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PupsOfWar posted:John McCain as SecDef would be mediocre because SecDef isn't in charge of starting wars, just prosecuting them. Oh he'll start a war all right. He'd start a war as Secretary of Commerce.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Wait I thought the whole point of getting rid of DOMA last year was for same-sex couples to have federal benefits. I thought that was the point of that case. Most federal agencies have adopted the "place of celebration" rule, where you're federally married if the marriage is legal where it was performed. But Windsor doesn't require that, and the SSA says the marriage has to be legal where you currently live.
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Apr 1, 2015 02:16
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Fried Chicken posted:Vote Graham 2016! We could go for another deeply rumored, possibly closeted rear end in a top hat who will bring about civil war! Lincoln?
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Apr 1, 2015 02:27
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Cantorsdust posted:Lincoln? James Buchanan lived with a "roommate" named William Rufus King for ten years. Andrew Jackson nicknamed them "Miss Nancy" and "Aunt Fancy".
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Apr 1, 2015 02:30
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Joementum posted:Full list of dogless Presidents: McKinley, Arthur, A. Johnson, Fillmore, Taylor, Polk, W. H. Harrison, Van Buren, Jackson, J. Q. Adams*, Madison, Jefferson. I petition that Jackson get a similar exemption because his parrot was pretty awesome. It could curse in both English and Spanish, and had to be removed from his funeral because it wouldn't stop screaming curses.
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Apr 1, 2015 02:36
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SedanChair posted:I really just realized how much I want it to be Graham. I want him to beat off competitors with money and flip-flopping and get to the general. And grow a big beard, and turn into his true self. Graham/Frank 2016!
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Apr 1, 2015 03:20
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Joementum posted:James Buchanan lived with a "roommate" named William Rufus King for ten years. Andrew Jackson nicknamed them "Miss Nancy" and "Aunt Fancy". That is because Andrew Jackson is an rear end in a top hat.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:15
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Trevor Hale posted:That is because Andrew Jackson is an rear end in a top hat. You can precipitate the forcible dislocation of several distinct native peoples and also have working gaydar.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:19
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As awful as Jackson is, being the only president to have to be restrained from beating his would be assassin to death is a pretty badass distinction.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:24
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Joementum posted:Full list of dogless Presidents: McKinley, Arthur, A. Johnson, Fillmore, Taylor, Polk, W. H. Harrison, Van Buren, Jackson, J. Q. Adams*, Madison, Jefferson. So it looks like only assholes or weirdos don't have dogs.
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How many voters knew that James Buchanan was probably a homosexual? I'm just wondering if it was something that was only well known in political circles... I don't know anything about the culture of those times - did people not care about it or did they just not know? And if they didn't know, why didn't anyone tell them? People always talk about how politics isn't any dirtier now than it used to be, so I would think his opponent would have made it known somehow if he thought he could get some votes for himself.
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Apr 1, 2015 04:25
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OctoberBlues posted:How many voters knew that James Buchanan was probably a homosexual? I'm just wondering if it was something that was only well known in political circles... I don't know anything about the culture of those times - did people not care about it or did they just not know? And if they didn't know, why didn't anyone tell them? People always talk about how politics isn't any dirtier now than it used to be, so I would think his opponent would have made it known somehow if he thought he could get some votes for himself. The public didn't know that FDR was disabled, and the journalists who knew were politely asked not to tell people about it. It's strange to me because the 19th century had all kinds of political viciousness like voters being attacked in the streets or poll workers intimidating minorities, but it seems that some big secrets managed to not get turned into big stories by journalists.
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SedanChair posted:It's why, maybe just at the end of the country for a minute, I want Newt. gently caress You And Diebold posted:Create zoo czar position, appoint newt for life. Should keep him out of trouble 
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Apr 1, 2015 04:58
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Can we put this in the OP? http://www.salon.com/2015/03/31/americas_next_top_bigot_why_gops_upcoming_primary_is_an_anti_gay_freak_show/  I like how Rand is peaking out.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Sadly RAM was not yet developed to its current capabilities. allegedly his AM was pretty R by the end of his presidency, alzheimers will do that
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Apr 1, 2015 05:33
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Sir Tonk posted:Can we put this in the OP? My favorite part of the article is the comment from that idiot at Buzzfeed who's been trying to sell Jeb as the "gay-friendly" GOP candidate: McKay Coppins posted:Positioning oneself as gay-friendly *in the context of a Republican presidential primary* does not preclude endorsing religious freedom laws "Hey, it's all relative! At least he's not advocating burning gays at the stake!" 
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Apr 1, 2015 05:50
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Chamale posted:The public didn't know that FDR was disabled, and the journalists who knew were politely asked not to tell people about it. It's strange to me because the 19th century had all kinds of political viciousness like voters being attacked in the streets or poll workers intimidating minorities, but it seems that some big secrets managed to not get turned into big stories by journalists. They knew he was disabled,but not to the extent that he was.
