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Dias posted:I was born, raised and still live in Southern Brazil. How do you get tired of the food. How. Milanesa is loving good bro.
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Long time yes-man with nothing but a high-school degree and two decades experience of political cocksucking gets named embassador, earns $60k a month, is unashamedly proud of it. 
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Mar 26, 2015 04:20
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Stockholm Syndrome posted:Hope you chileans get your poo poo in order. It'd be nice. Seems unlikely tho.
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Mar 26, 2015 12:39
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Stockholm Syndrome posted:Hope you chileans get your poo poo in order. Seems unlikely. E: ^didnt even see that reply before mine. drat we're hosed.
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Mar 26, 2015 22:01
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oh hey LatinAmericanfoodchat colombian food is pretty bland too, I like it because of nostalgia but every gringo I befriended while working in Bogota detested it. Now I live in Spain and the food here is amazing but I sometimes miss a good ajiaco or just a decent arepa, de choclo If possible. Anybody care about America's #1 friend on the continent, Colombia? All I know is what my family posts on Facebook and they're all frothing at the mouth because the current government is negotiating with the FARC which I personally don't think is so bad but, y'now, half a century of politically charged armed conflict and all that jazz.
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Mar 27, 2015 19:57
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Future Days posted:Long time yes-man with nothing but a high-school degree and two decades experience of political cocksucking gets named embassador, earns $60k a month, is unashamedly proud of it. What an inspirational story. 
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Mar 27, 2015 20:04
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Future Days posted:Long time yes-man with nothing but a high-school degree and two decades experience of political cocksucking gets named embassador, earns $60k a month, is unashamedly proud of it. Argentina has a long tradition of interesting ambassadors. Stockholm Syndrome posted:Hope you chileans get your poo poo in order. Massive loving drought followed by massive loving flooding. I remember something similar happening over a decade ago by the time I had just moved to La Serena. This was several orders of magnitude harder, though.
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Globo is doubling down on the manipulative side, getting close to Fox News level That's unemployment
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bagual posted:Globo is doubling down on the manipulative side, getting close to Fox News level The best one was Reuters, which inadvertently published their reporter's notes along with a Fernando Henrique Cardoso interview. In the interview, the reporter (who, by the way, co-authored a book with Cardoso) mentions that the people involved in the petrobras scandal claim that the kick backs started during the Cardoso presidency, and then there is a parenthesis where he offers to remove that section. And in terms of absolute insanity, Veja and parts of the right have decided to go all in in supporting Eduardo Cunha, the '"speaker of the house'" for the Brazilian congress. The guy who has been named directly in the Petrobras scandal, and who is holding the government hostage because the attorney general is investigating him, has been selected as the great statesman who will stop the corruption of PT. Edit: And there was also the slobbering O Globo interview where Eduardo Cunha explicitly says that PMDB is only pretending to be with the government, and where he complains that PMDB never had a worthwhile cabinet level position, and that part of the blame for corruption is that Dilma nominates too many technocrats and not enough politicians. Again, a guy who not only was named in the corruption scandal, but has openly complained that the government hasn't done enough to prevent the justice department from looking into has now been chosen by a significant part of the media as the last great Brazilian hope. joepinetree fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 29, 2015 23:55
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/03/30/world/americas/ap-lt-brazil-rising-right.html?ref=americas&_r=1quote:He began posting satiric videos to YouTube, which gained a following. He joined two digital media collectives and produced more clips. Along the way, Kataguiri read the works of free-market economists Milton Friedman and Ludwig Von Mises. Jesus Christ.
