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Hodgepodge posted:I'm personally hoping that Kat will dig up a rule saying Annie can challenge her finals from last year, then tutor her like mad. It doesn't even have to be a rule. There has to be an appeal for a second chance, you have to be able to appeal to retake an exam, especially in high school and especially if you make a direct plea and especially if you can say truthfully that you've been dealing with some real heavy poo poo that year. Remember, this is only about repeating a grade, it's not something like dealing drugs or major assault that will [depending on county/state/nation] get students expelled with no chance of appeal. And I say "have to" not because it's a rule but because convincing people it's not a rule could take even more effort than just caving in (if you think long term you put up just enough passive resistance to discourage setting a precedent). The principal himself might grant that second chance simply to get them out of his office. And we know the principal can think in terms of strategy, to some extent, and if he loses Annie's connection to the school physically, or even having her be emotionally disconnected from her classmates by being put down a year, her connection to the forest will grow stronger and any sympathy she has to the Court will weaken. Oh, he might assist in scaring the crap out of her with the whole academic failure thing, but I wouldn't put it past him to rig the make-up exam himself to get her to pass. Rei_ posted:Yeah and it's a strange thing. Even Jones, who is as far as i can remember, entirely unemotive, has shown a greater degree of expression. It really makes him stand out among GC's rather emotive and expressive cast. On top of that, his face is consistently awfully detailed with not just scars but stress lines and whatnot. At times the skin around his eyes crinkles in a way that makes it almost look like he's wearing some sort of weird loving skin mask. He looks like he's been through some poo poo (like, is that all from Zimmy? Maybe?) but it also makes him look like an intrusive element in the world. He stands out among this sort of fantastical world as being a completely rigid being, he looks the most detailed but in many ways it makes him look the most artificial. I keep having theories about this guy and his...well...his dickishness. Theory 1 is he really is a completely un-emotive lawful-stupid guy, (like Javert from Les Mis...and I bet Russell Crowe can sing better than he can too, which is saying something). Theory 2 is that he's a genuine fucktard who literally blames his daughter for his wife's death and is punishing her. Theory 3 is he's testing her for something, he wants her to flare up in front of him (perhaps literally), because he wants her to help him in secret stuff. Theory 4 is he's a stern father who is trying to make up for over a decade of neglect but has no idea how to do that or how to interact with children, and he's defaulting to some mindset he learned sometime in his life, but that he genuinely might have a good reason for being away all this time, again it's some secret stuff. Really I think it's a combination of all of these things, but mostly 3. This guy is cunning as hell. Despite myself, I almost like this guy. He's a total complete jerk, I still want to punch him. My ideas about Surma and him are probably tainted by far too many sitcoms and romcoms, but I reckon Surma lived and interacted in a way that everyone responded to, not romantically or sexually, but people gave her attention and changed themselves around her. Then there's this one guy who just doesn't change at all. Could that have been alluring, a challenge? Does fire like challenge? Do girls like a challenge? I dunno, I still like him though.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:33
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He doesn't have any official authority to remove her from her position. But she's his daughter. He expects that he can just tell her to stop doing it and she'll back down and stop doing it; nobody can MAKE her do it if she chooses not to. And he might be right. We've seen before how much she respects him, God only knows why. I really want this to be the breaking point, but it probably won't be. She definitely isn't going to let him take Renard, though.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:41
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Itzena posted:
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Apr 3, 2015 13:59
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"And a girl of your age has no requirement for soft toys, so it has been removed to containment".
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JT Jag posted:Circa March 23rd. drat. Wbat do you want, a cookie? In all seriousness, this is where unstoppable force meets immovable object. Annie has LIVED in the forest for a time. She will not give that up. Also this is where Anthony's knowledge stops, I think.
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Apr 3, 2015 14:07
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The no more forest shenanigans condition makes it seem more likely that the
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Apr 3, 2015 14:08
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edit: ^^^Beat me as I was typing it up! So assuming this isn't all a dream sequence... the headmaster has to be behind this in some way right? He didn't want Annie, for whatever reason, to visit the forest anymore. After he denies her the medium position he says her forest visits are over and she can now focus 100% on her schoolwork, and also said she could return Reynard to them. This chapter confirms he and the rest of the staff knew about the cheating. The headmasters plan would've worked if Coyote hadn't given the position of forest medium to her with Jones, Andrew AND Parley all siding with her, going against what the headmaster says. Elgamore and Kat's parents are obviously not gonna side with the headmaster either. So bringing Annie's father in is probably a last ditch effort as he's the only authority figure that Annie will actually listen to (that isn't backing her 100% on these things). Also surely the next page or soon Anthony is gonna be him demanding she turn over Reynard to him and that'll finally being the last straw for her right? Right??
