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I haven't enjoyed the season as much as the first two, but I actually liked that episode a lot - minus the flash back. It shook up the status quo a lot and Arrow shouldn't rest in one state for too long. Really glad they gave Blackstone something solid to work with this week, though. He killed it. I'm really hoping everything converges soon, though. After the first two episodes, minus... what, two exceptions... Ray's basically been his own mini show within Arrow with Felicity basically bouncing between the sets and scenes and it's getting jarring. I know it's more or less all set up for the new show, but everything else meshes pretty well, but Ray's just kind hovering out on the edge doing his own thing and barely interacting with the show he's on.
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Apr 2, 2015 16:56
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That episode was great gently caress the haters. It's not up to Slade Wilson's continual gently caress You to Oliver Queen but it was pretty good TV.
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Apr 2, 2015 17:31
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I like the fact that this season there are two big bads. Ra's, and Ollie's bad decisions catching up with him.
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Apr 2, 2015 17:56
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I like the fact that this season there are two big bads. Ra's, and Ollie's bad decisions catching up with him. Final boss is The Spectre
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Apr 2, 2015 17:57
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Bad Moon posted:That episode was great gently caress the haters. It's not up to Slade Wilson's continual gently caress You to Oliver Queen but it was pretty good TV. I don't care how stupid the plot got, those were some grade A chase scenes they shot.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:05
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Krad posted:I don't care how stupid the plot got, those were some grade A chase scenes they shot. The action scenes were really on point this week, definitely.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:07
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Bad Moon posted:That episode was great gently caress the haters. It's not up to Slade Wilson's continual gently caress You to Oliver Queen but it was pretty good TV. Seiously, this thread needs to loving relax. That was one of the better episode of the series, stop trying to justify your dumbass "show sucks now" narratives.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:20
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Bad Moon posted:That episode was great gently caress the haters. It's not up to Slade Wilson's continual gently caress You to Oliver Queen but it was pretty good TV. My big complaint was Team Arrow's constant "You can't do this Oliver" when he goes to turn himself in when...what other choice does he have? Go to war with the police? Become R'as? This way the killing stops and R'as hasn't won.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:22
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howe_sam posted:My big complaint was Team Arrow's constant "You can't do this Oliver" when he goes to turn himself in when...what other choice does he have? Go to war with the police? Become R'as? This way the killing stops and R'as hasn't won. They almost literally tell him that every single time he wants to get out of the Arrow Cave.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:24
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To be fair to Arrow, it's had the rather lovely job of following Flash all season, and thats a tough act to follow. I've been digging this poo poo, but i'm a massive Batman fan, and i'm  for all things League of Assassins
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Apr 2, 2015 18:26
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFk7uixvN9s Looks like Roy isn't gonna make it though  no more unnecessary parkour 
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Apr 2, 2015 18:26
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Scyantific posted:
Holy poo poo. It's a shame we have to wait a week, because this is badass.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:29
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I think it is great how... " " Ray is about being a superhero. From his "Hey, I'm Ray!" in the Flash promos to his "High five!" in this one. Arrow needs a guy like that so of course he is being moved to the new show...Also looks like Oliver and Ray are going to train Avatar-style bring back old gbs fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Apr 2, 2015 18:30
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What does Oliver call himself in that promo? I understood the first part "Al-Shaheed" but what was that second part? Also people are already flipping out about how that lady at the end might be Talia.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:32
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I like the fact that this season there are two big bads. Ra's, and Ollie's bad decisions catching up with him. It's more like Ollie's new bad decisions to make up for the old bad decisions.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:33
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Scyantific posted:What does Oliver call himself in that promo? I understood the first part "Al-Shaheed" but what was that second part? Also people are already flipping out about how that lady at the end might be Talia. Al Ghul.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:37
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raditts posted:It was hilarious, because it wouldn't be out of character for Laurel to just jump off the building because Ollie and Roy did, and then mid-fall being like "wait, you guys have ropes??? gently caress" What bugs me is that the building they were in was supposedly like a 4 story parking garage. They show that in the "Scan" image, they have cops drive up on top of it. The moment they jump off though they're on the top of a 30 floor office building. M_Gargantua fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Apr 2, 2015 18:37
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zoux posted:Seiously, this thread needs to loving relax. That was one of the better episode of the series, stop trying to justify your dumbass "show sucks now" narratives. The start of the episode and that big long chase scene was really good, the whole thing with Ray and Felcitiy was completely ridiculous, Lance finding out about Oliver was great, the fact that he handed himself in when there was no proof is ridiculous. Along with the lacklustre flashbacks. Yeah, bits were good, but there was a lot of bad bits too
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He handed himself in because the police were hunting him down and kicking in doors and he knew it was a matter of time until someone got killed. By handing himself in, he was also able making to make the deal to get immunity for Roy, Dig and Felicity, please pay attention to the show you are watching.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:40
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zoux posted:He handed himself in because the police were hunting him down and kicking in doors and he knew it was a matter of time until someone got killed. By handing himself in, he was also able making to make the deal to get immunity for Roy, Dig and Felicity, please pay attention to the show you are watching. Additionally, he turned himself in to prevent the League from killing more people. The flashbacks were a drag on the episode, but that's been a problem since day one.
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Scyantific posted:
Just because he has to fight some dudes in prison? I think Roy will be fine.
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Valeyard posted:The start of the episode and that big long chase scene was really good, the whole thing with Ray and Felcitiy was completely ridiculous, Lance finding out about Oliver was great, the fact that he handed himself in when there was no proof is ridiculous. Along with the lacklustre flashbacks. On the other hand, the Ray scenes were buildup to him getting injected with nanomachines that can shrink How is that not enough to justify those scenes?
