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Four Score posted:Now imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff. Oh MODO, will there ever come a time when you are not the lowest hanging fruit on the tree? For real content, I'm really thinking Slawomir Maniak might be my favorite Magic artist. Dude does solid work that's pretty much always awesome. He even manages to have his own style that hasn't been whitebreaded to poo poo by the style guide.
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born on a buy you posted:look at this dude not understanding how changing one class can cause lots of unintended side effects. gifts calling enterGrave() instead of enterGrave.Gifts() or whatever Magic is super complicated but MODO is clearly built wrong. As long as we all keep railing drafts, though, there really is no incentive to improve. edit: and DOTP proves that while its very hard to program something that plays Magic well, its not impossible to program the rules correctly Terrible Horse fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Apr 2, 2015 06:54
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We can make it a Goon Project. Goon MODO, or GOODO as I like to call it. When the project fails spectacularly like they tend to, the thread can be called "Waiting for GOODO".
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Apr 2, 2015 06:59
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Terrible Horse posted:gifts calling enterGrave() instead of enterGrave.Gifts() or whatever It actually gets quite a lot harder when you're talking about the entire card pool rather than just a subset of easy-to-implement cards. Think about how things like Magical Hack or Blood Moon or Balduvian Shaman affect the way you can implement other cards.
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Apr 2, 2015 07:02
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It's a bit late but the best Magic April Fool's joke was clearly this thread.
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Four Score posted:We can make it a Goon Project. Goon MODO, or GOODO as I like to call it. When the project fails spectacularly like they tend to, the thread can be called "Waiting for GOODO". ill make the website Jabor posted:It actually gets quite a lot harder when you're talking about the entire card pool rather than just a subset of easy-to-implement cards. Think about how things like Magical Hack or Blood Moon or Balduvian Shaman affect the way you can implement other cards. its definitely harder, I know that. and occasional breaks should be expected. old cards breaking every time a new set comes out means that somethings really hosed though
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Apr 2, 2015 07:03
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Terrible Horse posted:ill make the website Well it certainly means they don't have a regression suite, which is ridiculous since the system is so perfectly set up to be testable.
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Apr 2, 2015 07:10
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Now I'm wondering if there were keyword mechanics that were developed for new sets that ended up being rejected because MODO programmers came back and were like, "Yeah, that's too hard to program into MODO."
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Apr 2, 2015 07:18
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I know they streamline stuff for MODO, like limiting effects to creatures your opponents control to stop misclicks, or stopping triggers happening when they don't need to. If you've resolved a suspend spell you know that stuff takes a million clicks to get through.
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Apr 2, 2015 08:26
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qbert posted:Now I'm wondering if there were keyword mechanics that were developed for new sets that ended up being rejected because MODO programmers came back and were like, "Yeah, that's too hard to program into MODO." According to MaRo, Future Sight tried to do stuff based off Time Machine from Unhinged, but MODO couldn't handle keeping track of information from one game to the next. Somehow.
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Apr 2, 2015 09:08
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Minority Deport posted:According to MaRo, Future Sight tried to do stuff based off Time Machine from Unhinged, but MODO couldn't handle keeping track of information from one game to the next. Somehow. I can believe that, they probably hardcoded the game to reset after each round or something like that.
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Lancelot posted:I know they streamline stuff for MODO, like limiting effects to creatures your opponents control to stop misclicks, or stopping triggers happening when they don't need to. If you've resolved a suspend spell you know that stuff takes a million clicks to get through. They also got rid of "you may" on beneficial abilities, so that you don't need to click yes all the time. Which is kind of funny, because they originally started using "may" to help streamline physical play.
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Apr 2, 2015 10:43
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Last night I played my Zedruu in some Commander on MODO and was able to flash in Teferi at EOT and then cast Knowledge Pool. For those who don't know, due to Teferi's clause where opponents can only cast spells when they cast a sorcery, they aren't allowed to cast the 2nd spell from the Pool. Since it was April Fools (APRIL FOOLS LOL RIGHT), I didn't bother telling people the interactions to see what they would do. I am about 80% sure they had no idea how this rules corner case works, and just assumed the client was bugged (esp since there was so much of that going on yesterday).
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Apr 2, 2015 14:21
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Chill la Chill posted:The best part is hearing about the people asking for coders in magic shops and offering a huge pay cut for local rates - including a senior project manager. Yeah, they're trying to run what should be a professional software development studio as if it were still an experimental side project on a shoestring budget. Anyone in the Seattle area who could do good work on MTGO is working for Microsoft or Amazon or Valve or any of the dozens of other software companies based in the area who pay twice as much and might have less terrible management. The only people working for MTGO are the coders who either weren't good enough to get a job at Microsoft or are willing to take a huge paycut because they love Magic so much. And they're perpetually in crunch time / crisis mode as they add new sets because they for some reason don't want to higher another dozen people to work on the less urgent stuff like improving the UI.
