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Could something like Izzet dragon midrange be a thing? I'm trying to move away from Boros.
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It's the worst day of the year to be online, and dailymtg is doing their part.
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Swagger Dagger posted:"Reid Duke did it" isn't a good argument. Why those choices were made is the discussion you should be having. Why did you make those changes to play 71/75 of his cards, instead of 75? You must have a reason, right? The first post I made in response to this topic being brought up had reasoning behind every change to the deck...
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Apr 1, 2015 16:08
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Elyv posted:It's the worst day of the year to be online, and dailymtg is doing their part. That said, I would loving love to watch the Un-Pro Tour.
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Apr 1, 2015 16:11
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Count Bleck posted:In the event that anybody still cares about Temur Midrange, I updated the decklist for Dragons of Tarkir. I'm also still playing Temur Midrange. I haven't made any swaps yet for dragons, but I've been trying to figure out what would work. My plan is to take out old sarkhan and put in 2 of the new one since he protect himself better and helps out with mana a bit. I also still really like shaman of the great hunt. Even if he can't swing in my Knuckleblades and Stormbreath dragons can threaten to be huge. I had been running 4 wild slash, but I might switch that up to 2 and 2 roast. There are still a decent number of 5 toughness creatures running around in my local meta. Still love running 4 stubborn denials main though.
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Apr 1, 2015 16:21
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Swagger Dagger posted:"Reid Duke did it" isn't a good argument. Why those choices were made is the discussion you should be having. Why did you make those changes to play 71/75 of his cards, instead of 75? You must have a reason, right? Of course you are right, "Reid Duke" made it is not , in and of itself, necessarily a good argument. That being said, Reid Duke has a proven track record of consistently putting out good decks and piloting them to good finishes. IF he comes up with a decklist, the odds are good that his version of the deck is better than someone who is not on the pro tour could concoct. Is that necessarily the case, again no, but it is likely the case. That is why the common advise is to simply copy a pro players list, card for card and test it BEFORE you make any adjustments. Pro Players do a ton of testing and metagame analysis before they decide on a decklist, much more work hours will go into those decklists than you are likely to put in. Again, this does not mean their deck is guaranteed to be better than one even an experienced player makes, but it is likely. Established players have proven track records that can show how likely it is for their deck to be good. Most players who are not on a similarly competitive circuit do not (myself included). Again, I'm not going to copy Brad Nelson's work out regime, or ask Reid Duke his opinion on politics because he is good at magic. I will however take his advice (including decklists) when it comes to magic, as he is good at magic. How is this a hard concept? This doesn't run afoul of the appeal to authority because admittedly his deck could be bad, it could have a bad sideboard, it could be poorly metagamed, especially in the early stages of a format. You take their initial list with that in mind, with the knowledge that it may be poor. The decks pro's use should be a shortcut to an initial decklist. You follow their initial choices and decisions as a guide and deviate when your knowledge and experience, gained through playtesting, informs you to do otherwise.
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I paid 5 dollars to win 3 packs of DTK last night, did I come out ahead I forget how much a new pack actually costs For the purposes of this post we're going to ignore that I couldn't keep from innate gambling urges and ended up opening all 3 of them...
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Apr 1, 2015 16:26
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forbidden lesbian posted:I paid 5 dollars to win 3 packs of DTK last night, did I come out ahead I forget how much a new pack actually costs you came out $5.50-$7.00 ahead, not bad.
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Apr 1, 2015 16:28
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forbidden lesbian posted:I paid 5 dollars to win 3 packs of DTK last night, did I come out ahead I forget how much a new pack actually costs I feel like the EV of a pack of DTK is about 25 cents... At least the ones I've opened...
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Madmarker posted:Of course you are right, "Reid Duke" made it is not , in and of itself, necessarily a good argument. That being said, Reid Duke has a proven track record of consistently putting out good decks and piloting them to good finishes. IF he comes up with a decklist, the odds are good that his version of the deck is better than someone who is not on the pro tour could concoct. Is that necessarily the case, again no, but it is likely the case. Worth noting that there's just gonna be a lot of wild meta calls/reactions that won't necessarily fit with what everyone's dealing with in their own area, and might just be wrong guesses early in a format because he doesn't know what decks are going to get played. Yeah a lot of it's guesswork but these guys are more experienced and better at it than a lot of other players, so at least starting from where they are and forcing yourself to put reason to any changes is a solid exercise and usually worth doing
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Apr 1, 2015 16:31
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Death Bot posted:Worth noting that there's just gonna be a lot of wild meta calls/reactions that won't necessarily fit with what everyone's dealing with in their own area, and might just be wrong guesses early in a format because he doesn't know what decks are going to get played. Yeah a lot of it's guesswork but these guys are more experienced and better at it than a lot of other players, so at least starting from where they are and forcing yourself to put reason to any changes is a solid exercise and usually worth doing Reid actually said that the reason he played that list is that he had no idea what the meta game would look like at an Invitational the day of the release of a new set. He just liked that deck the best.
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Apr 1, 2015 16:33
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Madmarker posted:you came out $5.50-$7.00 ahead, not bad. Nice mcmagic posted:I feel like the EV of a pack of DTK is about 25 cents... At least the ones I've opened... I believe it  i couldn't help myself
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Apr 1, 2015 16:38
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Last year's April fools kicked rear end because Bruce Richard took over Gavin's column and did a really subtle and excellent takedown. Search "from Brimaz to Blitz."
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Apr 1, 2015 16:43
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April 1st is to comedy as St Patrick's Day is to Irish culture.
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Apr 1, 2015 16:49
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Source your quotes.
