Skyrim Modding: Just Spent 10 Hours Modding, Time to Play

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Synthwave Crusader: Feb 13, 2011

Legendary Edition is on sale right now at GMG for 13 bucks. Yes it's a Steam key (you can only get Steam versions of the game) :siren:

Any of you who are missing the DLC, get LE and never worry about missing out on great mods.

# ? Mar 28, 2015 23:05

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 20:18

axolotl farmer: May 17, 2007; Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

I bought Skyrim with all DLC on Steam a couple of years ago, but it wasn't called the Legendary Edition.

Is there stuff in there that isn't in the DLC?

bethsoft.com posted:

Winner of more than 200 Game of the Year awards, experience the complete Skyrim collection with The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim� Legendary Edition. The Legendary Edition includes the original critically-acclaimed game, official add-ons � Dawnguard�, Hearthfire�, and Dragonborn� � and added features like combat cameras, mounted combat, Legendary difficulty mode for hardcore players, and Legendary skills � enabling you to master every perk and level up your skills infinitely.

That just sounds like stuff that came with the official patches.

# ? Mar 28, 2015 23:17

That Ignorant Sap: Nov 20, 2010; YOU AIN'T LOOKIN' AT A
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Mr.Grit posted:

Also, anyone know of a mod that changes the 'deceiving the herd' radiant quest for Dawnguard? It's poo poo. I've pretty much quit going to the castle because of it. :p

No mod, but you could try opening the console and entering "setstage DLC1RV03 255" after starting that quest.

# ? Mar 28, 2015 23:48

Raygereio: Nov 12, 2012

axolotl farmer posted:

I bought Skyrim with all DLC on Steam a couple of years ago, but it wasn't called the Legendary Edition.
Is there stuff in there that isn't in the DLC?

Nope. The Legendary Edition is your standard Gold/GOTY style release with all DLC packaged with the base game. The "added features" from the descriptions is indeed stuff that was indeed through patching.

# ? Mar 28, 2015 23:52

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

Welp, CTDs right when I try to enter the destroyed keep in the intro and any save loading causes a CTD too. This will be fun to figure out.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 04:36

Duck and burger: Jul 21, 2006; Never a greater duo

I'm doing a SPERG unarmed run with Violens and Unarmed Various Actions, and I keep getting armed killmoves on everything. Whaaat.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 04:57

ephphatha: Dec 18, 2009

Pretty sure sperg auto-equips a dummy "unarmed" weapon so that perks apply properly, which might be loving with the way one of the other mods works.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 05:13

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

For some reason trying to get a log with the Papyrus config edit isn't working. It can play what's loaded no problem but it crashes when it tries to load an area.

Big issues for now are that

race menu constantly creates an overwrite file
Dual Sheath redux patch refuses to run in MO. It says it needs the realistic needs and desires .esp but I have it enabled.

Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Mar 29, 2015

# ? Mar 29, 2015 05:19

Kilroy: Oct 1, 2000

Bouchacha posted:

Jaxonz Positioner

That won't fix the bug. There is no fix for it afaik.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 05:22

Everything Burrito: Jun 2, 2011; I Failed At Anime 2022

Kilroy posted:

That won't fix the bug. There is no fix for it afaik.

No but if you drop an item, make a copy of it, then place and lock down the copy instead of the one you dropped out of your inventory it won't wander.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 06:38

Danakir: Feb 10, 2014

Scyantific posted:

Legendary Edition is on sale right now at GMG for 13 bucks. Yes it's a Steam key (you can only get Steam versions of the game)

Any of you who are missing the DLC, get LE and never worry about missing out on great mods.

If I buy this, download the DLCs along with the unofficial patches for them� how worried should I be that it'll gently caress up my already modded game? I've been wanting to try the DLCs for a while now but I've hold off on it because I'm afraid I'd have to start over with the modding process from scratch. Something I really don't look forward to.

Edit: If it helps, my mod list is actually very short. The only large mods I have are the unofficial patches, the HD texture DLCs, Frostfall, Immersive Armors with the Sperg compatibility patch, Sperg, the guard dialogue overhaul and Random Alternate Start.

Danakir fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Mar 29, 2015

# ? Mar 29, 2015 13:58

Raygereio: Nov 12, 2012

Danakir posted:

If I buy this, download the DLCs along with the unofficial patches for them� how worried should I be that it'll gently caress up my already modded game? I've been wanting to try the DLCs for a while now but I've hold off on it because I'm afraid I'd have to start over with the modding process from scratch. Something I really don't look forward to.

