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That more applies to Einstein on religion, not a top Card Game Player Person on Card Game Playing. Though I'm not sure if it's "Reid Duke said to run two ultimate price in the sideboard for stormbreaths" or if it's "Reid Duke ran two ultimate price in the side board so you must as well" in this situation.
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Herr Tog posted:Yea and I am used to wrecking decks worth twice as much as mine... Pretend this expands until it takes up the whole thread 
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Apr 1, 2015 03:52
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I say we go for the Borborygmos, Enraged + Possibility Storm + Enter the Infinite RUG combo kill. :iamafag:
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Apr 1, 2015 03:52
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I would be totally cool with "here's all the rares & uncommons I have, let's make something" and then set a limit on how many external cards to bring in, like 85% of the deck (not counting basic lands) has to be stuff you already own, or you can only spend $50 on extra cards for the deck. I think it'd be much more interesting to see what we can make from a random collection rather than "lol let's make him buy a playset of Jaces"
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Apr 1, 2015 03:59
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C-Euro posted:I would be totally cool with "here's all the rares & uncommons I have, let's make something" and then set a limit on how many external cards to bring in, like 85% of the deck (not counting basic lands) has to be stuff you already own, or you can only spend $50 on extra cards for the deck. I think it'd be much more interesting to see what we can make from a random collection rather than "lol let's make him buy a playset of Jaces" I agree but I don't think many more goons would be interested in this.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:01
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Kyrosiris posted:Yep, starting after VSL Season 2 (April 28th). Brad Nelson, Brian Kibler, Josh Utter-Layton, Gerry Thompson, Owen Turtenwald, Paul Cheon, Tom Ross, and Andrew Cuneo - it's a 8-man single elimination bracket each week for 8 weeks, then a 3-man playoff based on a score system (+10 points per match win, +5 points if you are the winner of a week). This sounds loving awesome. I'm down.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:03
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qbert posted:This sounds loving awesome. I'm down. They also get to make new Standard decks every week. It is going to be awesome.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:04
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Snacksmaniac posted:Pretend this expands until it takes up the whole thread  Nothing makes me happier than destroying legacy Burn with my RUG Delver deck that costs 20x theirs. Also knowing I could sell my deck to pay my mortgage for half a year if I needed to is nice.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:06
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Snacksmaniac posted:Pretend this expands until it takes up the whole thread Hey. I've beaten plenty of $20 decks with $10 decks. 
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Apr 1, 2015 04:07
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Okay I'm sorry for bringing that anecdote up.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:10
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3-0 with that RDW I was asking about earlier at my local LGS tonight. Thanks a ton for all the suggestions. Ended up fighting essentially 3 control decks. One guy dropped a Xenagos, God of Revels and a Thunderbreak Regent which was scary, but not enough to stop me. Only lost 1 game in all my matches against a control guy where I got mana screwed for several turns. Should have mulliganed that hand. Apparently they're doing a PPTQ this weekend? Never done one of those, they said it's REL or something? Will probably lose but since this did really well and is a lot of fun, I might take it. Winnings came in store credit too, which is pretty nice.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:That more applies to Einstein on religion, not a top Card Game Player Person on Card Game Playing. It seemed to be more of a "I don't care if you have been running a version of this deck since KTK came out you should only net deck what reid duke changes his deck to as it's the only true magic and making your own changes to take your deck along a different path than reid duke is not allowed." Kind of thing.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:28
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Errant Gin Monks posted:It seemed to be more of a "I don't care if you have been running a version of this deck since KTK came out you should only net deck what reid duke changes his deck to as it's the only true magic and making your own changes to take your deck along a different path than reid duke is not allowed." Kind of thing. Well I mean, Reid Duke gave us Prophet Ban in RTR/Theros. That was a magical deck. I miss Reving for 18 in the same deck I could Monstrous Polukranos for 22
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Errant Gin Monks posted:It seemed to be more of a "I don't care if you have been running a version of this deck since KTK came out you should only net deck what reid duke changes his deck to as it's the only true magic and making your own changes to take your deck along a different path than reid duke is not allowed." Kind of thing. Eh, it mostly came off as a really salty overreaction.
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Apr 1, 2015 05:00
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Count Bleck posted:Well I mean, Reid Duke gave us Prophet Ban in RTR/Theros. That was a magical deck. Theros ruined Turbo Gates. As far as I'm concerned INN/RTR was the best cycle ever. Mazes End forever.
