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Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)
Event Horizon is a fine movie, but I find it unrealistic that noone at any stage of the design process looked at each other and said "Hey, we're building an evil spaceship. What's up with that?"

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

LoonShia posted:

Event Horizon is a fine movie, but I find it unrealistic that noone at any stage of the design process looked at each other and said "Hey, we're building an evil spaceship. What's up with that?"

people build evil poo poo all the drat time

Kramjacks
Jul 5, 2007

A group of weapons designers pore the blueprints of their latest cluster-bomb, one of them looks up. "Is this evil?".

Edit: A group of Arby's food designers pore the blueprints of their latest sandwich, one of them looks up. "Is this evil?".

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Lord of War is a fine movie, but I find it weird that during the design process of the AK47, nobody looked at each other and said "hey, we're building a machine designed to blow holes in people until they bleed out and die, what's up with that?"

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
It was presumably built by engineers, who I can only assume had a conversation somewhere along the lines of "wait, we can go places faster by taking a shortcut through Hell? AWESOME!"

I can't even really say they're wrong!

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
Shopping is still W.S.'s best film.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

LoonShia posted:

Event Horizon is a fine movie, but I find it unrealistic that noone at any stage of the design process looked at each other and said "Hey, we're building an evil spaceship. What's up with that?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

Kramjacks posted:

A group of weapons designers pore the blueprints of their latest cluster-bomb, one of them looks up. "Is this evil?".

Edit: A group of Arby's food designers pore the blueprints of their latest sandwich, one of them looks up. "Is this evil?".

They sell gyros now so yeah

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

K. Waste posted:

Shopping is still W.S.'s best film.

I haven't seen Shopping but Mortal Kombat's one of the best movies of the '90s so I find this hard to believe

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

LoonShia posted:

Event Horizon is a fine movie, but I find it unrealistic that noone at any stage of the design process looked at each other and said "Hey, we're building an evil spaceship. What's up with that?"

Wasn't its becoming-evilness due to the unforseen "turns out we go through literal hell every time we use the engine" thing?

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

FishBulb posted:

They sell gyros now so yeah
Well it's been nice knowing you folks but I think I'm going to end my life now. So long!

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

best movies of 1995:

1. Showgirls
2. Mortal Kombat
3. Seven
4. Casino
5. Lord of Illusions
6. Strange Days
7. To Die For
8. Dead Presidents
9. Gamera: Guardian of the Universe
10. Clockers

rad year.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Lurdiak posted:

Being so violently corrupt for so long is finally catching up to it.

I can't loving believe greco-roman wrestling is no longer an Olympic sport, though. What the gently caress.

Wrestling is still in the Olympics, they reversed the decision a few months later. It was basically a political stunt by the IOC to put pressure on FILA.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Mortal Kombat fuckin oooooowns. It's just a dumb little cheesy action movie but it's completely and utterly unapologetic about it, the fights are all surprisingly brutal and well-done (that black guy who gets his ribcage crushed by Liu Kang :eyepop:), the aesthetic is extremely well-realized, the soundtrack kicks rear end, and it doesn't overstay its welcome at all. It's also got some really, really good dialogue in it, surprisingly.

I have a soft spot for Annihilation, because I was the biggest MK fanboy as a little kid, but god drat that is not a good movie.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

best movies of 1995:

1. Showgirls
2. Mortal Kombat
3. Seven
4. Casino
5. Lord of Illusions
6. Strange Days
7. To Die For
8. Dead Presidents
9. Gamera: Guardian of the Universe
10. Clockers

rad year.

Where do you fall on Dead Man and Welcome to the Dollhouse?

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

TrixRabbi posted:

Where do you fall on Dead Man and Welcome to the Dollhouse?

completely forgot about Dead Man, that one's definitely got a spot in the top 10. it's been forever since I've seen Welcome to the Dollhouse, but I don't recall caring for it.