Edit: If it helps, my mod list is actually very short. The only large mods I have are the unofficial patches, the HD texture DLCs, Frostfall, Immersive Armors with the Sperg compatibility patch, Sperg, the guard dialogue overhaul and Random Alternate Start.

The DLC are designed so that they can be added to an ongoing game without any problem. The unofficial patches for the DLC can also be added just fine. They do include some fixes that only work on a new game, but that's a minor issue.
What you should pay careful attention at are the various DLC-compatibility patches for the mods you're using. I doubt added any of them will require a restart though.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 16:04

Danakir: Feb 10, 2014

Thanks a lot, I just wanted to confirm that it wouldn't be a problem. I went through my mod list and didn't see any compatibility patches in any of the descriptions or documentation. So I should be good to go!

While I'm at it, any really essential mods beside the unofficial patches I should look into for the DLCs?

Danakir fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 29, 2015

# ? Mar 29, 2015 17:18

seorin: May 23, 2005; 2 Sun's Dusk (Day 78)
Of the Seven Visions of Seven Trials of the Incarnate, I have now fulfilled the Fifth Trial.

Ephphatha posted:

Pretty sure sperg auto-equips a dummy "unarmed" weapon so that perks apply properly, which might be loving with the way one of the other mods works.

This, and some of the kill cam calculations are a bit odd to say the least. In testing, there was a bug (that never made it to release) where every attack was a kill cam. I don't remember the exact details, but it had something to do with one of the invisible perks that adjust unarmed damage to scale with skill. The unarmed weapon itself is a bit odd in that the weapon damage is something like 1, but it gets ignored by the engine and your character's unarmed damage is used instead. However, critical damage and power attack damage are still based off of weapon damage. To fix this, I needed to scale weapon damage with unarmed damage, but simply putting a perk that multiplied weapon damage (1) by unarmed damage triggered the "kill cam on every attack" thing. It's like the engine thought I should be doing unarmed * unarmed instead of unarmed * 1, and even though the actual damage dealt was normal, the kill cam activated on that much higher value.

I forget how I worked around that, but it still might be a starting point in figuring out why the hell that combo of mods has triggered that behavior again.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 19:24

Inverness: Feb 4, 2009; Fully configurable personal assistant.

Scyantific posted:

Legendary Edition is on sale right now at GMG for 13 bucks. Yes it's a Steam key (you can only get Steam versions of the game)

Any of you who are missing the DLC, get LE and never worry about missing out on great mods.

I never bothered to purchase Hearthfire.

I'm not really interested in housing beyond "where can I throw my extra poo poo?"

# ? Mar 29, 2015 19:43

Danakir: Feb 10, 2014

I've read a few reports that When Vampires Attack can be pretty messy and lead to some rather obnoxious bugs with the fleeing NPCs. Is that still the case with the latest version? If so, is there any decent alternative to it as I'd prefer if installing Dawnguard didn't come with half the population of Skyrim dying to random vampire attacks. So far that's the only thing I've found that I'd really rather do without.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 20:20

Raygereio: Nov 12, 2012

Danakir posted:

I've read a few reports that When Vampires Attack can be pretty messy and lead to some rather obnoxious bugs with the fleeing NPCs. Is that still the case with the latest version?

I never ran into that problem. Looking at the various loadorders from people who post about that problem, my guess would be that that's either some sort of incompatibility issue with another mod, script slowdown from a broken mod, or people not realizing a certain other mod (Wet & Cold) has a feature that has NPCs staying indoors during bad weather.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 20:34

Gorgar: Dec 2, 2012

Raygereio posted:

I never ran into that problem. Looking at the various loadorders from people who post about that problem, my guess would be that that's either some sort of incompatibility issue with another mod, script slowdown from a broken mod, or people not realizing a certain other mod (Wet & Cold) has a feature that has NPCs staying indoors during bad weather.

Might have been one of the first two, but I have never run Wet and Cold, Frostfall, etc. I did find some mod that protects named NPCs as an alternative.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 20:59

GunnerJ: Aug 1, 2005; Do you think this is funny?

Someone in here also posted a mod that straight up disables in-town vampire attacks.

