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I think this isn't really a short arc, that was just a small segment that finished in the overall larger series of these internship things.
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Nahxela posted:I think this isn't really a short arc, that was just a small segment that finished in the overall larger series of these internship things. Merely an appetizer as this may be the main course
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SyntheticPolygon posted:It's a bit weird that Souma was comparing himself trying to catch up to his Dad with Arato being fine at staying behind Erina, because I think Souma at least said he wanted to beat his Dad. The point of that scene was to tie back to the "give your dishes your own flavor" thing that decided the tournament. So far everything Soma does is basically an inferior version of what his father would have done because, well, Soma learned how to cook from working with his dad. He wasn't aiming to be second to his dad forever like Arato was with Erina, but by cooking like him he was unknowingly dooming himself to that; remember all those matches he's had with his dad? Soma will probably never be able to outwit his dad if he cooks the same way, so he has to find his own path. Which is easier to do in Tootsuki, because other people are with him, like Dojima said waaaaaaay back at the end of the training camp. Honestly, the writing in this manga is pretty solid.
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Okay I'm almost convinced that the writing is "solid" but you have to wrap all of that up around the underlying premise that your food sucks unless you cook it for someone you love.
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Eej posted:Okay I'm almost convinced that the writing is "solid" but you have to wrap all of that up around the underlying premise that your food sucks unless you cook it for someone you love. Not suck, just not as good as it could be. Megumi lost to Kurokiba after all and Kurokiba doesn't cook for any reason but to win. And Takumi lost to that copy guy as well, and he was cooking for his brother at the time. Cooking for someone you care about is just another one of the thematic shonen ideals this manga uses and adapts for its premise. It's also got standing up from your losses and improving on them, having the ambition and desire to win, following your own path and not anyone else's, and learning and growing with your friends. It's basically shonen 101, if you fight for someone you care about you are stronger than if you're just fighting for yourself. If this was just a cooking manga it'd be dumb as hell but it's also a shonen, where one of the best cooks hangs around naked most of the time, a top chef's personality changes completely once he puts on a bandana and where you flunk out of cooking school if you can't singlehandedly improve an established restaurant. It being ridiculous comes with the territory.
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Eej posted:Okay I'm almost convinced that the writing is "solid" but you have to wrap all of that up around the underlying premise that your food sucks unless you cook it for someone you love. He's a shonen protaganist. His theme is "Because I have friends." Some assholes speed-scanned 110 in semi-passable english: http://mangadoom.co/Shokugeki-no-Soma/110/
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Angry Grimace posted:He's a shonen protaganist. His theme is "Because I have friends." Looks like Shinomoya is going to try and master a french-japanese fusion style (using burdock, a widely popular vegetable in Asia, not often used in Europe), which will make for some interesting stories. I've been watching Mind of a Chef and David Chang does some amazing stuff when trying to make new styles of ramen, and one of my favorites is where he takes the traditional style of making ramen broth (4-10 hours) and manages to make the same quality (or better) broth in 10 minutes by using freeze dried mushrooms, chicken, pork, and other seasonings. One of the amusing things he mentions is how in Japan ramen is constantly being experimented with and modified and new styles emerge, but if people develop a new style/technique outside of Japan no one really regards it as "authentic". Looks like Shinomoya is going back to his roots to create something new and unique that will capture the taste buds of Japan. pentyne fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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pentyne posted:Looks like Shinomoya is going to try and master a french-japanese fusion style (using burdock, a widely popular vegetable in Asia, not often used in Europe), which will make for some interesting stories. I've been watching Mind of a Chef and David Chang does some amazing stuff when trying to make new styles of ramen, and one of my favorites is where he takes the traditional style of making ramen broth (4-10 hours) and manages to make the same quality (or better) broth in 10 minutes by using freeze dried mushrooms, chicken, pork, and other seasonings. Ooh, and it's on Amazon. I'll watch that, thanks for mentioning it! Which episode is this, S1E1, or S1E11? SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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I like Shinomiya. Now that he's chilled out he's a pretty cool dude.