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Tighclops posted:Morn: Origins Really now, who isn't going to watch this?
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Tighclops posted:If these movies and shows were being made today there would be all kinds of intra-brand synergy or whatever the gently caress like what Marvel is doing and we'd all be lamenting why DS9 and TNG can't just stand on their own instead of being used to set up the Ensign Sito Jaxa film trilogy and Morn: Origins The TNG movies pretty much failed to get any non-Trek fans interested in Trek, whereas the Marvel movies have gotten a whole shitload of non-comic book fans (including yours truly) interested in Marvel movies, mostly because they are entertaining and do not make me wish I had the last two hours of my life back. Heck, I saw Guardians of the Galaxy twice, it was that much fun. Morn: Origins culminates in the Bank of Bolias heist
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Apr 2, 2015 11:59
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I personally don't like Ryan Reynolds being cast as Quark in Morn: Origins: Fourth Stomach. It's disrespectful not just to Armin's original portrayal, but also to Peter Dinklage's in the previous film.
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Apr 2, 2015 12:02
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Jeez, thank you. I was starting to wonder whether I was the only person on earth who can't deal with all these superhero mishmash movies with random characters from dozens of different properties all thrown into a salad bowl and tossed from reboot to reboot every two years to rave reviews.
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Apr 2, 2015 12:28
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To be fair Marvel's been fairly coherent and not rebooty. Hulk aside. And they only salad bowl for the Avenger ones. Sony and Fox suck. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Apr 2, 2015 12:54
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Data Graham posted:Jeez, thank you. I was starting to wonder whether I was the only person on earth who can't deal with all these superhero mishmash movies with random characters from dozens of different properties all thrown into a salad bowl and tossed from reboot to reboot every two years to rave reviews. If you're referring to the three phase Avengers deal that Disney/Marvel is doing then you cray because linking that much good movie together is amazing and different. If you're talking about pointless Ghostbusters reboot when a sequel would have been better, followed by a misogynistic hate-reboot of the reboot that hasn't even happened yet, then yes it's really stupid.
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Apr 2, 2015 13:01
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"There's an old Vulcan proverb. Only Nixon could go to China." That is some quality beard.
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Apr 2, 2015 17:33
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Tighclops posted:If these movies and shows were being made today there would be all kinds of intra-brand synergy or whatever the gently caress like what Marvel is doing and we'd all be lamenting why DS9 and TNG can't just stand on their own instead of being used to set up the Ensign Sito Jaxa film trilogy and Morn: Origins Well, if you want to get pedantic, Marvel figured out in the 90s (I think) that they can't do crossovers that require you to purchase every book Marvel prints just to know whats going on, so now they'll have the main crossover event book that can be understood by itself and all the regular comic lines are just side stories that fill in the gaps. The Marvel movies mostly work the same way in that you don't really need to watch Captain America to enjoy Avengers. What is that glowing blue box? Who cares, it has powers and the bad guys want it. Why does Tony Stark have PTSD in Iron Man 3? Because something involving aliens happened in Avengers.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:29
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Has anyone seen Planet Earth? It's a pilot Gene Roddenberry made after Star Trek and it's the most hosed up thing. John Saxon leads a team including Lurch from the Adams Family to explore a post-apocalyptic Earth from some super-advanced San Francisco that uses the same shopping mall as Conquest of the Planet of the Apes for location shooting. The premise seems like Star Trek, except that they drive a super-advanced train around in old subway tunnels and visit different post-apocalyptic cities instead of planets. In this one, they visit a city of dominatrixes led by Diana Muldaur, Dr. Pulaski from TNG, and John Saxon gets tied up and whipped a bunch before he gets Dr. Pulaski drunk and has sex with her to make her realize she was wrong to want to enslave all men. There are lot of weird, long scenes of giggling women ripping off John Saxon's clothes and shoving him around, and way too many establishing shots of shirtless men pulling plows. It looks like if it had gone to series, they would have visited a different one of Gene's sexual fetishes every week. At one point, John Saxon philosophizes, "women's lib, or women's lib gone mad?" when faced with a city run by women. Then later he announces the necessity of men's lib before he rapes an unconscious Diana Muldaur. It's even more uncomfortable than this makes it sound. Has anyone seen any of his other pilots, and are they this hosed up?