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Herr Tog posted:Hey Goons. I was thinking of posting a thread/game where we make a deck by posting cards to add. Revised. Any questions or comments?
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Apr 1, 2015 05:32
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I run a version of Infect that is substantially different from the Pantheon version, and it's because I honestly think some of the decisions they made were incorrect. 12 Infect creatures is too few with all the discard the Abzan decks are running, Become Immense may be too slow and is terrible in muliples, Groundswell is a great spell and there is no reason to run less than 4. I am not going to discard my own thinking and experience to just blindly run what I think is an inferior version of the deck, even if the people who made it are better at Magic than I am.
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kingcobweb posted:I was really excited to tell everyone in the thread about the April 1st promotional product that I made for Card Kingdom... but it sold out in 20m, before I even knew it was live. Oh well. I watched a guy open one in store: 4 foil rukh eggs. 
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Konstantin posted:Become Immense may be too slow If they never interact with your hand or board maybe but even then between pumps fetches and probes I'm having a hard time imagining it ever costing more than 3
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Konstantin posted:I run a version of Infect that is substantially different from the Pantheon version, and it's because I honestly think some of the decisions they made were incorrect. 12 Infect creatures is too few with all the discard the Abzan decks are running, Become Immense may be too slow and is terrible in muliples, Groundswell is a great spell and there is no reason to run less than 4. I am not going to discard my own thinking and experience to just blindly run what I think is an inferior version of the deck, even if the people who made it are better at Magic than I am. Imagine how well your better version of the deck would have placed at that tournament
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It is, of course, totally possible that your local meta is not the same as that on the Pro Tour, Open Series, or modo. Or even if it (coincidentally) is, knowing that for sure allows you to make better decisions than if you were preparing for a less certain meta.
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TheKingofSprings posted:If they never interact with your hand or board maybe but even then between pumps fetches and probes I'm having a hard time imagining it ever costing more than 3 3 is too much, you may need to leave mana open for Vines or Blessing to protect your creature, or you may need to spend 2 of your mana on Inkmoth Nexus.
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Jabor posted:It is, of course, totally possible that your local meta is not the same as that on the Pro Tour, Open Series, or modo. Or even if it (coincidentally) is, knowing that for sure allows you to make better decisions than if you were preparing for a less certain meta. The modo meta is all burn spells all the time every format, which really skews what kind of practice you can get and deck composition a lot of times. I don't think you'll ever run into that in real life though because once more than six hobos get together someone usually calls the cops
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:I watched a guy open one in store: 4 foil rukh eggs. That's one that I made as one of four demos of what the rest would be like 
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rabidsquid posted:The modo meta is all burn spells all the time every format, which really skews what kind of practice you can get and deck composition a lot of times. I don't think you'll ever run into that in real life though because once more than six hobos get together someone usually calls the cops The MODO meta is really annoying at times because it is so skewed in favor of the cheapest aggro deck possible in every format other than Vintage (every deck on Vintage MTGO is either Gush Storm or a Delver variant)
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Angry Grimace posted:The MODO meta is really annoying at times because it is so skewed in favor of the cheapest aggro deck possible in every format other than Vintage (every deck on Vintage MTGO is either Gush Storm or a Delver variant) Once Wasteland Remastered comes out, there will probably be a lot more Shops.
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Angry Grimace posted:The MODO meta is really annoying at times because it is so skewed in favor of the cheapest aggro deck possible in every format other than Vintage (every deck on Vintage MTGO is either Gush Storm or a Delver variant) How is dredge not number one vintage territory?
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rabidsquid posted:Imagine how well your better version of the deck would have placed at that tournament It's possible his deck could be better. Just because everyone copies the exact list that the pros make doesn't mean the list is the best for every tournament. It's kind of stupid that everyone here just assumes that the PT lists are Gods commandments that are passed down from a burning bush from on high to the small group of people who work for big stores and are broadcast on the Internet when they play wizard poker. Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Theros ruined Turbo Gates. As far as I'm concerned INN/RTR was the best cycle ever. Mazes End forever. I don't know if you forgot about Thragtusks for days.