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Apr 1, 2015 06:54
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DaveWoo posted:My favorite part of the article is the comment from that idiot at Buzzfeed who's been trying to sell Jeb as the "gay-friendly" GOP candidate: That law isn't about discriminating against gays, Bill Clinton signed it twenty years ago!
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Apr 1, 2015 16:40
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Cruzin' into third place in PPP's latest poll.
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This machine polls in the single digits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXpMuBshfQQ
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Joementum posted:Cruzin' into third place in PPP's latest poll. I expect we'll see Not Sure rise in the polls after Cruz flames out. 
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Apr 1, 2015 18:40
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What 2012 presidential said this quote:"With his Iran deal, Barack Obama is for the 300 million souls of the United States what Andreas Lubitz was for the 150 souls on the German Wings flight - a deranged pilot flying his entire nation into the rocks. After the fact, among the smoldering remains of American cities, the shocked survivors will ask, why did he do it?" Michelle Bachmaan
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Wheeee posted:I expect we'll see Not Sure rise in the polls after Cruz flames out.
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Apr 1, 2015 18:53
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SedanChair posted:I really just realized how much I want it to be Graham. I want him to beat off competitors The only headline to top Santorum surges, Romney on top
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Apr 1, 2015 18:55
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quote:"With his Iran deal, Barack Obama is for the 300 million souls of the United States what Andreas Lubitz was for the 150 souls on the German Wings flight - a deranged pilot flying his entire nation into the rocks. After the fact, among the smoldering remains of American cities, the shocked survivors will ask, why did he do it?"  Hopefully we get some more stuff of this caliber after the next mass shooting, using the deaths of innocent people as a prop really elevates political discourse.
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Apr 1, 2015 19:02
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WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY WHAT DO YOU MEAN "MUSTER VOTES"
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Kellsterik posted:
Did that actually get published in a newspaper? Holy poo poo. e: nm i am dumb it is a website. but still. holy poo poo
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Apr 1, 2015 19:05
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Joementum posted:By the way, during the recent budget votes in the Senate, an amendment that would extend Social Security and veterans benefits to same-sex couples passed with 11 Republicans signing on. In addition to Graham, were McConnell and Kirk part of that 11? 
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Apr 1, 2015 20:23
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Joementum posted:Full list of dogless Presidents: McKinley, Arthur, A. Johnson, Fillmore, Taylor, Polk, W. H. Harrison, Van Buren, Jackson, J. Q. Adams*, Madison, Jefferson. Didn't Clinton not have a dog until his second term? I thought it was just Socks for a while.
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Apr 1, 2015 20:26
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Didn't Clinton not have a dog until his second term? I thought it was just Socks for a while. He got a lab named Buddy later. If only Socks had reached his prime during the age of cat memes on the internet. There are no presidential cats in sight for the near future.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:What 2012 presidential said this Wow, I thought this was an April Fool's joke. But it's real. Here's her verified Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/teambachmann/posts/10152764328972361
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Apr 1, 2015 21:50
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Didn't Clinton not have a dog until his second term? I thought it was just Socks for a while. Yes, it was just Socks for the first term. You could write to Socks with a SASE and get a "signed" glossy photo back, which I did. But that program was not liked by Congressman Dan Burton (R-IN). quote:"As a member of the new Committee on Government Reform and Oversight, I would like to inquire what the standard practice is for the White House to respond to mail directed to `Socks,' your cat," he wrote. "How many of these inquiries were responded to over the past two years? Who pays for the postage? If it comes out of the White House mail budget, why are the taxpayers being made to pay for your feline's fan club." Burton would later become infamous when he shot watermellons in his back yard in an attempt to prove that the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered.
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Apr 1, 2015 22:36
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Joementum: A picture of your glossy pic of Socks or it didn't happen.
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^^^sameJoementum posted:Yes, it was just Socks for the first term. You could write to Socks with a SASE and get a "signed" glossy photo back, which I did. Wow, dude sounds like the miserly villain who always tries to cancel Christmas.
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Apr 1, 2015 23:35
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Titus Sardonicus posted:Wow, dude sounds like the miserly villain who always tries to cancel Christmas. Oliver Cromwell?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Oliver Cromwell? I don't think Cromwell was that big an rear end. Not even the Grinch would complain about a kitty cat photo that was undoubtedly mostly for kids. Besides, if he honestly thinks they offed Foster for whatever reason, why isn't he afraid of the consequences of loving with their cat?
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Titus Sardonicus posted:^^^same Oh, you aren't familiar with Dan Burton? Let me play the highlight reel for you quote:Tainted funds from Pakistan[edit] That's his "Controversies" list. His "stupid poo poo that fell out of his mouth" list is much much longer
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Joementum posted:Yes, it was just Socks for the first term. You could write to Socks with a SASE and get a "signed" glossy photo back, which I did. Jesus, he also stopped using the congressional gym after Barney Frank came out. And he's only been out of Congress for two years.
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J. F. Christ, this guy is The Whole Package. Dan Burton for President 2016  
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