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Aston posted:Erm I think you'll find Roy sets his sword on fire (possibly with magic?) which is supremely bad rear end Only 20 times before it breaks and you get locked out of the golden ending.
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My apologies, I thought this was the Smash Bros thread but I see now it is the Fire Emblem 7 thread
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Mar 30, 2015 16:51
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Aston posted:Erm I think you'll find Roy sets his sword on fire (possibly with magic?) which is supremely bad rear end That was kinda neat in Melee but mostly as a reason to use Roy instead of Marth. Then Ike came into our lives with his flamethrower compacted into the form of a big golden claymore and made Roy look like a toddler with a drool-covered rattle.
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Mar 30, 2015 16:52
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Canas owns
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPubnBLuCac&t=8s
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Ometeotl posted:That was kinda neat in Melee but mostly as a reason to use Roy instead of Marth. Then Ike came into our lives with his flamethrower compacted into the form of a big golden claymore and made Roy look like a toddler with a drool-covered rattle. Yeah and Ike is a real hero too
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Mar 30, 2015 19:56
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Roy was added because he was a popular fan character who had a preexisting moveset to work from and they were just starting to mess with adding characters to the game.
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Mar 30, 2015 19:59
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I mained Roy in Melee, but when I first played Ike I realized he was what I had been seeking all along.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:01
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Only in the context of Smash bros is Roy ever associated with the word "popular"
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Mar 30, 2015 20:02
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Roy is a cooler guy than Marth in the FE games too he just has bad stats. Roy's too cool. Marth is literally The Worst.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:03
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Roy is NOT my boy!
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Funky Valentine posted:Only in the context of Smash bros is Roy ever associated with the word "popular" Ok? Fortunately we're talking about Smash Bros.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:04
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Only in the context of Smash bros is Marth, Ivysaur, Shulk, Dr. Mario, Ness, Lucas, and Megaman (:letroleface:) considered popular
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Mar 30, 2015 20:07
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Countblanc posted:Only in the context of Smash bros is Marth, Ivysaur, Shulk, Dr. Mario, Ness, Lucas, and Megaman (:letroleface:) considered popular Captain Falcon too
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Mar 30, 2015 20:11
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Kyte posted:They managed to make a moveset out of Sonic, dude. Sonic Battle did this far before Smash Bros did. I was actually kinda expecting his moveset to be based on that.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:15
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Countblanc posted:Only in the context of Smash bros is Marth, Ivysaur, Shulk, Dr. Mario, Ness, Lucas, and Megaman (:letroleface:) considered popular Even in the context of Smash bros, Dr Mario isn't popular.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:22
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I like Roy, he's one of the cool Koopalings!
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Mar 30, 2015 20:22
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laplace posted:Roy is a cooler guy than Marth in the FE games too he just has bad stats. Well I can agree with that last part anyway
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Mar 30, 2015 20:23
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Aston posted:Even in the context of Smash bros, Dr Mario isn't popular. So unpopular they made a point of bringing him back in Smash 4
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Mar 30, 2015 20:28
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TheKingofSprings posted:So unpopular they made a point of bringing him back in Smash 4 Every game needs a heel
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Mar 30, 2015 20:31
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TheKingofSprings posted:So unpopular they made a point of bringing him back in Smash 4 Only because Ice Climbers couldn't work on the 3ds.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:35
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Shadowlyger posted:Sonic Battle did this far before Smash Bros did. I was actually kinda expecting his moveset to be based on that. PM saves the day:  
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Mar 30, 2015 20:40
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Aston posted:Even in the context of Smash bros, Dr Mario isn't popular. He was back in Melee.  Why'd you have to go ruin my old main Sakurai you rear end in a top hat. 
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Mar 30, 2015 20:41
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Real talk, PM brought back all the characters that weren't pointless. Dr. Mario's a costume, Young Link is Toon Link, Pichu is stupid. I'm still hoping for Pichu.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:57
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I bet if you asked 100 random people who their favourite smash bro was not one of them would say Dr Mario. More people would say Pichu than Dr Mario.
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Mar 30, 2015 21:30
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F. Lobot posted:PM saves the day: this move owns and i never understood why it wasn't in brawl or smash 4. i really like what p:m did with sonic in general, actually.