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King of Solomon posted:On the other hand, the Ray scenes were buildup to him getting injected with nanomachines that can shrink Other people have already pointed out the problems with that, it was a quick injection he could have gave himself. There wasn't any need to talk about people potentially going to prison and threatening doctor's with lawyers and manufacturing these "dramatic" moments  zoux posted:He handed himself in because the police were hunting him down and kicking in doors and he knew it was a matter of time until someone got killed. By handing himself in, he was also able making to make the deal to get immunity for Roy, Dig and Felicity, please pay attention to the show you are watching. hcreight posted:Additionally, he turned himself in to prevent the League from killing more people. Yeah, the police hunting him done was stupid as gently caress. The Captain of their police force was beaten up and taken to a warehouse, and then told by the head of a group of assassins that Oliver Queen is the Arrow and then that is enough to out him on the news? Come on
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Valeyard posted:Other people have already pointed out the problems with that, it was a quick injection he could have gave himself. There wasn't any need to talk about people potentially going to prison and threatening doctor's with lawyers and manufacturing these "dramatic" moments The fact that he could have done it himself is irrelevant. The buildup lead to the event actually happening, which is the important thing.
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A hospital can hold you against your will.Valeyard posted:Yeah, the police hunting him done was stupid as gently caress. The Captain of their police force was beaten up and taken to a warehouse, and then told by the head of a group of assassins that Oliver Queen is the Arrow and then that is enough to out him on the news? Come on He doesn't have to tell them how he got the information.
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"Why would I believe you" "Because when I do everything will become clear" Like the show directly addressed all these concerns, I'm not manufacturing rationale, again, pay attention.
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Aphrodite posted:A hospital can hold you against your will. I think they can only hold you if you are suicide risk, otherwise you can waive any liability to the hospital and leave King of Solomon posted:The fact that he could have done it himself is irrelevant. The buildup lead to the event actually happening, which is the important thing. True, it's going to be really ownage when Ray finally get's going which looks like it's gonna go that route next week. And then he is gonna break off into his own show 
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Aphrodite posted:A hospital can hold you against your will. Hopefully when Ollie gets time on his hands when not being murdered he can sue them for slander and get some of his cash back
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Valeyard posted:Other people have already pointed out the problems with that, it was a quick injection he could have gave himself. There wasn't any need to talk about people potentially going to prison and threatening doctor's with lawyers and manufacturing these "dramatic" moments To be fair, this is the same police force that has a HQ overran by gangs/superthugs at least four separate times with no upgrades to security.
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If this whole thing leads to the residents of Starling City standing up one by one and saying "NO, I am The Arrow!" then it will all be worth itScyantific posted:
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Aside from the fact Lance has zero evidence against Oliver, the entire threat of the episode - the reveal of his secret identity has ZERO narrative weight at this point. There are no stakes. Oliver has no one to hide his identity from. His family know, his villains know. He has no day job, no friends outside of Team Arrow, no civilian life at all. He presumably spends his entire day training in the Arrowcave. So what is the pretense? What is the cost? Oliver Queen as a character has been the Arrow and never an alter ego for this entire season . On that note, is Diggle still getting a salary from him? How is he supporting himself? imperialparadox posted:Couldn't Ray have just injected himself with the nano's to help keep Felicity out of trouble?
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VagueRant posted:Aside from the fact Lance has zero evidence against Oliver, the entire threat of the episode - the reveal of his secret identity has ZERO narrative weight at this point. There are no stakes. Oliver has no one to hide his identity from. His family know, his villains know. He has no day job, no friends outside of Team Arrow, no civilian life at all. He presumably spends his entire day training in the Arrowcave. So what is the pretense? What is the cost? His freedom?
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I like that the trailer cuts from Ray telling Ollie they are going to "team up" to Ollie banging Felicity. Perhaps the show is going to go in a different direction
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Valeyard posted:I like that the trailer cuts from Ray telling Ollie they are going to "team up" to Ollie banging Felicity. Perhaps the show is going to go in a different direction It probably is a reason Ray will not continue being on the show and will be on the spinoff e: also what did they say earlier this season? ollicity is about 50/50? So we got 50% boning Ray Palmer and 50% boning Ollie...I guess they weren't lying. I wish I had her bad luck though, all she seems to have done since college is create a supervirus that enabled a cyber terrorist to do...something? and fall into bed with billionaires
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Scyantific posted:What does Oliver call himself in that promo? I understood the first part "Al-Shaheed" but what was that second part? Also people are already flipping out about how that lady at the end might be Talia. When I plug that name into google it hits on The Marytr's memorial which seems kinda lovely considering Roy is probably getting shanked in prison on Oliver's behalf. Maybe a native speaker can clarify if that's accurate? Or if it's this http://islamqa.info/en/11194 I'm going to laugh my rear end off.
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God drat that trailer gave me a nerd boner. Ray is the best. "High Five!"
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Oh Rhyno, who did you piss off this time.
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VagueRant posted:By the way, what was the second name Lance listed off as Oliver failing to save people? Sounded like "Tommy, [Hilton?], your mother, my daughter." I had absolutely zero idea who that was as well but figured it was just someone we were supposed to know. But now I'm curious... http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Lucas_Hilton_%28Arrow%29 Okay, apparently it was Lance's old partner, the guy from Continuum and First Wave. Sorry Lance, I forgot that guy ever existed he died like years ago.
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McSpanky posted:Oh Rhyno, who did you piss off this time. A bunch of people in BSS got them. It's DarkTittiesInMyFace's avatar.
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