I could put together a top 10 runners up for 95 that's just as strong, though. very solid year, especially for genre flicks. we even got 2 really good kaiju movies (Gamera and Godzilla vs. Destroyah)

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

best movies of 1995:

1. Showgirls
2. Mortal Kombat
3. Seven
4. Casino
5. Lord of Illusions
6. Strange Days
7. To Die For
8. Dead Presidents
9. Gamera: Guardian of the Universe
10. Clockers

Lord of Illusions or To Die For over Heat? Shameful.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

best movies of 1995:

1. Showgirls
2. Mortal Kombat
3. Seven
4. Casino
5. Lord of Illusions
6. Strange Days
7. To Die For
8. Dead Presidents
9. Gamera: Guardian of the Universe
10. Clockers

rad year.

I feel like Leaving Las Vegas could be argued for.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Timby posted:

Lord of Illusions or To Die For over Heat? Shameful.

Heat's pretty okay for a movie that's about 90 minutes too long

Mechafunkzilla posted:

I feel like Leaving Las Vegas could be argued for.

i need to rewatch it but you're absolutely right

other signs 1995 was an uncommonly good year: i haven't even mentioned Braveheart yet, and i loving love Braveheart

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
I've only seen 20 films from 1995 and, yeah, in general, that was a pretty rad year. I think my tentative top five is something like
1) Your Studio and You
2) Multi-Facial
3) Fallen Angels
4) Kids
5) 12 Monkeys

It's also fitting that the same year should have two of my favorite short films ever. Both Trey Parker/Matt Stone's Your Studio and You and Vin Diesel's Multi-Facial are seriously great.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
1995 also had Seven, Babe, and The Brady Bunch.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
When are Bowling for Soup gonna come out of de facto retirement to record their new single "1995"?

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

CopywrightMMXI posted:

1995 also had Seven, Babe, and The Brady Bunch.

i mentioned Seven but good call on the other two

edit:

LORD OF BUTT posted:

Mortal Kombat fuckin oooooowns. It's just a dumb little cheesy action movie but it's completely and utterly unapologetic about it, the fights are all surprisingly brutal and well-done (that black guy who gets his ribcage crushed by Liu Kang :eyepop:), the aesthetic is extremely well-realized, the soundtrack kicks rear end, and it doesn't overstay its welcome at all. It's also got some really, really good dialogue in it, surprisingly.

I have a soft spot for Annihilation, because I was the biggest MK fanboy as a little kid, but god drat that is not a good movie.

goin back to this for a minute, another thing Mortal Kombat has going for it is a great slate of villains. Shang Tsung, Kano, and Goro are all extremely fun bad guys in very different ways. Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa seriously rules.

double edit:

Wikipedia posted:

Tagawa was the filmmakers' first and only choice for the role; he was instantly selected after he came to his audition in costume, and read his lines while standing on a chair.[2]

fuckin' dooooooooooooooope

Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Mar 29, 2015

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Showgirls is pretty good, but is it truly better than A Goofy Movie?

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I would legitimately go to bat for MK as one of the best action movies of the last 20 years

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

LORD OF BUTT posted:

I would legitimately go to bat for MK as one of the best action movies of the last 20 years

at the very least it's both Paul W.S. Anderson's best and the best video game movie ever made (not that either of these are tremendously high bars to clear, but still)

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Am I wrong to think that the end of AI is the most cynical, nihilistic, cruel ending possible if the rest of the movie is about Haley Joel Osmet developing consciousness and emotion? Wouldn't a normal movie have him grow enough to get over his love for a mother who doesn't deserve it, or have him acknowledge that his parents were flawed people and he can now grow and be his own person in an amazing outer-space future? Instead it's like he's just a simulation of consciousness who fooled everyone and can only be satisfied by a simulation of his dead mother giving him an artificial version of the love she withheld in reality because he's programmed to only want the signs of love and to not care that it's not actually his mother. Like, those robots just straight-up told him that they could make his desires flesh, but his whole problem was that his desires weren't possible.

Did I misread the end of the movie? I wasn't really paying attention until the last act, but it seems like maybe Spielberg kept Kubrick's story but his soft-headed sentimentalism made him think it was a happy ending?