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Mar 30, 2015 15:28
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bagual posted:Globo is doubling down on the manipulative side, getting close to Fox News level But...but it contradicts itself within the same image  Fox will show straight up false information but almost never self-contradictory (though I have seen CNN fuckups that show poll response rates equaling 120% if you add them together). What the gently caress...Badger of Basra posted:http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/03/30/world/americas/ap-lt-brazil-rising-right.html?ref=americas&_r=1 noooooo it's spreading by the way, is this the bolsa familia that was mentioned earlier? quote:Kataguiri says he had a political awakening two years ago when he began questioning a classmate's position that a popular cash transfer program applauded by many experts around the globe was responsible for the expansion of Brazil's middle class and for lifting millions of citizens from poverty during the last decade. experts? pffffff, out of touch elites. God, it feels like I'm reading about US politics  Still, how much genuine support do he and his message really have? From the article and other things I've read, it sounds like a lot of this is more anti-Dilma than pro-anything else.
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Oh hell yeah what we need like now is american-style politics. Also the Media trying to prop up Cunha is hilarious because when people called him the Brazilian Frank Underwood he got more offended by the fact that Underwood was bisexual than an amoral murderer. Also it's pretty surreal to see the discourse I usually saw being used by Olavo de Carvalho fanboys, trolls and insane people on 55chan now seeping into the mainstream.
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Badger of Basra posted:http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/03/30/world/americas/ap-lt-brazil-rising-right.html?ref=americas&_r=1 That article gives me a lot of hope for Brazil. The fixes for the massive corruption and economic malaise certainly aren't going to come from Rousseff.
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Arkane posted:That article gives me a lot of hope for Brazil. The fixes for the massive corruption and economic malaise certainly aren't going to come from Rousseff. Maybe not, but they're definitely not going to come from people who admire Rand Paul and the Tea Party and ignore expert analysis in favor of ideological elegance. rockopete fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 30, 2015 16:35
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Arkane posted:That article gives me a lot of hope for Brazil. The fixes for the massive corruption and economic malaise certainly aren't going to come from Rousseff. I don't think they'll come from Rand Paul either.
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Arkane posted:That article gives me a lot of hope for Brazil. The fixes for the massive corruption and economic malaise certainly aren't going to come from Rousseff. The right will remain pretty firmly entrenched inside incompetentville, despite what PT has squandered.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Oh hell yeah what we need like now is american-style politics. Also the Media trying to prop up Cunha is hilarious because when people called him the Brazilian Frank Underwood he got more offended by the fact that Underwood was bisexual than an amoral murderer. Also it's pretty surreal to see the discourse I usually saw being used by Olavo de Carvalho fanboys, trolls and insane people on 55chan now seeping into the mainstream. Yeah, that is crazy. Olavo de Carvalho went from being the butt of many jokes on Orkut to being unironically quoted by relatively mainstream people. For non-Brazilians, Olavo de Carvalho is an ultra conservative "philosopher" and astrologist. No, the last part is not a joke. He is an honest to god astrologist. He at one point even had an article about how astrology explained the end of the cold war. Oh, and it is always fun to point out that the majority of the founders of the so called "mbl" are graduates from public universities, where they studied for free.
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joepinetree posted:Yeah, that is crazy. Olavo de Carvalho went from being the butt of many jokes on Orkut to being unironically quoted by relatively mainstream people. For non-Brazilians, Olavo de Carvalho is an ultra conservative "philosopher" and astrologist. No, the last part is not a joke. He is an honest to god astrologist. He at one point even had an article about how astrology explained the end of the cold war. We may never see their like again, thanks to the perfidy of the movimento negro and their dastardly quotas.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they ever returned to power that inequality would spike again as Lula-era reforms get dismantled. Also, the economic malaise Brazil is going through is largely because of China not some fantasy that the PT had turned Brazil into a command economy. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see the right cheer with the dismantling of reformist-left wing governments in South America, it is winner take all after all.