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Ooh, and it's on Amazon. I'll watch that, thanks for mentioning it! Which episode is this, S1E1, or S1E11? Almost all of the episodes have a great Japanese segment, I'll list my favorite. Episode 1 Ramen: Pretty much all about ramen, noodles, instant noodles, ways to cook ramen broth, etc. Episode 2 Pig: Details how Chang created a version of katsu bushi (dried, preserved fish that's rock hard and shaved into slices and served everywhere in Japan) using pork instead and how once the technique is perfect any animal protein can be made the same way and open up tons of new ways to prepare Japanese cuisines that formally used the fish k-b. Episode 7: Simple: Covers a lot of the "simple" Japanese food traditions like yakitori that are refined to perfection and a ramen restaurant where there's no talking aloud Episode 10 Japan: Covers Japanese bar culture, food markets, and an extremely formal meal served at a Japanese temple that's looks like actual art Episode 11 New York: Features a NY guy living in Japan running a ramen restaurant who's developed his own unique take on tonkatsu ramen that's pretty popular Episode 12 Fresh: Covers how precise the fishmongers are when they kill fish, and how even fish can be aged like steak for better flavor, and then covers the freeze dried food experiment where Chang makes a ramen broth in 10 minutes he says is as good or better then the broth Momofuku (his flagship restaurant) makes over the course of 12 hours. Episode 13 Soy: Pretty obvious, you get to see fresh tofu being made using the same techniques they've done for centuries and how miso is made Mikl posted:I like Shinomiya. Now that he's chilled out he's a pretty cool dude. He seems like the kind of chef who's hovered at that 2 Michelin star level for years and has sat comfortable while being slightly afraid to push for a 3rd star by challenging himself until he finally faces a new experience and is forced to admit he's stagnant. One of the things Gordon Ramsay talks about the most when it comes to Michelin Stars is how you have to keep pushing the boundaries of quality and experience because the people are paying Michelin level prices and you absolutely cannot stagnant or rest on your laurels. pentyne fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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This made me read the Wikipedia artcle on Michelin stars, and apparently some Japanese restaurants got stars and didn't expect to...and the owners were actually reluctant to take them because it causes traffic to go up so much it hurts their quality. The latter is an interesting premise and very Souma/his dad-like.
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pentyne posted:Looks like Shinomoya is going to try and master a french-japanese fusion style (using burdock, a widely popular vegetable in Asia, not often used in Europe), which will make for some interesting stories. I've been watching Mind of a Chef and David Chang does some amazing stuff when trying to make new styles of ramen, and one of my favorites is where he takes the traditional style of making ramen broth (4-10 hours) and manages to make the same quality (or better) broth in 10 minutes by using freeze dried mushrooms, chicken, pork, and other seasonings. The funny thing is, Shinomiya is a Japanese person, but most people I know think he's "arrogant French guy." Also his French assistant girl looks much more obviously asian than anyone else. Fabricated posted:This made me read the Wikipedia artcle on Michelin stars, and apparently some Japanese restaurants got stars and didn't expect to...and the owners were actually reluctant to take them because it causes traffic to go up so much it hurts their quality. Sukiyabashi Jiro is the most well known of these - a Michelin Three Star sushi restaurant in a train station. It got really popular due to the movie Jiro Dreams of Sushi. I'm just glad we're not going to rehash Shinomiya being a dick and threatening to expel Soma over and over. I wonder if they're gonna use this arc to finish off the story with the other side-story girl who obviously had the hots for Shinomiya.
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Angry Grimace posted:The funny thing is, Shinomiya is a Japanese person, but most people I know think he's "arrogant French guy." Also his French assistant girl looks much more obviously asian than anyone else. Yeah, Jiro Dreams of Sushi was the first thing that popped into mind as well. They went reservation-only, too.
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Anime Japan 2015 trailer for the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUAnRpHnndw I'm not feeling the song, but the foodgasm/shounen posing game is on point.
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New chapter has been up for a while. Looks like Souma finally realizes the difference between working in a restaurant kitchen vs. running a local shop.
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Do we have a list of all the meals cooked in this series? Some of them look amazing, even in monochrome and sound even better, I'd like to try making some of the simpler ones.
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sharktamer posted:Do we have a list of all the meals cooked in this series? Some of them look amazing, even in monochrome and sound even better, I'd like to try making some of the simpler ones. Speaking through personal experience, the onion and red wine sauce Souma used for his Don Shokugeki versus Nikumi is loving delicious.
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I like where they're going with the Michelin star hunt since that's completely serious over-the-top business even in real life. A meal at a three-star restaurant is about 300 bucks a plate - the only places that get these stars are in major cities where Michelin does city guides, so there's a huge amount of competition.
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I believe in the volume extras, there are written recipes (some adjusted for obvious reasons like certain ingredients not being readily available), but only Batoto has those pages uploaded from what I remember. There's already a dedicated Shokugeki no Soma wikia that has all the dishes that were cooked so far written down.