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Mar 30, 2015 21:30
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didn't brawl minus add pichu to their roster
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Mar 30, 2015 21:31
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Aston posted:I bet if you asked 100 random people who their favourite smash bro was not one of them would say Dr Mario. I'd bet against that actually.
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Mar 30, 2015 21:31
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Aston posted:I bet if you asked 100 random people who their favourite smash bro was not one of them would say Dr Mario. i have several friends who were really excited that dr. mario was back
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Mar 30, 2015 21:31
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sharrrk posted:didn't brawl minus add pichu to their roster
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Mar 30, 2015 21:32
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How is Jigglypuff in Smash 4? I always appreciated the notion that it was a bit of a troll character - players shying away from its appearance, mannerisms, and goofy moveset only to be owned hard by anyone with the patience to master it.
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Mar 30, 2015 21:41
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I'm more afraid of Jiggs than Diddy, if that tells you anything.
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Mar 30, 2015 21:47
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mamelon posted:How is Jigglypuff in Smash 4? I always appreciated the notion that it was a bit of a troll character - players shying away from its appearance, mannerisms, and goofy moveset only to be owned hard by anyone with the patience to master it. When I was a kid I thought Jigglypuff was a joke character because I didn't even know Rest did anything, I thought it was useless. But yeah, Jigglypuff is totally viable, just a little hard to use.
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Mar 30, 2015 22:01
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Jigglypuff has ridiculous spacing, she seems pretty decent
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If you're good with short hop aerials and don't want to touch the ground for more than a tenth of a second, Jigglypuff is your character.
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mabels big day posted:I'd bet against that actually. I said it as a joke but now I want to test out this theory, and I can't figure out how.
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Mar 30, 2015 22:37
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Aston posted:I said it as a joke but now I want to test out this theory, and I can't figure out how. Realtalk, there's a bunch of facebook groups you could ask if you really cared. Michigan has a P:M page, and I assume a general Smash one as well, not to mention most colleges and some metro areas will have something. The MI P:M one alone has 550 members, so it wouldn't be hard to get a decent sample size. Just set up a survey page that says "rank your top 5 favorite smash characters" or maybe pick one character from each game, and then leave an optional space at the bottom asking why they picked who they did. You could formalize that too if you wanted with a couple different options ("These characters have powerful moves," "these characters have the best taunts," "these characters are from my favorite other Nintendo games," etc) since it's a lot easier to compare results like that, though the answers would be less interesting probably
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It's kind of a weird question as well since like you say there are plenty of reasons for someone being your favourite. I think asking a facebook group might skew the results more towards the competitive end of the spectrum, where it seems to me (and I know this is a broad generalisation) that they'd interpret is as who is their favourite to play, which (and again this is a generalisation) will tend towards the stronger characters. Like for example if you asked chudat who his favourite melee character is, would he say Ice Climbers or Kirby? Would he follow his head or his heart? And which do I want to measure?
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My apologies, I thought this was a thread about actual games but I see now it is the Project M thread.
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Aston posted:It's kind of a weird question as well since like you say there are plenty of reasons for someone being your favourite. I think asking a facebook group might skew the results more towards the competitive end of the spectrum, where it seems to me (and I know this is a broad generalisation) that they'd interpret is as who is their favourite to play, which (and again this is a generalisation) will tend towards the stronger characters. Like for example if you asked chudat who his favourite melee character is, would he say Ice Climbers or Kirby? I think it'd only skew that way if you talked to P:M or comp-specific groups. I'm sorta extrapolating from other nerd poo poo, but in some card game FB groups I'm on there's tons of discussion of like ~*~the lore~*~ or card art or other things that don't directly relate to mechanics (or the things that are mechanical, but still "casual" like deck lists that are clearly unviable competitively). Nerdy people gravitate to nerdy places, and there's a lot of people in groups who might not post threads but like reading what other people have to say about stuff they enjoy, and would happily respond to an anonymous survey. And drawing the line between love of something's mechanics and it as an abstract character seems pretty arbitrary anyway. Super Mario World is probably my favorite single player game ever, but that's almost entirely because moving around and jumping feels really loving good, the sprites are the perfect size for me relative to the amount of screen you see (compared to a lot of modern platformers where poo poo is super tiny ala Meatboy or old some games where the sprites are huge), you get to run fast, and it breaks in really funny ways. The game's atmosphere and colors are nice but honestly I can think of games with better aesthetics for me (like Yoshi's Island) that I don't like quite as much.
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