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biggfoo posted:Henry remains the best. He's going to love the internet. That and Lockheed built the F117 while the B2 was Northrop's project.
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So much poo poo went down I almost forgot that it's now confirmed the defector lady is actually a spy. But Christ, what an episode. Didn't see Paige cornering them like that even with the Pastor Tim setup.
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Apr 2, 2015 13:52
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Paige is annoying and that pastor is a d-bag
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Apr 2, 2015 13:56
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And Martha's missing from work.
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I still suspect the pastor is more than he claims. Maybe he was working for the Soviets and his role was to help kindle Paige's suspicions to hasten her confronting her parents and the subsequent reveal. Now they've got no choice but to start showing her the ropes of the spy business. Amazing acting from Matthew Rhys, Kerri Russell, and Holly Taylor this week. And any episode with Henry talking too much and nobody listening is great in my book  .
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Apr 2, 2015 15:48
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For all the horrific poo poo they've seen and done I don't think I've seen Phil and Liz look more terrified than while confronting their teenage daughter. "Paige, sweetie, let me explain to you how dropping cars on people and folding dead women into suitcases is furthering the cause of peace and equality."
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Apr 2, 2015 16:01
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bowser posted:I still suspect the pastor is more than he claims. Maybe he was working for the Soviets and his role was to help kindle Paige's suspicions to hasten her confronting her parents and the subsequent reveal. Now they've got no choice but to start showing her the ropes of the spy business. I kinda picked up on that, too. If that's the case, though, I doubt he's been involved from the get go. Maybe the Center is holding something over him to make him do it.
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Apr 2, 2015 16:56
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I don't think Pastor Tim is involved with the Soviets, it just seems like way too much of a stretch. I do think it's possible that there are hidden layers there, and I'm interested to see if the writers use his character to prompt Paige's recruitment in some fashion, perhaps with a church-related scandal that shatters her faith.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:00
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I'd be very disappointed if he turned out to be a spy for anyone. I'd rather like it if he was just an honest guy who thinks Paige is a pretty good person who's having some problems that he wants to help her work through.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:27
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The character doesn't really need to be in the intelligence business for him to be a nemesis for them, they're already staunch atheists I really do want philip to merc that guy though
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Apr 2, 2015 18:51
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The best part about Stan showing up is that I'm sure by now him and Elizabeth and Phillip are just pure friends and they're not pumping him for information ever. But of course Paige is gonna read into that way too much, which is amazing.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:54
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Spoiler for this week's Americans podcast: They get about 5 minutes into the interview with Holly Taylor, then Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell barge in and a producer's voice cuts in saying they all ended up chatting and the interview never got going again. End of podcast.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:56
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Regarding Pastor Tim, I think it's simply that he has the straight forward agenda of bringing in as many new church members as possible. That's what those kinds of churches do. Paige being a convert isn't enough - that's why he invited them to travel as a family on that mission trip.
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Apr 2, 2015 20:05
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Sober posted:The best part about Stan showing up is that I'm sure by now him and Elizabeth and Phillip are just pure friends and they're not pumping him for information ever. But of course Paige is gonna read into that way too much, which is amazing. Well they have to be subtle. Sure they're friends, but Philip does still ask how things are going at work. He'll even follow-up. Beyond that he'll drop it because he's not an idiot. I'm sure Paige was having a huge "ah-hah!" moment when she realized her spy parents were having her FBI Counter Intelligence agent neighbor over for dinner.
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Apr 2, 2015 20:51
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Apr 2, 2015 21:38
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This show plays the stan/russian relationship perfectly imo. It could have been really lovely and probably would have ruined the show but I really like how its almost a non issue
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Apr 2, 2015 22:04
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comes along bort posted:That and Lockheed built the F117 while the B2 was Northrop's project. The F117 was a black project with a black budget while the B2 was gray. The Carter administration stated that they were looking to create a stealth bomber and appropriated funds for it. The F-117 also started earlier and flew earlier (which is why it also got retired earlier as the design was out of date)
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Apr 2, 2015 23:42
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The AV Club review had an insightful commentary on how they are leveraging the standard second kid problem in TV shows into good character beats for Henry. Generally the second kid in a show is superfluous, because all the meaty plot goes to one kid and there just isn't enough for the second character to do. So instead of making up a bunch of contrived poo poo (kind of like the breaking into houses to play games stuff from last season, imo), they just make it so that no one really pays attention to Henry. He just does his own thing, doesn't really care about what's going on, and is happy to get the attention he does. What good things they do with him is making him somewhat precocious and independent. He also reminds me a bit of myself, I've always done my own thing and I was the kid at the dinner table asking other adults perhaps too pointed questions. I think pretty much all of us, though, have tried to explain an SNL skit to our parents while they stared at us blankly and nodded patronizingly.
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How old is Paige supposed to be on the show? I'm just wondering why the Soviets want Paige involved. I can't think of too many plausible ways in which she could be used right now. The only thing I could think of is maybe filming herself having sex with a high level politician, or business man and blackmailing him with the video.
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Apr 3, 2015 04:42
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Love JP posted:How old is Paige supposed to be on the show? I'm just wondering why the Soviets want Paige involved. I can't think of too many plausible ways in which she could be used right now. The only thing I could think of is maybe filming herself having sex with a high level politician, or business man and blackmailing him with the video. I'm pretty sure they just want to indoctrinate her into the cause right now because she's young and impressionable, and that the plan for her in the longterm is to have her go through college and get a job in a government agency.