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Apr 3, 2015 14:14
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Zerilan posted:It's just going to end up being the PBF Fun Bot comic with Coyote as Fun Bot. Hey, so I just looked at the Fun Bot comic for nostalgia's sake and it turns out PBF is updating again. This is a Good Thing.
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Apr 3, 2015 14:16
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Macaluso posted:Also surely the next page or soon Anthony is gonna be him demanding she turn over Reynard to him and that'll finally being the last straw for her right? Right?? Pretty sure this is the next page. And of course this is the only time he's actually going to pretend to care about her: "oh, he tried to kill you that one time after being tortured for years, he's dangerous to you, blah blah". Even though Reynard, along with Ysengrim and Eglamore, have each been infinitely better male role models than he has ever been, and put together might actually make one hell of a father figure. Edit: yeah douche bag, the guy who tried to kill your daughter is still a better role model for her than you are. IronClaymore fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 14:20
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Everything Carver the Father has done/said has been reasonable/correct. Except the makeup I guess. That was kind of mean but I suppose if you find out your daughter has only done school work for two classes for years... Hypocrisy fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 14:38
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Brightman posted:The no more forest shenanigans condition makes it seem more likely that the Hell, I bet the Headmaster is involved because how else would Anthony get Kat's work? I can't imagine will give other children's class/homework to another classmate's parents.
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Apr 3, 2015 14:52
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Trying to remove Rey might well be the one thing that'd break her obedience, given how Rey has been a quasi-father-figure. And of course they can't remove Rey from her possession unwillingly without freeing him from his restrictions, at which point he'd probably try to gut Anthony or something.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:06
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Anthony has to know he is crossing Coyote by doing this. He cannot be that dense. He has to have some other motive.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:14
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Hypocrisy posted:Everything Carver the Father has done/said has been reasonable/correct. Except the bit where he disappeared for his daughter's formative years, then didn't so much as say hi when he returmed E: that's why he's interesting. He's not stupid and doesn't really seem to be wrong, but the part of him that would normally interact with other human beings is just flat out missing.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:18
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I think everyone understands that Anthony is either severely autistic or suffers from some kind of personality disorder. It doesn't stop/excuse him from being an abusive parent, though. Save us, Zimmy.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:25
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Anthony has to know he is crossing Coyote by doing this. He cannot be that dense. He has to have some other motive. Maybe he doesn't believe in Coyote. And Coyote's powers depend on peoples' faith so it could well be that that's a hard stop for him.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:38
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YF-23 posted:Maybe he doesn't believe in Coyote. And Coyote's powers depend on peoples' faith so it could well be that that's a hard stop for him. This isn't Planescape:Torment, where belief or disbelief could actively and directly influence the universe. Coyote was FORMED by the beliefs of dying people crossing into the Ether. At this point he very firmly exists, Anthony not believing in him matters jack poo poo.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:42
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Wulfolme posted:Anthony has no official authority to remove Annie from being the forest's medium. He's her father and she's his daughter; he has the authority to remove her from anything.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:43
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rotinaj posted:Monday's update gonna be text only. "And so, Annie was an exemplary student and worked herself tirelessly, until she turned seventeen and hung herself in her bedroom with a belt, out of loneliness. The end. No moral!"
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Apr 3, 2015 15:46
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Aumanor posted:This isn't Planescape:Torment, where belief or disbelief could actively and directly influence the universe. Coyote was FORMED by the beliefs of dying people crossing into the Ether. At this point he very firmly exists, Anthony not believing in him matters jack poo poo. Coyote's big reveal was literally a spooky-rear end "I do not exist!" so...
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Apr 3, 2015 15:49
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You know who else only has one functioning hand/arm? Big Bird. Because he's a puppet operated by someone who has to use one arm to move the mouth and the other to move the remaining arm. This is actually an Anthony-puppet. Who can you think of in the Court that has two arms, can talk and is otherwise completely worthless?