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Apr 2, 2015 19:38
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I personally don't like Ryan Reynolds being cast as Quark in Morn: Origins: Fourth Stomach. It's disrespectful not just to Armin's original portrayal, but also to Peter Dinklage's in the previous film. I think you are mistaken, Peter Dinklage played Nog.
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Apr 2, 2015 20:03
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Jack Gladney posted:Has anyone seen Planet Earth? It's a pilot Gene Roddenberry made after Star Trek and it's the most hosed up thing. John Saxon leads a team including Lurch from the Adams Family to explore a post-apocalyptic Earth from some super-advanced San Francisco that uses the same shopping mall as Conquest of the Planet of the Apes for location shooting. The premise seems like Star Trek, except that they drive a super-advanced train around in old subway tunnels and visit different post-apocalyptic cities instead of planets. In this one, they visit a city of dominatrixes led by Diana Muldaur, Dr. Pulaski from TNG, and John Saxon gets tied up and whipped a bunch before he gets Dr. Pulaski drunk and has sex with her to make her realize she was wrong to want to enslave all men. There are lot of weird, long scenes of giggling women ripping off John Saxon's clothes and shoving him around, and way too many establishing shots of shirtless men pulling plows. It looks like if it had gone to series, they would have visited a different one of Gene's sexual fetishes every week.  I definitely have not seen this or his other not-Star-Trek-pilots and to be honest I'm glad I haven't! I suppose we shouldn't be surprised Gene would make something like this...On the topic of Gene being awful to women, one lady who definitely deserves more praise for the poo poo she's gone though from Gene is Grace Lee Whitney who just turned 85 yesterday. She was the very first Trek actress/actor I ever met at a con and she was by far the nicest when I got her signature. She probably writes "with love" for everyone when writing her signature but 12 year old me still thought it was super sweet of her  
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Apr 2, 2015 21:05
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Trent posted:If you're talking about pointless Ghostbusters reboot when a sequel would have been better Of the original cast, one is dead (and hadn't done anything funny in more than a decade), one wants nothing whatsoever to do with another film, and another is pretty much legitimately batshit insane (and also wrote Blues Brothers 2000). No, a sequel would not have been better.
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Apr 3, 2015 00:09
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Timby posted:Of the original cast, one is dead (and hadn't done anything funny in more than a decade), one wants nothing whatsoever to do with another film, and another is pretty much legitimately batshit insane (and also wrote Blues Brothers 2000). Sure it would. Ghosts come back, and their kids have to bust out the old gear - crazy young Venkman nerding out on psychic stuff her dad just used to get laid, Ms Stanz the lawyer argues to get them permission to fire up the old proton packs..... Whatever, something in universe would have been fine - ghostbusters - The Next Generation
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Apr 3, 2015 00:17
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Trent posted:Sure it would. Ghosts come back, and their kids have to bust out the old gear - crazy young Venkman nerding out on psychic stuff her dad just used to get laid, Ms Stanz the lawyer argues to get them permission to fire up the old proton packs..... The Ghostbusters Kids? Is this a rejected Happy Meal toy concept from the 90s?
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Apr 3, 2015 00:37
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Reboots are legit better than crappy sequel ideas like that.
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Apr 3, 2015 00:42
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People say Melora is a bad episode. I think Meridian is so much worse. The dude was just so bland.