# ? Mar 29, 2015 21:07

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Raygereio posted:

I never ran into that problem. Looking at the various loadorders from people who post about that problem, my guess would be that that's either some sort of incompatibility issue with another mod, script slowdown from a broken mod, or people not realizing a certain other mod (Wet & Cold) has a feature that has NPCs staying indoors during bad weather.

I didn't run any mods that had conflicts with it as far as I know, but after I kept getting the bug I just switched to the mod that disables vampire attacks. After the fifth or so time any quest in Solitude grinds to a halt because everyone's hiding indoors forever it gets kind of tiring.

# ? Mar 30, 2015 16:36

Danakir: Feb 10, 2014

Don't think I really want to risk it then. May I have a link to the mod that just disables those attacks please? I doubt they add much to the game anyway.

# ? Mar 30, 2015 16:41

Travic: May 27, 2007; Getting nowhere fast

I'm pretty far in my current playthrough and I'm enjoying all the mods. The only mod I'm not really liking is MorrowLoot and I'm thinking of replacing it with Morrowloot 4E so I can make the rarer stuff. Will either removing Morrowloot or replacing it screw anything up?

Travic fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Mar 31, 2015

# ? Mar 30, 2015 20:03

Lurker Above: Jun 17, 2014

Danakir posted:

Don't think I really want to risk it then. May I have a link to the mod that just disables those attacks please? I doubt they add much to the game anyway.

Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled
A definite improvement in my book.

# ? Mar 31, 2015 04:49

Duck and burger: Jul 21, 2006; Never a greater duo

seorin posted:

This, and some of the kill cam calculations are a bit odd to say the least. In testing, there was a bug (that never made it to release) where every attack was a kill cam. I don't remember the exact details, but it had something to do with one of the invisible perks that adjust unarmed damage to scale with skill. The unarmed weapon itself is a bit odd in that the weapon damage is something like 1, but it gets ignored by the engine and your character's unarmed damage is used instead. However, critical damage and power attack damage are still based off of weapon damage. To fix this, I needed to scale weapon damage with unarmed damage, but simply putting a perk that multiplied weapon damage (1) by unarmed damage triggered the "kill cam on every attack" thing. It's like the engine thought I should be doing unarmed * unarmed instead of unarmed * 1, and even though the actual damage dealt was normal, the kill cam activated on that much higher value.

I forget how I worked around that, but it still might be a starting point in figuring out why the hell that combo of mods has triggered that behavior again.

I'm pretty sure it's just SPERG that's loving it up but yeah, I get kill cams all the gd time.

So I have a merged plugin M of plugins A, B, and C, and then I have another standalone plugin D that references plugin B as master. That won't work. Is there a way I can simply tell plugin D that plugin M is the new master, rather than merge it into plugin M also?

# ? Apr 1, 2015 06:08

Nerd Of Prey: Aug 10, 2002

For April Fool's day I've released ULTIMATE LAUNDRY OVERHAUL.

For good measure, I've set the real version of Immersive Laundry to hidden, with the reason "NO LONGER SUPPORTED!"

The only thing in the actual download is this large gif, which should look familiar to fans of Kroll Show.

I recommend perusing the image gallery to check out some of my "renamed" areas.

# ? Apr 1, 2015 07:35

axolotl farmer: May 17, 2007; Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

it is awsome :allears:

# ? Apr 1, 2015 07:53

Gyshall: Feb 24, 2009; Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.

Nerd Of Prey posted:

The only thing in the actual download is this large gif, which should look familiar to fans of Kroll Show.

What is the meaning of this?????

# ? Apr 1, 2015 15:28

axolotl farmer: May 17, 2007; Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

I actually want the laundry covered Dragonsreach mod.

# ? Apr 1, 2015 16:34

Parachute: May 18, 2003

Gyshall posted:

What is the meaning of this?????

Welcome to Hell, idiot.

# ? Apr 1, 2015 17:05

Ynglaur: Oct 9, 2013; The Malta Conference, anyone?

Nerd Of Prey posted:

For April Fool's day I've released ULTIMATE LAUNDRY OVERHAUL.

For good measure, I've set the real version of Immersive Laundry to hidden, with the reason "NO LONGER SUPPORTED!"

The only thing in the actual download is this large gif, which should look familiar to fans of Kroll Show.

I recommend perusing the image gallery to check out some of my "renamed" areas.

Endorsed. Let's goonrush this thing and see if we can get it on the front page.

