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http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/19/8260073/google-ftc-leaked-anti-trust-report "According to the report, for one example, Google took content from companies like Yelp, TripAdvisor, and Amazon. In the latter case, Google lifted product rankings and placed them in their own search results for those products. When the companies complained to Google about the process, Google threatened to remove them entirely from results." http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/30/8314095/senate-panel-white-house-google-ftc "...according to The Wall Street Journal's original report, the FTC accidentally sent a previously unseen report to the Journal as part of a Freedom of Information Act request. The report, made by FTC staff, recommended suing Google for using its search dominance to hamper competition against companies like Amazon, Bing, and others"
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amazon's search works fine, the problem is the products are poorly curated so the search results can be total poo poo.
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Shaggar posted:amazon's search works fine, the problem is the products are poorly curated so the search results can be total poo poo. i don't like that i'm unable to order results in any way unless i pick a department first
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i don't like that i'm unable to order results in any way unless i pick a department first same. amazons great if u know precisely what your looking for. if u don't then it's real bad.
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Share Bear posted:it should be moc.elgoog but elgoog isn't exactly know for interface consistency mods please change thread title to Moc El Goog
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i don't like that i'm unable to order results in any way unless i pick a department first it's really weird that they haven'tg fixed this, it's such a common complaint
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duTrieux. posted:it's really weird that they haven'tg fixed this, it's such a common complaint it seems like a way to get the user to spend more time browsing and exposing themselves to products, or honing general searches without the department to the most generic desirable results I find it annoying too, but I always seem to forget the department first and spend more time paging through since the results are somewhat good enough
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yea i'm sure it has something to do with marketing metrics or brand engagement or something "measurable" like that i should ask my neighbor he's a "user experience manager" for glassdoor
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I was looking for random poo poo on Amazon yesterday cause I have free Prime for a bit and I found like 5 straight pages of the same item, zero variation or anything, all the same seller. no colour or size variation or anything and no "available in more varieties" button that they have when there's similar products with some small variation. I gave up pressing "next page" and left Shaggar posted:amazon's search works fine, the problem is the products are poorly curated so the search results can be total poo poo. so google has their job cut out for them because the whole rest of the Internet is so well curated already, got ya
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PleasureKevin posted:I was looking for random poo poo on Amazon yesterday cause I have free Prime for a bit and I found like 5 straight pages of the same item, zero variation or anything, all the same seller. no colour or size variation or anything and no "available in more varieties" button that they have when there's similar products with some small variation.
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duTrieux. posted:it's really weird that they haven'tg fixed this, it's such a common complaint taking the user to the department splashpage gives them an opportunity to gaze upon the fabulous deals posted thereon
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anthonypants posted:it's weird because they definitely have the ability to curate this poo poo, but i guess don't want to offend the one-off special snowflake marketplaces who don't want to be listed in the Other Sellers list, but who will still mark up their product 20% from amazon and add $15 in shipping marketplace sellers are a loving blight
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uncurable mlady posted:marketplace sellers are a loving blight 
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PleasureKevin posted:I was looking for random poo poo on Amazon yesterday cause I have free Prime for a bit and I found like 5 straight pages of the same item, zero variation or anything, all the same seller. no colour or size variation or anything and no "available in more varieties" button that they have when there's similar products with some small variation. plenty of retailers do a good job of curating products ex: newegg. The problem with amazon is that even though product categories have well defined attributes, they don't require those attributes for items in the category nor do they even require that the item belong in the category to be there. this is why you cant just drill down through product categories to get to what you want. also they do stupid poo poo like sometimes different versions of a product are listed separately and sometimes they are listed under one item page and other times they are done both ways. or like when they list tv seasons separately and out of order.
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like the later is obviously done to increase the apparent size of their library, but it ends up just making it harder to find anything
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how do amazon / newegg / best buy benefit from the dumb "marketplace" poo poo? don't people get mad when they realize they accidentally bought a TV from "crazy ed's lawnmower repair"
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no because they know that that's what they did. amazon/newegg/etc get a cut of the sale and many times also are being paid to house the product inventory. plus its useful as hell for products amazon doesn't carry. in the cases where amazon and a marketplace seller carry the same product, amazon is usually cheaper when shipping is factored in.
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but in the worst case scenario where amazon loses a sale to a marketplace provider, you still bought it on amazon.com and never considered going to crazyedslawnmowerrepair.com
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Shaggar posted:but in the worst case scenario where amazon loses a sale to a marketplace provider, you still bought it on amazon.com and never considered going to crazyedslawnmowerrepair.com and it keeps new sites like yourhomemarketplace.com from springing up and stealing amazon's sales
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horse mans posted:if you buy from amazon you support wage slavery (｡◕‿‿◕｡) every warehouse is exactly as bad as amazon
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:every warehouse is exactly as bad as amazon good excuse for supporting inethical business practices that hurt living people, imo
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horse mans posted:if you buy from amazon you support wage slavery (｡◕‿‿◕｡) better than supporting artificial wage inflation
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newegg has somewhat automated warehouses where a tub moves around rather than people running around i've worked in a warehouse through multiple texas summers, it wasn't enjoyable but the amazons ones sounded worse. we could open rollup doors and had fans, it was very little order picking and more testing stuff that was returned
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I ordered a bar code scanner from Amazon to test stuff with an app we're developing and got a Samsung Galaxy 5 replacement screen instead 
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horse mans posted:good excuse for supporting inethical business practices that hurt living people, imo If CostCo Does Not Stock It Then It Is Not Necessary
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horse mans posted:good excuse for supporting inethical business practices that hurt living people, imo
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horse mans posted:good excuse for supporting inethical business practices that hurt living people, imo i'm just saying amazon isn't special i'm not sure it's possible to buy consumer goods in the u.s. without supporting wage slavery in warehouses. maybe if you thrift everything?
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anthonypants posted:do you live in communist china or communist cuba cummunist Chiba would be a good weed brand
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm just saying amazon isn't special *dons LF hat* there is no ethical consumption under capitalism!!!!
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El_Elegante posted:cummunist Chiba would be a good weed brand The province east of Tokyo?
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annapacketstormaya posted:The province east of Tokyo? the slang term for weed, I don't know anything about weeaboo maps
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm just saying amazon isn't special amazon literally owns the kiva robot company so maybe that's changing e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMpsMt7ETi8
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I'm an ethical shopper. all of my food was farmed by college educated women with 2 years of maternity leave using a water reclaimation system and organic fertilizer (no mined potassium).
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Cocoa Crispies posted:amazon literally owns the kiva robot company so maybe that's changing they need to make one of these with a chair to transport humans around
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Cocoa Crispies posted:amazon literally owns the kiva robot company so maybe that's changing robots for warehouse poo poo have existed for like 20+ years. they keep using untrained wage laborers instead because they are cheaper you can't kick a robot off the worksite when it's broken, you have to fix it. injured contractor? lol gtfo
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The Management posted:I'm an ethical shopper. all of my food was farmed by college educated women with 2 years of maternity leave using a water reclaimation system and organic fertilizer (no mined potassium). phosphorus use in fertilizer isn't sustainable
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uncurable mlady posted:marketplace sellers are a loving blight i used to work for one. i was in charge of the amazon integration by which i mean i was literally the only tech person on-staff. it was a nightmare.
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