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joepinetree posted:Yeah, that is crazy. Olavo de Carvalho went from being the butt of many jokes on Orkut to being unironically quoted by relatively mainstream people. For non-Brazilians, Olavo de Carvalho is an ultra conservative "philosopher" and astrologist. No, the last part is not a joke. He is an honest to god astrologist. He at one point even had an article about how astrology explained the end of the cold war. Olavo was a joke and then he was the obscure mentor of a tiny group of paranoid conservatives and now he is gradually becoming the mastermind behind the brazilian neoconservatives. 5 years ago nobody knew who he was. Now we can hear regular (non crazy) people talking about "cultural marxism' and "Foro de São Paulo" in bar conversations. The left and the academy wont take him seriously, but the kids are listening to him. And a great part of those neoconservatives, who are getting more numerous every day, are teenage and young kids. And his books are selling like harry potter.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Olavo was a joke and then he was the obscure mentor of a tiny group of paranoid conservatives and now he is gradually becoming the mastermind behind the brazilian neoconservatives. Let me provide some of the Olavo de Carvalho highlights to the uninitiated: - Because of the gay rights movements, there are now books teaching kids how to perform oral sex on elephants - Marxism and darwinism were both born out of satanism - Humans don't need brains to live - Scientists can't tell human and chimpanzee fetuses apart. - Fossil fuels don't exist, as scientists have found hydrocarbons in a galaxy "na puta que pariu," where they never had dinosaurs. - And my absolute favorite: the law of inertia is fake and Isaac Newton was stupid. As a friend once said, these MBL and Olavete folks aren't libertarian. They are feudal plutocrats. They rail against quotas in the public universities, but not the provision of free public universities themselves. They rail against the income tax (which is the only part of the Brazilian tax code that is moderately progressive, but that only makes about 1/4 of all tax receipts), but not consumption tax. They, like most of the upper classes, rail against bolsa familia, but not against the salaries of the judiciary branch (since most of them are trying to get work there).
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joepinetree posted:Let me provide some of the Olavo de Carvalho highlights to the uninitiated: I refuse to believe this man exists.
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Apr 1, 2015 21:28
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Azran posted:I refuse to believe this man exists. Not only does he exist, but one of the first hits you will get if you google the kid that was profiled in the NY Times above is a video where he is talking to Olavo.
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Apr 1, 2015 21:40
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The more I hear about Uruguay the more I think they're our richer, more urban, better organized counterparts in the south. Everyone back home can't stop talking about Mujica, either. What are the prospects for Tabaré?
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joepinetree posted:Let me provide some of the Olavo de Carvalho highlights to the uninitiated: How can anyone trust a loving astrologer?
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Azran posted:I refuse to believe this man exists. Olavo de Carvalho posted:On the origins of Western stupidity
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Apr 2, 2015 17:53
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This man is literally insane, like this is timecube level insanity. Seriously why hasn't he been committed? I could swear he seems like a villain from a Robert Anton WIlson novel.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:12
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If anyone who cant read portuguese is interested to check how crazy he actually is, there is his famous debate with Dugin, in english: http://debateolavodugin.blogspot.com.br But as I said before: he might be insane, but he is the real mentor of the current brazilian neoconservatives. More and more often we see non-crazy people parroting his ideas around and its getting worrisome.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:31
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Carvalho's list if insane beliefs is literally too long to list here, or anywhere. This is the guy who right after the 9/11 attacks published an op-ed piece on a big weekly magazine (Época) saying that we were all fools and the attacks were OBVIOUSLY a russian communist assault. He was dropped shortly after that, but media always kept finding reasons to give him space and money. He also had a string of pieces detailing how the country's biggest Tv network, Globo, who was built up by the military dictatorship and exherts humungous power over brazilian society, was compromised by communists because one of their soap Operas, "Kubanacan", featured cuban immigrants, and therefore was pro Fidel Castro.
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Elias_Maluco posted:If anyone who cant read portuguese is interested to check how crazy he actually is, there is his famous debate with Dugin, in english: This guy can't be for real. American Christian nationalism is the last bastion against Russochinese-Islamist globalism? What?
