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RC and Moon Pie posted:George Orwell's Down and Out in Paris and London. I've been poor in both cities and no one's loving congratulating me.
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Weird he picked that and not the book Orwell went to war to write.
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Mar 21, 2015 15:38
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why are there two harry potter megathreads
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Mar 23, 2015 21:33
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ulvir posted:why are there two harry potter megathreads I blame the free market also, Obama
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Mar 23, 2015 21:36
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ulvir posted:why are there two harry potter megathreads One is for Harry Potter fanfiction, so it's fine.
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Mar 23, 2015 21:45
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CestMoi posted:One is for Harry Potter fanfiction, so it's fine. lol. Never forget, fifty shades of grey started out as Twilight fanfic.
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Paper With Lines posted:lol. so there;ll be some saucy harry potter books for adults in the stores the enxt few years
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ulvir posted:so there;ll be some saucy harry potter books for adults in the stores the enxt few years There already are some (kinda - YA): http://www.amazon.com/City-Bones-Mortal-Instruments-Book/dp/1416955070 Clary = Ginny Jace = Draco
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What is it about urban fantasy that just attracts so many mediocre writers?
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Borneo Jimmy posted:What is it about urban fantasy that just attracts so many mediocre writers? It's one of the hot genres right now, so publishers are putting out anything and everything they can to capitalize on that. Though City of Bones is, I believe, marketed as young adult rather than urban fantasy, which really doesn't change what I just said since it still applies 100%.
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Mar 30, 2015 03:54
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(buy city of bones!)
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Paper With Lines posted:lol. Well, Twilight started as a Pride and Prejudice fanfic. It's fanfic all the way down.
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I love roman mythology. it's like the world's first fanfic/blatant ripoff. "wow, these greeks has some cool stuff, we'll take it!"
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Mar 31, 2015 13:30
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Mythology is pretty much all fanfic. "And then Zeus turned into a swan and then gently made love to her"
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ulvir posted:I love roman mythology. it's like the world's first fanfic/blatant ripoff. "wow, these greeks has some cool stuff, we'll take it!" Alhazred posted:Mythology is pretty much all fanfic. These are stupid opinions.
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Mar 31, 2015 13:47
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Mar 31, 2015 15:20
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ITs's just fanfiction!!!!!! It's just fanfiction!!!!!!!!
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Mar 31, 2015 17:32
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Mythology is reality's Expanded Universe?
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Mar 31, 2015 21:51
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intentionally stupid wording aside, the greek mythology did influence the roman pretty heavily
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blue squares posted:Non-fiction isn't really fair. I don't know of any cases, but I was imagining something like a writer who, say, is intentionally drowned and revived to be able to write about it. So not just past experiences but something done specifically as part of the creative process of writing a specific novel. The Book of Vice: Very Naughty Things (and How to Do Them) by Peter Segal The author tries to experience various forms of vice and then write about. It's not too extreme and is a little more on the comedic side, but he does visit swingers clubs, etc. This has nothing to do with Vice magazine and it written by the guy who hosts Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me
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Ras Het posted:These are stupid opinions. The Roman one isn't, IMO. Rome blew, gently caress Rome. Rome's largest cultural export was violence and every work of art they produced was at best an adequate imitation of the Greeks whom they worshipped. Come At Me. e:Pluto just isn't as cool of a name as Hades Rome you're just going to need to accept this I'm sorry
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Yeah, the Aeneid and the Metamorphoses, widely regarded as the best works of classical literature are actually bad, on account of their using themes and stories many people of the time would be familiar with.
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Similarly Ulysses is a big pile of turd, for drawing esoteric parallels between itself and a famous work (ie completely copying it and adding nothing of value to Homer's work).
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Apr 1, 2015 15:22
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Er. The Life of Brian, anyone?
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Apr 1, 2015 15:34
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That's parody not fan-fiction.
