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magimix posted:Bah! Sometimes I wish I didn't care about how my characters look in RPGs. I get 6 hours into it with a Qunari Rogue when I finally decide that *no*, I'm not happy with how they look. So I torch that character, I try an Elf instead. Cue 4 or 5 cycles of re-playing through the opening scenes, trying different things, and cursing the fact that faces I make that look good in the editor usually look crappy in game I had that happen with my elf mage. Looked great in the editor, and then in the game looked like a rouged whore. Unrelated note, just finished What Pride Hath Wrought for the first time. Who in their right mind would let Morrigan drink from the well? She openly lies to you about it, may not know anything about it, tears off on her own abandoning you to elves to access it, and comes up with a million reasons why she should have the power but it'll be cool, she'll owe you one. I didn't want my Inquisitor to drink from it but ended up doing it just to keep it from Morrigan. Also, I'm kind of disappointed. I imported game states from all my friend's games, or I thought I did, but Morrigan doesn't have the creepy kid I was told to look out for.
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Dienes posted:I had that happen with my elf mage. Looked great in the editor, and then in the game looked like a rouged whore. One of the reasons I was so glad ME2 and ME3 did the facecode thing. I could let other, more talented people come up with cool looking characters. Dienes posted:Also, I'm kind of disappointed. I imported game states from all my friend's games, or I thought I did, but Morrigan doesn't have the creepy kid I was told to look out for. It has been sufficiently long since I played DA1 that I just assumed that Morrigan having a son was a given. 
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Mar 29, 2015 14:53
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magimix posted:It has been sufficiently long since I played DA1 that I just assumed that Morrigan having a son was a given. My friend made it sound like the decision impacted if he was a normal kid, or 'really creepy.'
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Mar 29, 2015 15:06
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Dienes posted:My friend made it sound like the decision impacted if he was a normal kid, or 'really creepy.' Nope, if no one slept with Morrigan in DAO then there's no kid in DAI.
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Mar 29, 2015 16:06
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Dienes posted:Who in their right mind would let Morrigan drink from the well? . I made the "mistake" of bringing cass with me and she had a bit of an emotional "please don't loving do this" moment. So yeah, kind of let her. Turned out for the best though!
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Mar 29, 2015 17:47
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Dienes posted:My friend made it sound like the decision impacted if he was a normal kid, or 'really creepy.' If the inquisitor romanced morrigan but didn't perform the ritual, she has a normal kid. If you did have someone perform the ritual he's a godkid. There's actually a nice conversation between Alistair and Morrigan if you had Alistair perform the ritual which can be somewhat undermined by him standing right there.
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Mar 29, 2015 18:13
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It was discussed earlier but the well is really the point where you can tell they ran out of time/money to actually make the game interesting. It feels like there should be way more story content after that but it just ends. The fact that destroying the well is brought up as an option but is not actually presented to the player is dumb as poo poo.
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Mar 29, 2015 18:20
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Dienes posted:I had that happen with my elf mage. Looked great in the editor, and then in the game looked like a rouged whore.
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Mar 29, 2015 18:26
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Speaking of which, after the Well I hope the next main quest explains why my Inquisitor randomly start glowing blue and then a glowing blue spirit appeared who didn't do anything because it was random and went totally ignored.
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Mar 29, 2015 18:37
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I let Morrigan drink from the well because my Inquisitor is elfy enough to realize messing with the gods' power is a really terrible idea with awful monkey's paw consequences down the road. And there was Cullen to think of. So Morrigan got what she wanted and I'm relatively safe from accidentally nuking the world or something.
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Mar 29, 2015 18:41
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Carecat posted:Speaking of which, after the Well I hope the next main quest explains why my Inquisitor randomly start glowing blue and then a glowing blue spirit appeared who didn't do anything because it was random and went totally ignored. If you have Arcane Lore, you can flat-out tell Morrigan what's up with the Well and why drinking from it is probably a terrible idea: whoever takes the Well's power is bound to Mythal, body and soul. Once you take the Well, you belong to Mythal and your will is no longer your own if Mythal does not wish it.
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Mar 29, 2015 18:43
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Cythereal posted:Somewhat ironic, considering Bioware has said that conceptually the Warden is a warrior, Hawke is a mage, and the Inquisitor is in their minds meant to be the rogue of the bunch. I can totally see the Warden was supposed to be a human warrior. I can almost see Hawke is supposed to be a mage, but I agree with whoever said sarcastic rogue fits the best. The Inquisitor should be a mage, and probably an Elf. That being said I've only played DAO as a dagger rogue, and then DA2 and DAI as both dagger rogues and a mages. Playing as a warrior seems like it would be boring as gently caress. Also, re: mage Hawke the one playthrough I did where my world state had a mage Hawke and I also sacrificed him in the Fade, I had to laugh when they used the same animation with the staff that they used for a sword. Like he was just slashing away at the nightmare demon instead of using magic.
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I let Morrigan have the well because the second someone in a story says "____ can't touch me, they're dead", said person is almost certainly not dead. Especially in a game where the main villain was literally killed in the last game. The moment she said that there might as well have been a giant flashing caption saying DRAMATIC IRONY DRAMATIC IRONY, and immediately I knew that taking the well myself wouldn't be the best of ideas.