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Apr 1, 2015 16:52
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Entropic posted:April 1st is to comedy as St Patrick's Day is to Irish culture. This video sums up my feelings on the subject of April Fool's Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYXuXX48m8
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Apr 1, 2015 16:52
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Elyv posted:It's the worst day of the year to be online, and dailymtg is doing their part.
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Apr 1, 2015 17:09
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Entropic posted:April 1st is to comedy as St Patrick's Day is to Irish culture. Thanks John Oliver.
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Apr 1, 2015 17:48
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So why is Kozilek worth the most out of all 3 Eldrazi?  Am I missing something?
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BattleCake posted:So why is Kozilek worth the most out of all 3 Eldrazi? the answer is always edh
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Apr 1, 2015 17:50
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BattleCake posted:So why is Kozilek worth the most out of all 3 Eldrazi? Emrakul's banned in Commander.
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i guess soemtimes it's modern
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BattleCake posted:So why is Kozilek worth the most out of all 3 Eldrazi? Because there is a confirmed Emrakul reprint.
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BattleCake posted:So why is Kozilek worth the most out of all 3 Eldrazi? Emrakul had a prerelease version and Ulamog has a From the Vault
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DarkRider09 posted:I'm also still playing Temur Midrange. I haven't made any swaps yet for dragons, but I've been trying to figure out what would work. My main problem with Shaman of the Great Hunt is 2 toughness, 4 power, on the ground. That's a combination of not being able to block effectively or break through on offense, on top of being really easy to chump/dies to Not-Shock or Magma Jet. I mean the card is good, I just think it would work better in the aggro variant, where turn 1 and 2 is mystic into Heir/Fanatic. I do think both Sarkhans can be played in the same deck, both of them fuel Thunderbreak's effects and also Silumgar's Scorn, which is a really powerful spell even when you don't have a dragon.
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black potus posted:the answer is always edh More specifically, Kozilek is considered the best Eldrazi General since drawing 4 cards is more important than indestructibility/nuking one card in EDH. Plus, he costs 1 less. Count Bleck posted:My main problem with Shaman of the Great Hunt is 2 toughness, 4 power, on the ground. Shaman works best in decks where he can get in a couple times, first, due to the board presence limitations Count Bleck lists. I do love his interaction with Flamewake Phoenix, and I'm hoping to see more of it going foward. (Probably not )
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Apr 1, 2015 18:06
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Count Bleck posted:In the event that anybody still cares about Temur Midrange, I updated the decklist for Dragons of Tarkir. Running two versions of Sarkhan isn't really a serious issue the way I see it. Either of them staying on the board is basically you winning. However, I don't like Silumgar's Scorn in this deck because I think double-blue is too greedy, but let me know how it works. My deck is really, really similar, except that I have Crater's Claws instead of Scorn and I'm running 3 Draconic Roar. Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:How is dredge not number one vintage territory? The same reason Dredge is likely to finish VSL 0-7 Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Apr 1, 2015 18:09
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Angry Grimace posted:The same reason Dredge is likely to finish VSL 0-7 VSL results spoilers: It actually went 0-9, including multiple "mull to 0 looking for Bazaar" game losses.
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Kyrosiris posted:VSL results spoilers: It actually went 0-9, including multiple "mull to 0 looking for Bazaar" game losses. well mulling to 0 is actually strictly worse than mulling to 1 so they had it coming
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Apr 1, 2015 18:20
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Efro especially had some brutally bad luck with it. 3/9 games he hit the 6% chance lotto to completely fail to find a bazaar in all his mulls. Twice he got turn two'd by Doomsday with discard backup, one of those times with counter back up.
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Elyv posted:well mulling to 0 is actually strictly worse than mulling to 1 so they had it coming Well they were effective mulls to 0, like keeping a hand of just Narcomoeba. 
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Kyrosiris posted:Well they were effective mulls to 0, like keeping a hand of just Narcomoeba. This might actually be worse than mulling to 0.
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Apr 1, 2015 18:32
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Elyv posted:well mulling to 0 is actually strictly worse than mulling to 1 so they had it coming Technically it isn't because Narcomoeba in your hand is useless.  If it was just that, I'd mull to 0 and see if my opening draw was Bazaar of Baghdad. Count Bleck posted:My main problem with Shaman of the Great Hunt is 2 toughness, 4 power, on the ground. If you want a card in the slot that Shaman was going in, you probably want Surrak. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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Apr 1, 2015 18:39
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Angry Grimace posted:Technically it isn't because Narcomoeba in your hand is useless. Keeping Narco is probably better because the only way you're winning is by drawing Bazaar in the first draw step and you lose about .11% on that by mulliganing to zero.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Emrakul had a prerelease version and Ulamog has a From the Vault Fair enough. Thanks!
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BattleCake posted:Fair enough. Thanks! also emrakul is apparently banned in EDH
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Elyv posted:also emrakul is apparently banned in EDH Turns out that its very, very easy to generate 15 colorless mana in 3 turns in EDH, time walk, and the completely take someone out of the game.
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Emrakul was worth slightly more than the others when it was legal in EDH. Then Ulamog was worth the most until a few months after the reprint. Also the problem with Emrakul wasn't even ramping into it. It was banned because it made games a race to cast Bribery first.
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Ultima66 posted:Emrakul was worth slightly more than the others when it was legal in EDH. Then Ulamog was worth the most until a few months after the reprint. Everyday I go without remembering Bribery is a card is a good day.
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Count Bleck posted:Everyday I go without remembering Bribery is a card is a good day. I once lived the dream with Jhoira in EDH. Suspended... Something, I'm not sure what. Cycled Decree of Annihilation. As we rebuilt, I got to five lands + Bribery first, cast Bribery. A turn or two later, Snapcaster Mage, targetting Bribery.
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