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Eej posted:I don't know if you forgot about Thragtusks for days. That's actually still better than Theros
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Errant Gin Monks posted:It's possible his deck could be better. Just because everyone copies the exact list that the pros make doesn't mean the list is the best for every tournament. The best ever deck brewers in MTG, were a couple of guys who had been friends since grade school. One was named Cyrus, and the other was Jeff. They practiced twice a week in Jeffs bedroom.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Eidolon is great vs control. It's a 2-drop that they absolutely have to remove and it almost always shocks them when they do. It might be even better now that so many other RDW cards can dodge Drown in Sorrow. Currently making a list similar to what Dohaeris had. I don't have any Eidolons right now but I'm very much wondering now if I should at least have it in the board. Is it best against control? How essential do goons think it is? For context I'm planning to go to GP Toronto in May so I'd like my deck to be competitive as possible. Also wondering if I should instead run the variant splashing green for Atarka's Command (I tested it a bit on MWS with a friend and I did enjoy the card a lot) but I'm not really sure what I'd replace in the standard RDW for them (I'm guessing one of the burns?).
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In the event that anybody still cares about Temur Midrange, I updated the decklist for Dragons of Tarkir. I'm actually a little concerned about running two versions of Sarkhan, but both of them fit the gameplan well enough: one becomes a Stormbreath Dragon or Stoke the Flames, and the other is card advantage and more Threats, both Ultimates win the game in the long run should I so need to use them. Still wish Dragonspeaker's Emblem didn't trigger the turn you get it Thunderbreak Regent has been added, and thus with the addition of that, Sarkhan Unbroken, and already having 6 dragons, four potentially in hand, I decided to add more countermagic in Silumgar's Scorn: Basically Counterspell is pretty good when you're playing Tempo.
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This is the first actually good standard playable gameday promo in a while. I bet it's going to be at least 20 bucks.
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Count Bleck posted:In the event that anybody still cares about Temur Midrange, I updated the decklist for Dragons of Tarkir. I still care. I want to play the deck still. So having an idea of whats working is good. Interesting to see the burn taken out for countermagic. BattleCake posted:Currently making a list similar to what Dohaeris had. I don't have any Eidolons right now but I'm very much wondering now if I should at least have it in the board. Is it best against control? How essential do goons think it is? For context I'm planning to go to GP Toronto in May so I'd like my deck to be competitive as possible. I honestly consider unanswered Eidolons as much a free win against control decks as an unanswered Rabblemaster is against any other.
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I only sided my EIdolons in two games last night (Probably should have been more) but they did excellent work when they got put in.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:It seemed to be more of a "I don't care if you have been running a version of this deck since KTK came out you should only net deck what reid duke changes his deck to as it's the only true magic and making your own changes to take your deck along a different path than reid duke is not allowed." Kind of thing. I ran Sadisi Whip at the SCG NJ the day after KTK was released and I've been playing it on and off since and I pretty much made all the changes Reid did to the deck (I'm probably taking about 71 of his 75 to an IQ this weekend.) When a player much better than me improves a deck I'm playing why the hell wouldn't I want to take advantage of that knowledge? Isn't the goal to give yourself a better chance to win? mcmagic fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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mcmagic posted:I ran Sadisi Whip at the SCG NJ the day after KTK was released and I've been playing it on and off since and I pretty much made all the changes Reid did to the deck (I'm probably taking about 71 of his 75 to an IQ this weekend.) When a player much better than me improves a deck I'm playing why the hell wouldn't I want to take advantage of that knowledge? Isn't the goal to give yourself a better chance to win? I think we all understand the point you're trying to make (and it's not a bad point or anything) but it's not like a "this list is just strictly better" situation. There's so many factors that people have mentioned including local meta-game, etc. I'm sure the poster has reasons for their list choices, not the least of which might just be because they have more fun with it. Just my 2 cents 
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Count Bleck posted:In the event that anybody still cares about Temur Midrange, I updated the decklist for Dragons of Tarkir. Are you concerned that having 2RR, 1GG, G, UGR, and UU the same deck might be putting too much stress on the mana?
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mcmagic posted:I ran Sadisi Whip at the SCG NJ the day after KTK was released and I've been playing it on and off since and I pretty much made all the changes Reid did to the deck (I'm probably taking about 71 of his 75 to an IQ this weekend.) When a player much better than me improves a deck I'm playing why the hell wouldn't I want to take advantage of that knowledge? Isn't the goal to give yourself a better chance to win? "Reid Duke did it" isn't a good argument. Why those choices were made is the discussion you should be having. Why did you make those changes to play 71/75 of his cards, instead of 75? You must have a reason, right? If you can't articulate these things and just fall back on "no really it's better, learn from the pros, man" there's no reason anyone should ever pay attention to you.
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