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Mar 29, 2015 22:27
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HIJK posted:I let Morrigan drink from the well because my Inquisitor is elfy enough to realize messing with the gods' power is a really terrible idea with awful monkey's paw consequences down the road. And there was Cullen to think of. So Morrigan got what she wanted and I'm relatively safe from accidentally nuking the world or something. Honestly if you're elfy enough I could see a lifelong geas in service to one of your gods being more of a duty than a burden but what do I know, I'm just a 3D alien
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Mar 30, 2015 00:46
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:Honestly if you're elfy enough I could see a lifelong geas in service to one of your gods being more of a duty than a burden but what do I know, I'm just a 3D alien Maybe for someone else but I had my pet shem back at Skyhold. Since my Dalish wasn't interested in being a broodsow for a dying race, she's embracing change and running the gently caress away from anything that could stop her from living her own life at the speed of light.
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Mar 30, 2015 01:39
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HIJK posted:Maybe for someone else but I had my pet shem back at Skyhold. Since my Dalish wasn't interested in being a broodsow for a dying race, she's embracing change and running the gently caress away from anything that could stop her from living her own life at the speed of light. Mine took the standpoint of "Y'know, Solas was probably right the whole way through this place about the ancient elven gods being dicks." Would have happily destroyed the thing if she'd had the choice.
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Mar 30, 2015 01:54
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HIJK posted:I let Morrigan drink from the well because my Inquisitor is elfy enough to realize messing with the gods' power is a really terrible idea with awful monkey's paw consequences down the road. And there was Cullen to think of. So Morrigan got what she wanted and I'm relatively safe from accidentally nuking the world or something. My inquisitor doesn't even believe in the Maker, so it was easy to disregard threats of being mind controlled by an ancient Elf deity, particularly when the deity was described as murdered earlier on. I do wish we had the option of leaving it or destroying it, though.
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Mar 30, 2015 02:36
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I rationalized it as an elf by thinking "Leaving this alone would've been the best option but we can't do that anymore because Corypheus is here, destroying it would be an affront to ~my people~, someone had better drink this and it sounds like there are going to be serious consequences, gently caress it, go crazy Morrigan I ain't touching that poo poo"
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Mar 30, 2015 06:34
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I took the Well for the extra dragon fight. Also to piss off Morrigan
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grack posted:I took the Well for the extra dragon fight. This. Everyone's convinced you're gonna owe your life to a god, but my skeptic Inquis was like "Psh, it's probably a mistranslation of some dumb bullshit anyways, chug-a-lug bitches!" and then nothing loving happens and the god you owe your life to gets owned by Solas anyway.
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Wasabi the J posted:This. Everyone's convinced you're gonna owe your life to a god, but my skeptic Inquis was like "Psh, it's probably a mistranslation of some dumb bullshit anyways, chug-a-lug bitches!" and then nothing loving happens and the god you owe your life to gets owned by Solas anyway. I don't know if being enslaved by Solas is much better than being enslaved by Mythal/Flemeth.
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Torrannor posted:I don't know if being enslaved by Solas is much better than being enslaved by Mythal/Flemeth. Yeah but I can whip his bitch-rear end and punched him in the face anyway. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:Speak for yourself. Now that Gaider and Casey Hudson have both left Bioware, you and I have to enact our suicide pact, Snakes.
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Mar 30, 2015 16:08
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Hey does anybody have any sick strats for beating (new DLC) Hakkon on hard? Methods for cheesing would be fine, I don't really wanna backtrack to a previous save and go through that ice dungeon again. I've got my main char as an archer rogue and am rolling with Vivienne and Dorian and Cassandra but can't divert aggro to Cassandra enough when he starts snuffing out the torches to last longer than like half his health bar.
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I'm kind of cross posting from the Inquisition Let's Play, but I did note one other thing that bugged me about the Grey Wardens here. Why would they just kick out Fiona instead of studying her? She's the first person they know of to ever become straight-up immune to the Taint. Studying her would give them better ideas on how to combat the taint, possibly leading to even a cure or vaccine for it. Something any Warden with a brain would be drooling over. Sure, she can't sense darkspawn or kill a potential Archdemon anymore, but that pales in comparison to the value immunity would have. I get that they are big on sacrifice and certainty, but why ignore someone that could make such things completely unnecessary? Even as just another soldier, she'd be invaluable as the darkspawn can't infect or detect her. She should represent the Holy Grail for the organization, yet the toss her right back to the Circle for "cheating death". It's like the Wardens are going out of their way to be idiots now.
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Mar 30, 2015 18:03
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To be fair, not all of the Wardens are disinterested in why she's immune. The Hero of Fereldan is trying to find a cure for the Calling (if they are alive).
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Wasabi the J posted:This. Everyone's convinced you're gonna owe your life to a god, but my skeptic Inquis was like "Psh, it's probably a mistranslation of some dumb bullshit anyways, chug-a-lug bitches!" and then nothing loving happens and the god you owe your life to gets owned by Solas anyway. I went at it with both this reasoning and the idea that, if anyone is going to have to take responsibility for mystical bullshit, it's going to be me because I'm the Inquisitor and and a Big drat Hero who can handle it.