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I meant, "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
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CestMoi posted:Yeah, the Aeneid and the Metamorphoses, widely regarded as the best works of classical literature are actually bad, on account of their using themes and stories many people of the time would be familiar with. homer's better Yo whatever happened to the Arthurian lit thread? I miss that thread. chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Apr 1, 2015 |
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End Of Worlds posted:The Roman one isn't, IMO. Rome blew, gently caress Rome. Rome's largest cultural export was violence and every work of art they produced was at best an adequate imitation of the Greeks whom they worshipped. Come At Me. It was part of Roman literary culture to form a Graceo-Roman mythological narrative, and it's reasonable to say that Roman poets had a strong preference for Greek mythologies, but if you look at gods like Mars, Vesta, Quirinus or Janus, at the omnipresence of minor guardian spirits, or at the importance in Roman legend of the state, the people and their essential moral qualities, you've got a pretty complex picture. A pertinent example: Pluto (Pluton, whatever) is a Homeric euphemism for Hades, later used by Roman authors for their native god/gods, the possibly Etruscan-derived Orcus and the possibly Greek-derived Dis.
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ulvir posted:intentionally stupid wording aside, the greek mythology did influence the roman pretty heavily They existed in an area that had been colonised by greeks and heavily influenced by Greeks. Its not surprising. Religions have always incorporated, borrowed and absorbed each other depending on what was dominate at the time.
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Please never use the words fan fiction in regards to religious beliefs ever again or I am going to spasticly flail my little retard arms uselessly until I fall over and piss myself and die. My blood will be on your hands
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Stravinsky posted:Please never use the words fan fiction in regards to religious beliefs ever again or I am going to spasticly flail my little retard arms uselessly until I fall over and piss myself and die. My blood will be on your hands what about this one quote:No, Moslems don’t believe that Jesus was the Messiah.
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Stravinsky posted:Please never use the words fan fiction in regards to religious beliefs ever again or I am going to spasticly flail my little retard arms uselessly until I fall over and piss myself and die. My blood will be on your hands http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3643994&pagenumber=43&perpage=40#post440377674
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Snapchat A Titty posted:what about this one  Zaito posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3643994&pagenumber=43&perpage=40#post440377674 Think really hard about what the difference is between the post I quoted and the rest of this forum's idiotic stance that religion/mythology is itself fanfiction, then try to come back and own me bitch.
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Stravinsky posted:Think really hard about what the difference is between the post I quoted and the rest of this forum's idiotic stance that religion/mythology is itself fanfiction, then try to come back and own me bitch. They7're the same.
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We live our lives as fanfiction of our favourite fictional characters - Aldous Huxley in Eyeless in Gaza. I was going to get a more accurate quotation but apparently it's still in copyright?
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There is Roman mythology fanfiction, like Lucian of Samosata's Dialogues of the Gods or Dialogues of the Dead. They are very awesome and cool.
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Stravinsky posted:Think really hard about what the difference is between the post I quoted and the rest of this forum's idiotic stance that religion/mythology is itself fanfiction, then try to come back and own me bitch. cool that you thought I wasn't joking when I said the fanfic stuff, even when I tried to make it explicit
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So is there no book of the month for April?
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Chamberk posted:So is there no book of the month for April? No, I've just been traveling (and slack) so haven't gotten thread up. It'll go up today. Book is Three Body Problem, Chinese sf.
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I'm actually gonna go ahead and make the claim that virtually all mythology and absolutely all of the cycles (matter of Britain, Fenian cycle) can be called fanfiction without your tongue planted TOO firmly against your cheek. If we define fanfiction as the appropriation of existing characters and settings into new or modified plotlines, then we're required to accept something like Sir Gawain and the Green Knight or The Song of Roland as fanfiction. The one significant difference seems to me to be that fanfic is generally based on works with one clearly defined author and 'canon,' which is obviously not the case with something like the Arthurian cycle. Still, you have enduring works of literature that are clearly derivative of others, to the extent of being consciously based upon them. For example, the Middle English Adventures of Arthur at the Tarn Wadling draws deeply from the Alliterative Morte Arthur, explicitly referencing events that take place in the latter. What's that but fanfiction? You can extend this to mythology. In Western Europe you've got Scandinavian skalds and Celtic bards consciously drawing on heroic and theological stories or extant folklore to construct new heroic and theological stories. I'd argue that we don't call any of this fanfiction because fanfiction has an obvious (and well-deserved!) bad reputation, because it's derivative and pretty much universally terrible. Attaching a stigma to derivation, though, is very much a later development. It wasn't around in most of the Medieval period (I'm not knowledgeable enough to make any claims about the Classical period besides posting inflammatory comments). Also, the intervening thousand years has served to weed out most of the terrible poo poo, so we're only left with the really good 13th-century fanfiction (although, inexplicably, Gottfried von Strassburg has also survived). anyway the aeneid blows chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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