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So are we just dropping the whole Gravitonium plot thread until Skye's powers are ridiculous enough to reasonably take on Graviton?
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Chokes McGee posted:Gonna go out on a limb here and say that Bobbi is a triple agent. Infiltration and acting is totally Mockingbird's poo poo and the only person in the Marvel Universe better than her at it is Widow. I imagine she's going to be all MY COVER'S BEEN BLOWN PHIL WE HAVE TO GET TO HUNTER Then why would coulson and may need to find out what Mack is up to?
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Mar 28, 2015 07:48
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Bobbi's working for Fury not Coulson.
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Mar 28, 2015 07:57
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swickles posted:Fitz is an interesting case as far as character development goes. Pre-brain damage, in season 1, Fitz was mostly a source of comedic relief. Sarcasm, naivete, and a cheeky accent all made the show a bit lighter. Then he gets brain damage and for a while has trouble even communicating basic thoughts. Obviously he has gotten better, but he is no longer a source of that light heartedness that helped the first season (at least the 2nd half). Now, he seems to be the moral grounding force for the team. The Koenig's took over for the fun stuff for a bit, but we haven't seen them since the hiatus. I like Fitz, but I want to see him toss out more jokes, or at least start to be sarcastic again for some injection of humor. I used to gripe about something with the Season 1 cast: The redundancy. May and Ward were both "Expert Combat People." Fitz and Simmons were both "Expert Science People." .. which let Coulson and Sky as the entire rest of the original group. It felt like 4 characters split into 6. However now, it's clear why they did this; shattering Fitz & Simmons and sending them in reverse directions from such a similar starting point is pretty cool, and not only did May move up from being "expert combat person" to add "Second in Command" to her resume, but Ward.. well we all know what happened there. Honestly while I think the majority of season 1 was pretty eh, it really does help that they established a "daily grind" before tearing it all down in the long run and every all the lackluster characters/story of the week stuff ended up actually having a pay off, which is incredibly rare for a show like this. Honestly I think I'd have more fun watching the first season a second time than I did initially, given how they wove all the episodic stuff back in. But I still think it was a huge mistake not to make some of this more apparent at the start; most people I've mentioned the show's improvement to refuse to believe it. Chakram posted:So are we just dropping the whole Gravitonium plot thread until Skye's powers are ridiculous enough to reasonably take on Graviton? It just occurred to me that Earthquake powers were very smart for another reason beyond story: You don't need a huge budget to rattle the camera and shake some pots & pans, which is what 99% of it is. The occasional fancy CGI burst is just a cherry on top with them. I bet it costs far, far less effects wise for Skye to use her powers than the teleporting inhuman to use his. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Mar 28, 2015 |
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Chakram posted:So are we just dropping the whole Gravitonium plot thread until Skye's powers are ridiculous enough to reasonably take on Graviton? I'm fine with not having Graviton around. Graviton is a weird villain, because he is ridiculously OP, and can take down most superhero teams without breaking a sweat, but he doesn't have some over-arching scheme like world domination. He's just kind of a creepy dude with superpowers that can't really be beaten, just talked down from his latest crazy plan. thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Mar 28, 2015 |
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Mar 28, 2015 09:14
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thrakkorzog posted:I'm fine with not having Graviton around. Graviton is a weird villain, because he is ridiculously OP, and can take down most superhero teams without breaking a sweat, but he doesn't have some over-arching scheme like world domination. He's just kind of a creepy dude with superpowers that can't really be beaten, just talked down from his latest crazy plan. Between the recent D-list villain team-up, everything involving Ward post-twist, and Blizzard's painfully ambiguous "death," that seems perfectly comic booky enough for this show.
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Mar 28, 2015 10:01
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Bobbi's working for Fury not Coulson. Working for Fury pretending to be working for Coulson pretending to be Real SHIELD. It's all a plot to get his own toolbox back. Coulson's finally going to be like "You could've just asked for me for it!" and after a moment of silence Fury will go, "Huh. Yeah, guess so."
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Mar 28, 2015 17:32
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Chokes McGee posted:Working for Fury pretending to be working for Coulson pretending to be Real SHIELD. I can totally see that hapening, too. Probably no more than a few episodes before Age Of Ultron comes out.
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Chokes McGee posted:Working for Fury pretending to be working for Coulson pretending to be Real SHIELD And at the beginning she was pretending to work for Hydra in addition to all of that. Though to go full Comic Books you'd need to have Stark mixed in there somewhere too.
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Wait, are we up to sextuple-agent for Bobbi at this point in the theory?
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thrakkorzog posted:I'm fine with not having Graviton around. Graviton is a weird villain, because he is ridiculously OP, and can take down most superhero teams without breaking a sweat, but he doesn't have some over-arching scheme like world domination. He's just kind of a creepy dude with superpowers that can't really be beaten, just talked down from his latest crazy plan. I just read about him on Wikipedia and am kind of going "What the gently caress?" Gravity powers. OK, I get that - very powerful, and I can see how it would screw a lot of heroes over... but apparently this has also made him completely immortal and able to grow 50 feet tall? Even by comic standards his power set is horrendously madlibs. I really hope if they bring him back on the show, they stick to immense gravity-centered powers. It really seems easy enough to make him an absolutely credible threat with all that other tacked on trash.