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Dan Didio posted:Now that Gaider and Casey Hudson have both left Bioware, you and I have to enact our suicide pact, Snakes. Casey left Bioware, Gaider just left the DA team for another project.
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SgtSteel91 posted:To be fair, not all of the Wardens are disinterested in why she's immune. The Hero of Fereldan is trying to find a cure for the Calling (if they are alive). True, but the organization as a whole doesn't seem too interested in changing things. They seem to have become so arrogant and stagnant that it was easy for Cory and Friends to play them like a fiddle, like almost every other important group in this series.
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epitasis posted:Hey does anybody have any sick strats for beating (new DLC) Hakkon on hard? Methods for cheesing would be fine, I don't really wanna backtrack to a previous save and go through that ice dungeon again. I've got my main char as an archer rogue and am rolling with Vivienne and Dorian and Cassandra but can't divert aggro to Cassandra enough when he starts snuffing out the torches to last longer than like half his health bar. there are a couple motherfucker fights in the new dlc but rolling with blackwall and vivian dealt with most of them. i also used the inquisitor power that kills demons near rifts for the first time ever
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Geostomp posted:True, but the organization as a whole doesn't seem too interested in changing things. They seem to have become so arrogant and stagnant that it was easy for Cory and Friends to play them like a fiddle, like almost every other important group in this series. Reversing the GW taint might also "cure" actual darkspawn, or at least act as a WMD on them. Maybe they're not ready for that story-wise or haven't considered that angle. Instead of dying to kill an archdemon, just stab them with the antidote and no more blight.
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Cool Inquisitor and all, but what the hell did you do to Viv's sense of fashion?  Speaking of, are there any pictures of the Jaws of Hakkon armor?
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Polaron posted:Cool Inquisitor and all, but what the hell did you do to Viv's sense of fashion? What sense of fashion  Is it still not known for wure when the DLC will show on for PS4? Edit: Should have checked some sites first! May, huh? Maybe I'll have levelled my new Rogue up by then 
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Polaron posted:Cool Inquisitor and all, but what the hell did you do to Viv's sense of fashion? none of it is remarkably different except for the helmet that looks like a radiator
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so this DLC was p. cool but in general Bioware DLCs work best when they're character-focused, and JoH is a bit lacking in that department also the next DLC should have a city even kirkwall really
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SubponticatePoster posted:Sort of repeating the theme that organizations become corrupt/lax/ossified over time, I suppose. If a reversal could be found, then you serve your time in the Wardens (5-10 years or whatever) then take the cure and leave. By doing your time you're forgiven for whatever fuckups you committed before you joined and hopefully your service has trained you out of being an rear end in a top hat if you were a criminal beforehand. This conversation reminds me of something. My understanding is Fiona basically got kicked out of the Wardens because, without the taint, she wasn't one anymore. Taint is a qualification for Warden-ness, so can't be tainted, out you go. But what about that guy in Vigil's Keep in Awakening? The seneschal who does the joining ritual. Was he a warden? Because I swear he isn't, because his official backstory is that he's spent his whole life protecting Amaranthine, so he used to work for Howe. But now he's doing the joining ritual for you. So he became a senior warden in between Origins ending and Awakening starting? Do they keep guys like him around even if they're not officially Wardens?
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Geostomp posted:It's like the Wardens are going out of their way to be idiots now. I got the impression that the only reason the Wardens had their heads on straight in DA:O was because the Fereldan wardrns were mostly and then completely cut off from the rest of the warden infrastructure.
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Lotish posted:This conversation reminds me of something. My understanding is Fiona basically got kicked out of the Wardens because, without the taint, she wasn't one anymore. Taint is a qualification for Warden-ness, so can't be tainted, out you go. I'm pretty sure that your support staff in Awakening was comprised of non-Wardens that were trusted enough to hold the organization's secrets. There are just too few Wardens to not allow for non-Warden helpers to keep things running. All of the actual Wardens you didn't recruit yourself were either killed or kidnapped by the darkspawn raid right before the Hero or Orlesian Warden got there. Which only makes the decision to send Fiona back to the Circle even stranger. Foolie posted:I got the impression that the only reason the Wardens had their heads on straight in DA:O was because the Fereldan wardrns were mostly and then completely cut off from the rest of the warden infrastructure. Honestly, that seems to make the most sense. The closest thing the HoF had to Warden training was a couple of weeks travelling off-screen with Duncan. Since neither they nor Alistair had much chance to be indoctrinated with the usual Grey Warden rhetoric, both of them were more flexible than their mainstream counterparts. That and I assume that the Wardens are a lot more focused when the actual Blight is happening. In peacetime, their duties are less clearly defined so they become much more sketchy. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Seems like the DLC is out for all other platforms in May. Quite a bit to wait, to be honest.
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Becklespinax posted:Seems like the DLC is out for all other platforms in May. Quite a bit to wait, to be honest. Wow, that's incredibly disappointing.
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