# ? Apr 1, 2015 17:34

GunnerJ: Aug 1, 2005; Do you think this is funny?

Question about this:

Scyantific posted:

Using the SKSE Memory Fix (Useful for fixing Infinite Loading Screens and CTDs) (Credit to LtSmash)
Infinite loading screens can also be fixed by using the SKSE memory allocation fix that adjusts how much memory skyrim reserves to fix a bug where it hangs trying to request more memory. This is a default part of SKSE for the last few versions and everyone should use it. If you don't have a skyrim\Data\SKSE\skse.ini create one in notepad.
Add the lines
code:
[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=X
ScrapHeapSizeMB=Y
And replace X with how much ram to allocate. 512 is vanilla. 768 should fix it for most setups but really crazy mod combinations might need 1024. This of course uses more RAM.

Is there any other downside to using 1024 besides using more RAM? I am thinking that a number of my issues could be solved by upping this and I feel that 8 GB of RAM will be fine for this but idk.

# ? Apr 1, 2015 17:36

axolotl farmer: May 17, 2007; Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Are bound bows ridiculously overpowered? I'm using SPERG, but no other balancing/fight mechanics mods.

I'm at level 45, archery 90, and can take down dragons in 4-5 shots.

# ? Apr 3, 2015 05:17

LtSmash: Dec 18, 2005; Will we next create false gods to rule over us? How proud we have become, and how blind.

-Sister Miriam Godwinson,
"We Must Dissent"

GunnerJ posted:

Question about this:

Is there any other downside to using 1024 besides using more RAM? I am thinking that a number of my issues could be solved by upping this and I feel that 8 GB of RAM will be fine for this but idk.

Only that you will use more RAM.

# ? Apr 3, 2015 08:15

SurreptitiousMuffin: Mar 21, 2010

I'm having issues with CTD on startup, and I'm pretty sure it's a load order problem. tried to install TES5Edit to figure it out, but for some reason WinRar is refusing to unpack it. Does anybody know what's going wrong here?

# ? Apr 3, 2015 10:46

Danaru: Jun 5, 2012; 何 ??

CTD on startup usually means something is getting loaded before another mod that it needs to run, grab LOOT and give it a run. It'll automatically sort it out for you.

# ? Apr 3, 2015 10:50

SurreptitiousMuffin: Mar 21, 2010

LOOT installed, load order modified aaand ...

still crashing.

# ? Apr 3, 2015 11:08

Danaru: Jun 5, 2012; 何 ??

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

LOOT installed, load order modified aaand ...

still crashing.

Uh oh, that means you probably straight up don't have a mod that another one requires, and the only way to check is that program you can't open. Maybe try opening the rar with 7zip? I don't recognize most of the mods on the list, so I can't be much help there.

# ? Apr 3, 2015 11:24

SurreptitiousMuffin: Mar 21, 2010

I turned them all off, then went back through reactivating. It was Winter Is Coming. That sucks, because those cloaks look great.

# ? Apr 3, 2015 11:50

GunnerJ: Aug 1, 2005; Do you think this is funny?

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I turned them all off, then went back through reactivating. It was Winter Is Coming. That sucks, because those cloaks look great.

It is bizarre that such a lightweight mod could to this. Are you using another mod that changes up equipment (i.e., Complete Crafting Overhaul)? It may require some compatibility patching.

Maybe just try reinstalling WiC, I have never, ever seen anything like this happen with it.

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 20:18

GunnerJ: Aug 1, 2005; Do you think this is funny?

LtSmash posted:

Only that you will use more RAM.

Thanks!

Unrelated (?) questions for the thread: Since getting my new video card, there's a lot of strange stuff happening. (It's a Radeon R9 285, bought largely because of price point.) Most annoyingly, there's screen tearing even when v-sync is on. Which doesn't make any sense.

Also, using FRAPS for benchmarking, it looks like performance is even worse even though this is supposedly a big upgrade from my old card. But only technically... The numbers say that the FPS is slightly less with more jittering (based on standard deviation) but I don't notice it in game. It actually seems smoother somehow.

Finally, anybody know how a skyrim.ini or skyrimprefs.ini change can make arrows do less damage? I tried using the automatically-generated settings for a bit and this inexplicably happened. I went back to the only settings for a very minor FPS bump and this no longer happened.

# ? Apr 3, 2015 14:12

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