as Space Conan. It's real good. Thanks for that info. I was wondering why it didn't start with #1. Space Fish posted:This is more of a DC Nerd Western, but Justice Riders is a fairly straightforward western featuring much of Justice League International filling trope roles, with J.H. Williams III's art absolutely slaying every page. It's a one off thing? For $2 I may as well make it my very first comic purchase.
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Mar 27, 2015 16:49
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Space Fish posted:This is more of a DC Nerd Western, but Justice Riders is a fairly straightforward western featuring much of Justice League International filling trope roles, with J.H. Williams III's art absolutely slaying every page. Only $2? May as well try it and Space Fish posted:J.H. Williams III :agifofsomeonecelebratingI'mnotgoingtolookoneup: Thanks, I'll give it a go. Zachack posted:East of West. Maybe Preacher. The Dark Tower comics seem pretty ok, at least the first two volumes, and since you've read the knockoff version you may as well read the source. East Of West is good stuff. By The Dark Tower you mean the Stephen King stuff? I haven't read it but Pretty Deadly is a knockoff of that, or at least very similar? From my limited understanding that doesn't sound right. Edit: I'm thinking there might be some Modius colletction or something that has what I'm after? Only read The Incal. Ruptured Yakety Sax fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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Mar 29, 2015 01:11
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Goatmask posted:Only $2? May as well try it and I wouldn't call PrettyDeadly a knockoff of Dark Tower, but they both mix magical weirdness and Westerns.
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Mar 29, 2015 07:50
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Pretty Deadly is nothing like The Dark Tower, Multiversity is more of a knock off than Pretty Deadly. Pretty Deadly's first book just retains some of the western tone of it's original pitch.
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Mar 29, 2015 13:35
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Ragequit posted:Fantasty/Sci-fi generally, when it comes to reading books. Kickin' rad dudes/girls doing kickin' rad things. Thorgal:  The Metabarons: 
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Waterhaul posted:Pretty Deadly is nothing like The Dark Tower, Multiversity is more of a knock off than Pretty Deadly. Pretty Deadly's first book just retains some of the western tone of it's original pitch. The first few issues of PD that I read felt like KSD was trying to copy King's (and the comic's) goofy speaking style where everyone tries to sound prophetic/mystic, and I consider that style a major component of the Dark Tower comics. PD imo read like KSD read Dark Tower (and maybe Sandman) and chose to cater to the kind of reader who says/posts things like "sai" and "thankee" or whatever, and then did so really poorly. Rios single-handedly drags the book up to "ok" territory, much like how Lee pulls PAD's Dark Tower (which presumably has less wiggle room in writing) to "bit better than ok". I think Hickman also kinda apes that style in East of West but tones it a bit down and the whole book revolves around prophecies, so it works a lot better, and in doing so makes PD read worse.
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Goatmask posted:Edit: I'm thinking there might be some Moebius colletction or something that has what I'm after? Only read The Incal. On the sorta-plus side if you get enough into them you'll eventually get to read Steranko adapting the movie Outland (it's a space remake of High Noon) into a comic. Downside is that it's really wordy and from what I've read is almost a storyboard adaptation.
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So I have been mostly clean of comics sense Secret Invasion. But the Darth Vader comic pulled me off the wagon and now I am filling out pull list and picking up previous issues. Is there anything I need to pre-read for the big secret invasion event? I have absolutely no idea what is going on in the marvel universe besides the Falcon is Captain America. I really enjoyed the illuminati stuff and mini series. I know that Black Panther got them back together, is there a comic centered around them or are they just mentioned off hand in a few panels? Is there a Punisher comic and is it any good? I loved Punisher MAX but I didn't enjoy the watered down Punisher War Journal that came after it.
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Mappo posted:SoI really enjoyed the illuminati stuff and mini series. I know that Black Panther got them back together, is there a comic centered around them or are they just mentioned off hand in a few panels? Avengers and New Avengers by Hickman.
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Mappo posted:So I have been mostly clean of comics sense Secret Invasion. But the Darth Vader comic pulled me off the wagon and now I am filling out pull list and picking up previous issues. quote:I really enjoyed the illuminati stuff and mini series. I know that Black Panther got them back together, is there a comic centered around them or are they just mentioned off hand in a few panels? quote:Is there a Punisher comic and is it any good? I loved Punisher MAX but I didn't enjoy the watered down Punisher War Journal that came after it.
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Mappo posted:So I have been mostly clean of comics sense Secret Invasion. But the Darth Vader comic pulled me off the wagon and now I am filling out pull list and picking up previous issues. Jason Aaron's Star Wars comic is pretty fun. John Cassaday is finally back putting some effort into his work too, and he's on until #6. Hickman's Avengers and New Avengers runs are the comics that inform the upcoming Secret Wars. It's also chock-full of Illuminati and Black Panther (New Avengers, specifically, but you need both.) Garth Ennis has a new Punisher mini coming out soon detailing Frank's first TOD in Nam, which should be great.
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