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Apr 3, 2015 01:31
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Timby posted:Of the original cast, one is dead (and hadn't done anything funny in more than a decade), one wants nothing whatsoever to do with another film, and another is pretty much legitimately batshit insane (and also wrote Blues Brothers 2000). I've never seen the second Blues Brothers movie. I've seen two song clips from it and thought I was watching either a really bad Talking Heads music video from 1982 ("Funky Nassau") or the all-star jam from the end of a particularly underwhelming Grammys show ("New Orleans"). The Commitments was a much better follow-up to The Blues Brothers, of course, not least because Miles O'Brien was in it. 
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Apr 3, 2015 01:40
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Timby posted:Of the original cast, one is dead (and hadn't done anything funny in more than a decade), one wants nothing whatsoever to do with another film, and another is pretty much legitimately batshit insane (and also wrote Blues Brothers 2000). The only person in the cast who has done anything worthwhile in the last 10 years is Sigourney Weaver and she wants to do it almost as much as Bill Murray.
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Apr 3, 2015 01:42
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Just watched The Thaw. The last couple of minutes picked up but it made Threshold look like In The Pale Moonlight or The Measure of a Man. Holy poo poo that was worse than the last episode of TNG S2.  I feel like a 'Nam vet.
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Apr 3, 2015 01:54
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The real Ghostbusters sequel was the videogame anyway. (And it was not terrible, just overcomplicated. [that is not to say it was a good game, just that I had fun playing it.])
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Apr 3, 2015 01:56
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HIJK posted:The real Ghostbusters sequel was the videogame anyway. (And it was not terrible, just overcomplicated. [that is not to say it was a good game, just that I had fun playing it.]) Was this the Commodore 64 game? 
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Apr 3, 2015 01:58
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HIJK posted:The real Ghostbusters sequel was the videogame anyway. (And it was not terrible, just overcomplicated. [that is not to say it was a good game, just that I had fun playing it.]) It was a fun "hey remember this part from the movies? Now you're busting that ghost!" game until the GODDAMN END WITH THE GODDAMN CHERRUBS THAT YOU HAVE TO GODDAMN TETHER TO THE GODDAMN GATE AND IF YOU DIE IT"S A FIVE loving MINUTE RELOAD OF THE LEVEL  
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Apr 3, 2015 02:52
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Mister Adequate posted:Just watched The Thaw. The last couple of minutes picked up but it made Threshold look like In The Pale Moonlight or The Measure of a Man. Dude, that's what I've been saying. Just put your head down, shoulder your way through the rest of season 2, and you'll be fine.
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Apr 3, 2015 02:54
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bobkatt013 posted:The only person in the cast who has done anything worthwhile in the last 10 years is Sigourney Weaver and she wants to do it almost as much as Bill Murray. Hey, Ernie Hudson's been landing character roles pretty steadily. I don't know how he feels about doing Ghostbusters again but I imagine he wouldn't say no to a fat paycheck.
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Apr 3, 2015 04:10
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Mogomra posted:Dude, that's what I've been saying. Yes, because by the time you do that you'll be so broken you won't realize how terrible Voyager is.
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Apr 3, 2015 04:24
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:The Ghostbusters Kids? Is this a rejected Happy Meal toy concept from the 90s?  As a bonus the website is apparently still up, Space Jam style. http://www.extremeghostbusters.org/
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Apr 3, 2015 05:36
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Hey man even EXTREME GHOSTBUSTERS didn't have the starring characters being the literal offspring of the original cast all James Bond Jr style
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Apr 3, 2015 06:07
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Well if you want to get literal James Bond Jr. wasn't James Bond's offspring either. Unless maybe he was "Uncle James" in the sense that he was mommy's special friend. Anyway, since apparently this piece of information doesn't exist anywhere on the Internet and I'm too lazy to hook up my scanner, here's a relevant slanty photograph of a page from The Art of Star Trek.  I've always wondered why Scotty didn't get a kid.
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Apr 3, 2015 06:30
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Pfft, how ridiculous. The Federation would never send children into harm's way by filling their flagship up with them.