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Love JP posted:How old is Paige supposed to be on the show? I'm just wondering why the Soviets want Paige involved. I can't think of too many plausible ways in which she could be used right now. The only thing I could think of is maybe filming herself having sex with a high level politician, or business man and blackmailing him with the video. 15. Same age as Kimmy. Yeah they don't want her doing ops or anything right now, the endgame is to get her into the FBI or CIA or other similar high profile agency where she'll be able to pass background checks. Of course they might accelerate that timetable if they knew they only had 7 years left 
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Apr 3, 2015 04:52
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Love JP posted:How old is Paige supposed to be on the show? I'm just wondering why the Soviets want Paige involved. I can't think of too many plausible ways in which she could be used right now. The only thing I could think of is maybe filming herself having sex with a high level politician, or business man and blackmailing him with the video. They want someone working for them but with a 100% unimpeachable American-as-apple-pie background to be able run for CIA director (or something like that).
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zoux posted:Of course they might accelerate that timetable if they knew they only had 7 years left In a shocking twist, Phillip and Elizabeth prevent the collapse of the Soviet Union.  qbert posted:I'm pretty sure they just want to indoctrinate her into the cause right now because she's young and impressionable, and that the plan for her in the longterm is to have her go through college and get a job in a government agency. I wonder how much of that we'll see this season, or if familiarizing Paige with Soviet ideology will be pushed off until next year. It's a plot line that has a ton of potential and is so different from anything they've covered before. Baronash fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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zoux posted:
Russia still had spies after the collapse of the USSR. It's not like they quit being the most paranoid country in earth overnight in 91. I'd like to see what happens to their spies as Russia transitioned into its current kleptocratic mafia state.
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comes along bort posted:I'd like to see what happens to their spies as Russia transitioned into its current kleptocratic mafia state. they become president
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Tipping Pastor Tim will be trying to dip his fingers in the underage cookie jar and Phill will be hypocritically outraged!
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Apr 3, 2015 05:45
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comes along bort posted:Russia still had spies after the collapse of the USSR. It's not like they quit being the most paranoid country in earth overnight in 91. I'd like to see what happens to their spies as Russia transitioned into its current kleptocratic mafia state. Spinoff with Henry and Stan as FBI agents.
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Apr 3, 2015 06:21
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Crossover with the X-Files.
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withak posted:They want someone working for them but with a 100% unimpeachable American-as-apple-pie background to be able run for CIA director (or something like that). I don't even think it's supposed to be anything that big. They basically want to turn her into Martha, but better. Someone in a trusted position with the FBI or CIA who can pass along classified materials and other information.
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What worries me is exactly the fact that Paige is 15. She might have let ~Jesus into her heart~, but there's one thing she possesses now that all 15 year old girls would quite literally kill for, 'godly' or not... ...ultimate leverage over *both* of her parents. This could lead to all sorts of bullshit that I hope the writers of the show don't decide to take advantage of, like: "Hey, let me go to Africa with Pastor Tim or I'll tell Mr. Beeman you're both spies." "Hey Dad...you know, your Camaro's really nice. Oh, by the way, I'm 15 and I'll be getting my driver's license soon. ~JUST SAYIN'~." "Hey Mom...give me a hundred dollars to go shopping or I'll tell Mr. Beeman you and Dad are spies." "Tell your Russian friends that I want front-row tickets to (insert concert here) or I'll tell." BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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FuriousGeorge posted:For all the horrific poo poo they've seen and done I don't think I've seen Phil and Liz look more terrified than while confronting their teenage daughter.
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Love JP posted:How old is Paige supposed to be on the show? I'm just wondering why the Soviets want Paige involved. I can't think of too many plausible ways in which she could be used right now. The only thing I could think of is maybe filming herself having sex with a high level politician, or business man and blackmailing him with the video. what's this teenage girl good for except loving?
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Love JP posted:How old is Paige supposed to be on the show? I'm just wondering why the Soviets want Paige involved. I can't think of too many plausible ways in which she could be used right now. The only thing I could think of is maybe filming herself having sex with a high level politician, or business man and blackmailing him with the video. gross
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zVxTeflon posted:gross 
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Love JP posted:How old is Paige supposed to be on the show? I'm just wondering why the Soviets want Paige involved. I can't think of too many plausible ways in which she could be used right now. Yup, that's the way the spy business works. "Boop, you're a spy now." No training required. Now go gently caress a senator, dear.
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Let's also reflect on the fact that kids nowadays don't need spank banks like Henry's, they just need thumb drives that they, much like Victoria's Secret and Frederick's of Hollywood catalogs of old, also stupidly leave lying about and not secured after use. Memmmmmmorrrrrieeeeeeeessss, like the color of my minnnnnddddd...
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Party Plane Jones posted:The F117 was a black project with a black budget while the B2 was gray. The Carter administration stated that they were looking to create a stealth bomber and appropriated funds for it. The F-117 also started earlier and flew earlier (which is why it also got retired earlier as the design was out of date) Maybe good for the Russians it's the B-2, because the F-117 seems flawed. I may be talking out of my rear end, but when i hear F-117 the first thing that comes to mind is "shot down by Chetniks with a Soviet relic".
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Let's also reflect on the fact that kids nowadays don't need spank banks like Henry's, they just need thumb drives that they, much like Victoria's Secret and Frederick's of Hollywood catalogs of old, also stupidly leave lying about and not secured after use. This did take me back, actually. Never clipped stuff out of magazines, but my first experience back in 1990 or so was the older kid across the street's stash of Playboys hidden above one of the ceiling tiles in his room.
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Officer Sandvich posted:what's this teenage girl good for except loving? Pretty much. No access to sensitive info. Doesn't have the stomach for murder. It would take years to achieve a high ranking in any intelligence agency. Right now all she can offer is her young body.
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