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Angry Grimace posted:I like where they're going with the Michelin star hunt since that's completely serious over-the-top business even in real life. A meal at a three-star restaurant is about 300 bucks a plate - the only places that get these stars are in major cities where Michelin does city guides, so there's a huge amount of competition. In the last 2 decades Japan has been getting an extraordinary number of stars relative to the rest of the world, and many people have criticized the Michelin Guide for being more lenient with Japanese restaurants but every food show I've ever seen that covers Japan portrays the bulk of Japan's food culture as far more serious then most other countries, and chefs like Jiro are closer to the norm rather then the exception. Getting a 3 star Japanese restaurant is still difficult and it really comes down to absolute unfettered perfection and never letting the slightest detail slide. In Jiro's restaurant one of the training chefs had to make the tamago, the egg sushi topping, hundreds of times before Jiro finally told him it was acceptable. One of the reviews I remember most about Dreams of Sushi was how Jiro continues to try and improve his food any way he can, from washing the rice a different way, to hand massaging squid for 45 minutes instead of 30 because he found the extra time really brings out the perfect texture and flavor. Fun fact, the entire situation looks depressing as hell for the first son, who's still working under Jiro in his mid-50s because he can only take over when Jiro retires/dies, and the second son left and started his own restaurant and quickly gained 2 Michelin stars but is still seen as a "discount Jiro's"
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^^^^^^^ In case you hadn't noticed, that's two or three times that Jiro Loves Sushi has come up in about as many pages. If you haven't watched that yet.... why the deuce not?! It's free on Amazon if you've got Prime!
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vibratingsheep posted:Anime Japan 2015 trailer for the show: I was watching this, going 'yeahhh look at that food LOOK AT THAT FOOD BROTH BROTH BROTH BROTH BROTH' I rewatched it, noticed Nikumi's boobswing when she sliced through the meat, and realized that this is probably going to be even more indefensible than the manga already is. 
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Patware posted:I was watching this, going 'yeahhh look at that food LOOK AT THAT FOOD BROTH BROTH BROTH BROTH BROTH' I dunno, it's not even that big of a step from Koufuku Graffiti. Then again, my sense of shame may just be incredibly decayed.
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There's going to be one of those gifs like with the Maoyuu Maou Yuusha anime where the words "plot" and "economics" were superimposed over the Maou's massive swinging rack within the first few episodes. I'm just wondering if the food reactions are going to be full on orgasmic sounding or just slightly erotic.
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pentyne posted:There's going to be one of those gifs like with the Maoyuu Maou Yuusha anime where the words "plot" and "economics" were superimposed over the Maou's massive swinging rack within the first few episodes. It would be a disservice to the manga if it wasn't the former.
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Re: the current arc, the way I can see Souma "making a lasting impact" is that he wins the respect of the sous-chef, who in turn learns not to judge people for things other than their skills in the kitchen.
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Viz's chapter is up. There are some significant translation differences between it and the speedscan. I'll be interested in seeing Casanova's translation.
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Crunchyroll picked up the license to stream the anime. The first episode should be up today. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/03/crunchyroll-to-stream-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-anime
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I loved the after credits sequence. Otherwise the first episode is OK, I suppose.
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tonberrytoby posted:I loved the after credits sequence. Otherwise the first episode is OK, I suppose. The food reactions are about as insanely over the top as you'd expect.
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MajorMarcus posted:Crunchyroll picked up the license to stream the anime. The first episode should be up today. Solid first episode; whoever was in charge of music production did a drat good job with matching the over-the-top visuals and setting.
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Mo_Steel posted:Solid first episode; whoever was in charge of music production did a drat good job with matching the over-the-top visuals and setting. The OP and ED sound generic as gently caress though
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MajorMarcus posted:Viz's chapter is up. There are some significant translation differences between it and the speedscan. I'll be interested in seeing Casanova's translation. Casanova's is up and I'm curious what the differences are between that and the Viz one. I thought Souma would have learned more cooking techniques from his father since much was made of his using poêle in one of the earliest chapters. Also, I guess that his visible mark on Shino's is to have his new dish chosen for the menu from one of his earlier failures.
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Furious Lobster posted:Casanova's is up and I'm curious what the differences are between that and the Viz one. I thought Souma would have learned more cooking techniques from his father since much was made of his using poêle in one of the earliest chapters. Also, I guess that his visible mark on Shino's is to have his new dish chosen for the menu from one of his earlier failures. The translation is a little different and Casanova tends to go a bit heavy on the filtering. Someone on 4chan posts Viz's when they go up, so you can find it if you search the offsite 4chan archive
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