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goatse.cx posted:This guy can't be for real. American Christian nationalism is the last bastion against Russochinese-Islamist globalism? What? This is the man who will save Brazil from becoming the new Cuba #ForaPT I'm going to an event at my university about Brazilian media next week, will report back with anything interesting.
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goatse.cx posted:This guy can't be for real. American Christian nationalism is the last bastion against Russochinese-Islamist globalism? What? That's basically his gimmick: he mimics crazy teaparty-like paranoia against communism, and then uses it to bash PT and social movements. And its selling like hotcakes (http://www.amazon.com.br/gp/bestsellers/books/7842837011/ref=zg_bs_nav_b_1_b) EDIT: and about that debate, I was rereading some parts. Its funny how even a radical conservative like Dugin seems pretty sane and reasonable compared to Olavo. Some highlights: quote:The Syndicate is an organization of big capitalists and international bankers committed to establishing a worldwide socialist dictatorship (we will see shortly why socialist). There are so many documents and studies that meticulously depict its origin, history, membership, and modus operandi that no excuse can be accepted for ignorance in this matter, most of all from people who intend to opine about it. No, this is not an insinuation against Professor Dugin. He is perfectly informed about it, and if he commits errors in the conclusions he presents, it is not due to ignorance. It is because the essentially bellicose nature of his approach impels him to divide the panorama into two symmetrically opposed halves, falsifying the whole picture and sending to the limbo of non-existence all the facts that refute this Manichean simplification. And the photo he uses to prove the difference between him and Dugin 
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How did this guy acquire any influence, again? I know, water carrier for the well-off, but surely there have to be more...sane people willing to play that sort of stooge in a country of 200 million? This is as if Lyndon LaRouche had Ted Cruz levels of influence, correct me if that analogy is way off but that's how it appears to an American. Echoing Elias_Maluco, anyone who can make Alexander goddamn Dugin look reasonable in a debate belongs in an institution. rockopete fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 20:03
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Just saw an article about this: Holy poo poo
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I don't think his ideas are that influential, at least no ideas that aren't "PT is destroying us". What you gotta understand is that a fair portion of Brazilians will support anyone that goes against PT - and Olavo just so happens to be an anti-PT stooge with a nice speaking platform. I would wager that most people sharing his articles don't even know about his far-off beliefs. Hell, even the SFL kids wouldn't stand by him if they hadn't this common enemy.Badger of Basra posted:Just saw an article about this: ...that's dumb. Literally referencing slave ships in your brand is pretty dumb. Then again, have you tried ordering Chinese in Brazil? The branding is...interesting. Dias fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 20:35
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That's because there were almost no influent conservative philosophers and thinkers since the dictatorship. It was majorly a conflict between neoliberal and socialist thought in politics during the 90s and 00s, with social conservatism usually a thing relegated to the religious politicians.
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How do you Brazilians feel about being classified as Latin Americans?
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TheImmigrant posted:How do you Brazilians feel about being classified as Latin Americans? Portuguese is a Romance language, though, so vOv.
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Future Days posted:Portuguese is a Romance language, though, so vOv. Then French-Canadians are Latin American too.
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TheImmigrant posted:Then French-Canadians are Latin American too. Doesn't count, they are a subjugated peoples under the anglo empire of tyranny  Seriously though, portuguese is also an iberian language. Brazilians (who live away from the borders) generally feel kinda distanced from general hispanic american culture, but no one would question we're a part of latin america. This remembers me of a funny linguistic quirk in brazilian-hispanic mutual understanding, apparently it's way harder for spanish-speakers to learn portuguese than the other way around because while all spanish syllables and sounds exist within the portuguese language there are a lot of intonations and language structures specific to portuguese (and brazilian portuguese). This results in a lot of brazilian tourists who never formally learned spanish to go around latin america speaking a weird portuñol and getting by just fine, while brazilian hotels and businesses in touristic cities generally keep spanish-fluent staff.
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