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Jack Gladney posted:

Did I misread the end of the movie? I wasn't really paying attention until the last act, but it seems like maybe Spielberg kept Kubrick's story but his soft-headed sentimentalism made him think it was a happy ending?

I think that's exactly what happened, although probably more of a "deliberately directed it that way" and less "somehow didn't notice."

The real question (to me, at least) is how cynical were his reasons for doing it.

e: Alternatively, there are only two ways to write a story about someone who's stuck being a child forever, and the other way is exemplified by Interview with a Vampire.

Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 29, 2015

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

A.I. is a weird loving movie. i go back and forth a lot on whether i actually like that one. definitely too long, though.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
At least it isn't Bicentennial Man.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

i don't even think it's bad. it's just... challenging. maybe Spielberg's most challenging movie.

getting back to the question of the ending, i didn't always feel this way, but i've come to think it's definitely tragedy and it's definitely deliberate. it kinda feels like Spielberg acknowledging the falsehood of a lot of the happy endings in his films, and of a lot of happy endings in general. i think maybe taking on a Kubrick scenario kinda forced him to be self-critical (not to mention atypically downbeat)

Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Mar 29, 2015

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Lord of Illusion and Scott Bakula is great, Mortal Kombat was awesome and a blast as a kid, Event Horizon had a great atmosphere and aura of dread. All three rock.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

i'm glad people are coming around to Lord of Illusions and Mortal Kombat. those two haven't exactly had sterling reputations over the past 20 years.

ditto Face/Off, which i'm rewatching now.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.
On the other hand, I don't understand why people like Nightbreed so much. It's just a big convoluted mess that goes nowhere.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

There's lots of cool monsters and it looks pretty.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

CPL593H posted:

On the other hand, I don't understand why people like Nightbreed so much. It's just a big convoluted mess that goes nowhere.

i agree with the big convoluted mess part but i still love that movie. it's just such a crazy, wildly ambitious segue from '80s horror into '90s horror.

Barker wanted to make the Star Wars of horror. i think in a way he succeeded. people just weren't ready. now that the director's cut had that splashy rerelease, i could see it finding a following with the Neil Gaiman crowd.

Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Mar 29, 2015

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

i agree with the big convoluted mess part but i still love that movie. it's just such a crazy, wildly ambitious segue from '80s horror into '90s horror.

Barker wanted to make the Star Wars of horror. i think in a way he succeeded. people just weren't ready.

I agree that it was extremely ambitious, but it just seems like it builds up to nothing. David Cronenberg was really good in it.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

CPL593H posted:

I agree that it was extremely ambitious, but it just seems like it builds up to nothing.

and again, you're not wrong. the reason he couldn't really make the Star Wars of horror like he wanted is that nobody in 1990 was gonna throw a Star Wars budget at a weird, gory horror movie, not even by the guy who had such a smash hit with Hellraiser.

fake edit: actually, it appears that Nightbreed had the exact same budget as Star Wars, with $11 million. but, y'know, 1990s dollars, not 1977 dollars.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Lord of War is a fine movie, but I find it weird that during the design process of the AK47, nobody looked at each other and said "hey, we're building a machine designed to blow holes in people until they bleed out and die, what's up with that?"

That's a really poor choice for that analogy.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Wrestling is still in the Olympics, they reversed the decision a few months later. It was basically a political stunt by the IOC to put pressure on FILA.

I was going to say.

LORD OF BUTT posted:

Mortal Kombat fuckin oooooowns. It's just a dumb little cheesy action movie but it's completely and utterly unapologetic about it, the fights are all surprisingly brutal and well-done (that black guy who gets his ribcage crushed by Liu Kang :eyepop:), the aesthetic is extremely well-realized, the soundtrack kicks rear end, and it doesn't overstay its welcome at all. It's also got some really, really good dialogue in it, surprisingly.

I have a soft spot for Annihilation, because I was the biggest MK fanboy as a little kid, but god drat that is not a good movie.

I was also gonna say the best thing about the MK movie is how you never notice there's no blood in it.

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