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Mar 28, 2015 19:52
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I just want the Graviton from the Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon. 
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Mar 28, 2015 19:58
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The Red Queen posted:Wait, are we up to sextuple-agent for Bobbi at this point in the theory? She's secretly working for Galactus
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Well, the immortality and size thing can make sense if you just hand-wave it as him using his powers to distort space-time. It's no dumber than Magneto's magnetic personality.
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Mar 28, 2015 20:02
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Or his ability to cure brain damage because of the iron in someone's blood, to use an example from the last twenty years
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Where did we land on making a Daredevil thread? Is someone doing it? Or are we going to keep Marvel chat to this thread for now? I could post one up if no one else is.
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Mar 29, 2015 14:10
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ctrl + f "Doctor Who" and you'll find it.
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Mar 29, 2015 14:21
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I would be cool with talking Daredevil here and making this the Marvel Television thread if Netflix had a standard release schedule but since they will just dump the whole season out there at once it should probably have is own thread.
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Mar 29, 2015 14:27
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I would have sworn that someone already made a "Marvel Netflix Shows" or "Netflix Daredevil" thread, with provisional spoiler rules that tags should be used for the first week after they hit netflix (because not everyone will marathon the whole thing the night they are released and might want to discuss things that come up halfway through the season without seeing spoilers for the finale and so on). I vaguely remember a mod indicating that if that worked well it would become the new policy for any netflix show where the whole thing is released at once. Seemed reasonable to me, a nice medium between "Everything is a spoiler if I havent seen it so stop loving discussing it" and "Nothing is a spoiler, gently caress you if you didnt stay up all night getting to the end of the season". So either that thread exists and its just not on the first 3 pages (as far back as I could be arsed looking) or I'm gettng confused with a discussion someone had about starting such a thread, or I just had a really banal dream about someone starting a daredevil thread and none of that was ever said.
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Mar 29, 2015 15:24
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Finding forum threads is really hard you guys  http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3705666
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Mar 29, 2015 15:25
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Wait the search function works now?! In any case that takes care of that; thanks for sorting it out for the lazy sods like me!
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Seems this needs to be spoiler tagged... Looks like Lucy Lawless will be back on AoS this week. I'm guessing it's going to be a flashback, but then again, we never got hard, visual confirmation that she died, and this is a show based on comic books, so... Kheldarn fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 29, 2015 23:16
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Good spoiler, thanks.
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GreenNight posted:Good spoiler, thanks. Casting poo poo has been fair game for literally ever I'm pretty sure, settle down Francis.
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Mar 30, 2015 01:10
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Yeah, except when a character is coming back from death, but alright.
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GreenNight posted:Good spoiler, thanks. If you go read a forum thread regarding an on-going show, you have to expect spoilers.
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Mar 30, 2015 01:14
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that tweet has single handedly ruined the rest of the season for me, sorry
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GreenNight posted:Yeah, except when a character is coming back from death, but alright. That being said, it's a comic book show. If we didn't see the body ground into a fine paste and set on fire, it's not shocking when they turn out to be alive.
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R.E.A.L.S.H.I.E.L.D. made reference to Izzy's death too, right? So likely she's still dead and either it'll be a flashback or Lawless will be playing Izzy's sister who was mentioned a couple of times in the first two episodes.
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Slugworth posted:Except we don't know that's what's happening. As said, it could just as easily be a flashback. Yep. Example of a perm-death: 
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enraged_camel posted:Yep. Example of a perm-death: I forgot how gory that was. He gibbs big time.
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TV-PG, family friendly, kids choice awards!
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Whether or not it may be a flashback or coming back from the dead, bringing up a character returning after they've gone out of the show in that manner without spoiler tags is against TV IV's rules. It could potentially be a spoiler. So it's not an ill-conceived notion to expect following the rules, even if it is a comic thread too.
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twistedmentat posted:I forgot how gory that was. He gibbs big time. My favorite part is the shot of Coulson afterwards where he gets his sweet one-liner in before calmly walking away, as two dead SHIELD agents that Garret killed are just lying there like 5 feet away from him.
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enraged_camel posted:Yep. Example of a perm-death: You can clearly see examples of genetic material surviving that explosion, not permanent enough in a comic book world IMO.
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I'm not sure if I want BullSHIELD to stick around or be wrapped up, but I'm glad it looks like they're going to stop being an unknown entity what with Hunter escaping and Bobbi going for a 6 hour smash-and-grab.
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Pan Dulce posted:Whether or not it may be a flashback or coming back from the dead, bringing up a character returning after they've gone out of the show in that manner without spoiler tags is against TV IV's rules. It could potentially be a spoiler. So it's not an ill-conceived notion to expect following the rules, even if it is a comic thread too. Yeah guys, don't trigger anyone. TV, like the Internet, is Serious Business.
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In arrow people posted about Tommy and Moira and Sarah all guest starring despite them being dear and no one cared. Because just cause someone is guest starring doesn't actually mean anything narratively.
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To be fair, how many times has Sarah died and come back at this point?
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I bet she comes back again before the end of the season, then gets on a boat which immediately explodes. She is weak against boats, you see.
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