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Apr 2, 2015 15:12
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Death Bot posted:There was a point where it was $80 at my LGS. VoR spiked hard for a bit, as the only worthwhile card in a small set that no one liked. I just laugh whenever I see or play that card since its generically the best card ever. Like, Voice of Resurgence isn't actually the best card ever printed, but practically anyone who even vaguely knows how to play Magic can look at that card and say, "this card is loving overpowered."
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Apr 2, 2015 16:50
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Angry Grimace posted:I just laugh whenever I see or play that card since its generically the best card ever. Except for goons in this thread when the card was spoiled.
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Apr 2, 2015 16:53
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Dr. Stab posted:Except for goons in this thread when the card was spoiled. It's actually pretty funny when you have people who know how to play but don't follow current sets since creatures have gotten so good. I have a friend who knows how to play because we played in high school during Revised and I brought over the M15 Clash Pack to play one time and he cast Courser of Kruphix and read the card literally like 5 times and couldn't get over how good that card was.
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Apr 2, 2015 16:58
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Angry Grimace posted:I just laugh whenever I see or play that card since its generically the best card ever. Yup. I know exactly what it is, and what it does, and i still gently caress up against it. I cast EOT peek when someone had it out, like I just hosed up and in my head I was like "i'm not bolting it" That token was the primary thing that killed me like two turns later.
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Apr 2, 2015 17:06
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I'm looking for a good site for prices on MTGO. Specifically, I saw a site once that displayed multiple buyers and sellers, so you could see who had the lowest and highest buys and sells for particular cards. Sound familiar to anyone? Most sites I've found like MTGOTraders just list one price, their own.
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Apr 2, 2015 19:08
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That's the MTGO Library page. I don't have a link but it should be accessible off their main page.
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Apr 2, 2015 19:11
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MTGGoldfish will show you averages
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Apr 2, 2015 19:11
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Emerson Cod posted:That's the MTGO Library page. I don't have a link but it should be accessible off their main page.
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Apr 2, 2015 19:20
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Does anyone have a good guide on building commander decks? I want to make legitimately casual decks with the Elder Dragons from DTK as the commanders (I don't really care if they're good commanders or not, they're Elder dragons that don't have upkeep costs)
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Apr 2, 2015 20:41
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Angry Grimace posted:legitimately casual 
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Apr 2, 2015 20:55
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Angry Grimace posted:Does anyone have a good guide on building commander decks? I want to make legitimately casual decks with the Elder Dragons from DTK as the commanders (I don't really care if they're good commanders or not, they're Elder dragons that don't have upkeep costs) Tell me your playgroup's relative skill level and philosophy on competition and understanding of game theory.
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Apr 2, 2015 20:58
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Limit yourself to cards from FRF/DTK and play out the Tarkir Dragon Wars 
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C-Euro posted:Limit yourself to cards from FRF/DTK and play out the Tarkir Dragon Wars
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Grifter posted:I'm looking for a good site for prices on MTGO. Specifically, I saw a site once that displayed multiple buyers and sellers, so you could see who had the lowest and highest buys and sells for particular cards. Sound familiar to anyone? Most sites I've found like MTGOTraders just list one price, their own.
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Apr 2, 2015 21:48
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The anafenza story was a good read
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Apr 2, 2015 21:53
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http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=9470&d=254302&f=MO It looks like Collected Company is the real deal. http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=9463&f=MO also lmao modern sure looks healthy
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TheKingofSprings posted:http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=9470&d=254302&f=MO It looks like Collected Company is the real deal. That collected company deck looks terrible. I like it much better in the Zoo shell but I don't think either are all that great.
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TheKingofSprings posted:http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=9470&d=254302&f=MO It looks like Collected Company is the real deal. #2 deck in the modern PTQ with singleton Peek over Git Probe. THIS IS GOOD MAGIC, BROS.
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mcmagic posted:That collected company deck looks terrible. and this is how I know it's good
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Toshimo posted:#2 deck in the modern PTQ with singleton Peek over Git Probe. THIS IS GOOD MAGIC, BROS. Twin always plays Peek over Probe...
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mcmagic posted:Twin always plays Peek over Probe... Yeah Peek is pretty useful one-of when considering to go for the combo, wtf are you even talking about Toshino? iirc it was even in the winning modern PT list and it's certainly been around lots before.
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Apr 2, 2015 22:06
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People like to pile on mcmagic, but Toshimo has equally and consistently bad opinions on Magic: the Gathering (tm).
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whydirt posted:People like to pile on mcmagic, but Toshimo has equally and consistently bad opinions on Magic: the Gathering (tm). His opinions are much worse than anything I say. He didn't even know the deck he's bitching about...
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Apr 2, 2015 22:10
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He also has a fat bee avatar in tyool 2015
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Apr 2, 2015 22:12
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TheKingofSprings posted:and this is how I know it's good I want to splash Green in Merfolk for it. Let me live the dream.
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