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Apr 3, 2015 06:35
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Hey man even EXTREME GHOSTBUSTERS didn't have the starring characters being the literal offspring of the original cast all James Bond Jr style James Bond Jnr was his nephew
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Apr 3, 2015 06:36
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Pakled posted:Pfft, how ridiculous. The Federation would never send children into harm's way by filling their flagship up with them. I guess I always assumed it was Picard's personal policy because if he was going to die in deep space, he was sure as gently caress going to take a few hundred snot-nosed little brats with him. That's the only reason I can think of for putting children in the Stardrive section of the ship and expecting them to run fast enough in case of an emergency separation.
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Apr 3, 2015 07:05
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VitalSigns posted:Well, the transporter combining the DNA of Neelix and Tuvok's clothes didn't make sense, but it was established back in TOS that "the transporter is magic and gently caress you don't ask questions".
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Apr 3, 2015 07:16
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Apple Jax posted:
If she's 85 now, that would make her about 36 or 37 for the first season of TOS? I would have guessed she was considerably younger, cuz in TOS she was a bombshell.
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Apr 3, 2015 08:00
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Knormal posted:Well if you want to get literal James Bond Jr. wasn't James Bond's offspring either. Unless maybe he was "Uncle James" in the sense that he was mommy's special friend. Defenders of the Earth did pretty much have the offspring around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLKzsynt5I And it was awesome.
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Apr 3, 2015 09:55
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Number_6 posted:If she's 85 now, that would make her about 36 or 37 for the first season of TOS? I would have guessed she was considerably younger, cuz in TOS she was a bombshell. Wow, way to objectify, Number_6
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Hey man even EXTREME GHOSTBUSTERS didn't have the starring characters being the literal offspring of the original cast all James Bond Jr style It'd be easy to make suck, but it could be a good movie, Mister No Imagination  It would probably suck, though, and so probably will the actual reboot Maybe we can get Michelle Rodriguez to ride a motorcycle with a bunch of slimers flanking her!
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Knormal posted:Well if you want to get literal James Bond Jr. wasn't James Bond's offspring either. Unless maybe he was "Uncle James" in the sense that he was mommy's special friend.
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Trent posted:Sure it would. Ghosts come back, and their kids have to bust out the old gear - crazy young Venkman nerding out on psychic stuff her dad just used to get laid, Ms Stanz the lawyer argues to get them permission to fire up the old proton packs..... gently caress the haters, that's a much more interesting concept than a reboot. The adult children of three guys who were lauded then vilified for saving the city from a giant marshmallow man and defacing an American icon would be thematically resonant as gently caress. They'd have to struggle with questions of whether or not to believe their dads' (or grandpas') old yarns. They'd have a mixture of embarrassment and admiration that they never really resolved in childhood and have been burying. Maybe Bill Murray's kids think they're hot poo poo and don't want to hang with everyone else's because their dads had a really bad falling out. It'll get the fans to wet themselves with the continuity, but it's an entirely new relationship, so you can show every contour of it without being boring and recycled. This thing writes itself. Obligatory "What Aykroyd's Really Up To and It's Fantastic": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKqjIv91Zx8
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To the folks saying that none of the Ghostbusters cast have done anything worthwhile in a decade: the gently caress? Bill Murray? The Monuments Men, St. Vincent, Lost in Translation, Hyde Park on Hudson, Moonrise Kingdom. That's just poo poo off the top of my head.  Dan Aykryod is pants-making GBS threads insane and talking about Ghostbusters makes me sad.  Harold Ramis and Dan Aykroyd's sanity.Also: Melissa McCarthy is going to be in the Ghostbusters reboot, so I'm out. She's just not funny. I've seen her in two movies and her sense of humor just annoys me.
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Vengeance of Pandas posted:Defenders of the Earth did pretty much have the offspring around. How has it been almost thirty years since that came out and this is the first I'm hearing of it?
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