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Apr 3, 2015 15:52
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Rei_ posted:And again, what the gently caress did Surma see in him? Like honestly that's the comics biggest mystery at this point It's been suggested in this thread before, but fire needs to spread ("when you have a child"), and I'm guessing that Anthony was literally the only guy left standing when the music stopped (neither he nor Surma paired up in school from what we've seen) and so Surma was compelled.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:54
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YF-23 posted:Coyote's big reveal was literally a spooky-rear end "I do not exist!" so... Still, the way it works is pretty clearly explained in that vey chapter:   
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Apr 3, 2015 15:55
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I now expect Annie will deal with these developments in the mature, time-tested, true teen manner: she's going to run away from home
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Apr 3, 2015 16:09
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Bilirubin posted:I now expect Annie will deal with these developments in the mature, time-tested, true teen manner: she's going to run away from home If she runs to the forest, it'll be very interesting to see how the Court reacts.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:11
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YF-23 posted:Coyote's big reveal was literally a spooky-rear end "I do not exist!" so... I love the philosophical part of all that. But it really boils down to "tree falling in the forest" type stuff. "What is real...?" etc etc. From that viewpoint, Coyote is more real than most humans, he just lacks atoms. Going a bit meta, I could argue that the fictional character of Coyote is more real than the actual me. And you can say his personality is simply a congealed mass of what humans think his consciousness to be, but then you get into psychology, and who's personality isn't influenced by what others think them to be? Maybe that's the thing? Maybe Carver is the philosophical opposite because he's never influenced by other peoples' views on or beliefs in him. As was pointed out, even Jones adapts to other people. Ugh, an anti-Coyote.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:16
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The Red Queen posted:You know who else only has one functioning hand/arm? Big Bird. Because he's a puppet operated by someone who has to use one arm to move the mouth and the other to move the remaining arm. Clearly this post is the only truth.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:47
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IronClaymore posted:Edit: yeah douche bag, the guy who tried to kill your daughter is still a better role model for her than you are. both of them are 
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Apr 3, 2015 16:49
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Aumanor posted:Still, the way it works is pretty clearly explained in that vey chapter: Please re-host images if you're going to post them, hotlinking eats up the comic's bandwidth without giving Tom any ad revenue and such.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:08
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I'm hoping for Hetty to show up and says 'SIIIIIIIIIGH' at this point. Come on, we all know the story isn't going to suddenly end just because dumb dad came back into it and said so. Someone set him on fire, or ether punch him, or send a robot army after him, or bite his knees off, or something.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:18
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I'm quite enjoying it  It's adding a little bit of suspense to my week.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:23
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Luminous Obscurity posted:I think everyone understands that Anthony is either severely autistic or suffers from some kind of personality disorder. It doesn't stop/excuse him from being an abusive parent, though. It doesn't take either of those things to act like this guy is. The court doesn't give a poo poo about coyote or the forest. They've said that a lot. Like look at the headmaster when coyote comes to visit way back when: he's like "yaaaawn". The court sees the forest as a bunch of silly animals. When's the last time coyote did anything. The Annan waters and the split. But then the court did a thing and now coyote doesn't do jack poo poo to them. The only people who are like whoah coyote are the ones who interact with the forest: eglamore, the donlans, etc SHISHKABOB fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Apr 3, 2015 17:25
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The twist will be that he's not even a new teacher, he just didn't bother telling her he regularly teaches the higher years' science class.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:33
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Tom is just piling it on, and I'm sure he's enjoying it, but it's moved past the point of annoyance for me. I'm just gonna stop reading for a few months until this whole thing gets sorted out. This is excellent narrative, but the update schedule combined with the dickery just makes this comic not fun to read right now.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:47
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I'm sorry, but Anthony is a fantastically well done character. Also that image on the Paz book is a horreo. They are used in Spain to store grain.
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Apr 3, 2015 18:09
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UndyingShadow posted:Tom is just piling it on, and I'm sure he's enjoying it, but it's moved past the point of annoyance for me. I'm just gonna stop reading for a few months until this whole thing gets sorted out. This is going to sound a little weird, but... it's enjoyable to me because it's not enjoyable. It's the outcome of Annie continually flaunting the court's authority: remember the panel where she sarcastically suggested that they contact her parents if they weren't accepting of her actions? We all knew the fall would be painful, and it hurts to see Annie getting devastated repeatedly, but we all knew something like this was coming, and that it was going to be pretty painful!
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Apr 3, 2015 18:16
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SHISHKABOB posted:It doesn't take either of those things to act like this guy is. It's been shown a lot during the flashbacks too, though.
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Apr 3, 2015 18:19
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I just wonder how long it's going to continue. What if Anthony doesn't care about what Donald/Anja/Jimmy Jims have to say, and has some kind of magical doohickey to imprison Reynard whether Antimony likes it or not, and Annie isn't emotionally ready to defy him? That could get really unpleasant. Although I'm pretty sure that Antimony will cut loose when Anthony tries to take Reynard away, if she doesn't do it now. She's way more emotionally attached to him than she is to her father at this point. (I'm also pretty sure Anthony is going to try and go for that, because that's just the line he's been taking.)
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Apr 3, 2015 18:24
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MikeJF posted:It's been shown a lot during the flashbacks too, though. I'm not convinced.
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