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STAC Goat posted:I really, really don't like Tyler and Carolyn siding with Blue. I just think that's stupid. There's no way I would have expected Blue to turn on each other before they broke up that pair. Considering they spent the whole episode talking about how they needed to stay distant and not tip everyone off to them being close and at the end of the episode they're both turning on a White Collar to be a minority pair in a majority alliance? That just strikes me as moronic. White Collar could have played with No Collar and decimated Blue and then flipped and taken out No. Maybe that wouldn't have worked perfectly but Carolyn and Tyler are now playing for the hope that Blue splinters before they decide to eliminate all threats. Which considering the Joakin/Rodney and Sierra/Lindsey votes seems to be their MO. I don't think it was a bad move. Carolyn and Kelly seemed friendly, and they could have easily made a Carolyn/Tyler/Kelly/Mike Final Four pact, like the Malcom/Denise/Lisa/Skupin one. They could have done it with the No Collars as well, but the problem is that the No Collars are a strong threesome, who would outnumber them once they got to five. Even if they persuaded Jenn and Hali to break off from Joe, it is very risky bringing someone like Joe even into top 5 or 6. Look at what happened in Nicaragua where they left Fabio as the last opposing tribe member remaining, then he proceeded to win three Immunities in a row then the title. Rodney, Sierra and Will are barely threats on their own. Plus Carolyn can't stand Shirin. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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GaussianCopula posted:Someone please explain to me why Jenn's idol play was that great. She got a feeling that she might be going home today and played the idol at the first tribal where there was a realistic chance she might go home. That's not a great play but not being James from China level retarded. No collar was lucky that the person who had the idol was also the person targeted.
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When's the last time an ENTIRE alliance's votes are all negated? It rarely happens.
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Jenn's idol play just made amazing television, is the thing, even if many perceptive people would have made the same call. Yeah, a truly amazing play would have been like, if say Spencer in Cagayan had successfully counter-predicted Tony and played his idol on Jeremiah. But I don't think anything like that is ever likely to happen. Still, invalidating seven votes is really cool. Also, I know a lot of you seem to hate edgic, but Jenn has a huge edit, and the No-Collars in general have been portrayed most favorably, aside from Mike. People can mock me later if I'm wrong, but the winner is Jenn or Mike. Joe is screwed, Sierra's the most invisible of the remaining players, Dan's awful, Rodney's implied to be someone that makes big moves, but also a misogynist douche, Tyler is toneless and doesn't really have a story, Shirin has a redemption edit but she's still herself so can't win unless she gets a REALLY beneficial situation (say, if Rodney and Dan decide they want to ally with her), Will is...I don't know, I guess not getting enough really, and then Carolyn's a sticky wicket for sure, but she never seems like she's having any fun. Ever. and Hali's just Jenn's goofy sidekick.
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Spatula City posted:Jenn's idol play just made amazing television, is the thing, even if many perceptive people would have made the same call. I wouldn't rule Hali out, it seems like every episode there's a confessional or two that exists solely to endear us to her.
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Spatula City posted:
Hali is everything a straight, red-blooded, Merican, straight man could want: a female Chris Pine, minus any threatening demonstrations of competence. Plus she seems to get more screen-time than she really should considering she doesn't really make any major plays or demonstrate any special insight into what's going on. I wanted Carolyn to stick with the No Collars so they could form The Fellowship of All The Idols and vote out the surfeit of douchebags on the blue collar tribe. One thing I noticed is that Will seems to more well-liked and personable than I might have thought. I've always liked him but because he sucks so hard at challenges I assumed the other players didn't respect him much. But when he makes a joke everyone seems to laugh genuinely. It helps that he is actually funny too. But I can't really see him winning even if he makes it to final tribal unless he's there with two goats who are even goatier than they are now. And Dan even specifically grew a goat beard already. I feel bad for Joe. He's hardly the only athletic player out there yet he seems to be singled out as an unstoppable challenge threat who will make an immunity run to final three if he's not stopped at the first opportunity.
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Joe has been a monster in challenges though. He's clearly been the best player in them, so that's why he's been singled out.
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Apr 4, 2015 07:57
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Joe's gonna go full Colby and win everything and I will laugh and laugh
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Jen's idol play was great for two reasons. One, that has to be the most # of votes negated with a single idol, and two her mad scientist cackling as the votes were read was hilarious. Jen rules.
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SweetJahasus posted:Jen's idol play was great for two reasons. One, that has to be the most # of votes negated with a single idol, and two her mad scientist cackling as the votes were read was hilarious. Nope, it merely ties Russel Hantz record from Samoa.
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GaussianCopula posted:Nope, it merely ties Russel Hantz record from Samoa. Well drat. But Russell sucks and Jen rules.   
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My goodness, the person Redmond just added to the list as a fan vote option for S31: GREG BUIS! 
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They should do a season with just the first boot offs. Call it losers vs. losers vs. old people.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:They should do a season with just the first boot offs. They can bring back Francesca and Fairplay, so I'm all for it.
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Since Francesca got voted out first twice, does that mean that she would get two chances, and be automatically re-entered into the game when she inevitably got voted out first for a third time?
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ColonelCurmudgeon posted:Since Francesca got voted out first twice, does that mean that she would get two chances, and be automatically re-entered into the game when she inevitably got voted out first for a third time? No, they simply would just cast 19 people and before they get the maps to their new camps Jeff just says, "Sorry Fran, we don't have a buff for you, you are the first loser on Survivor: Losers"
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ColonelCurmudgeon posted:Since Francesca got voted out first twice, does that mean that she would get two chances, and be automatically re-entered into the game when she inevitably got voted out first for a third time? I think it would only be fair to just give her a Tyler Perry Idol at the beginning.
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They could hide the idols in the rice bags. Like 10 of them.
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Survivor: One Idol Per Person. You show up on day one, and everyone gets an idol.
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Piell posted:Survivor: One Idol Per Person. You show up on day one, and everyone gets an idol. This would actually be fascinating. You'd have to balance guaranteed safety on early votes vs taking it late game. Plus you'd have the potential for more double idol plays. People who manage to keep them all the way to the merge are targets. This would work best with no hidden idols.
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My preferred outcome was still Jenn using the idol on Hali after getting their information on the target from Will, but this was the second best result.
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MisterZimbu posted:My preferred outcome was still Jenn using the idol on Hali after getting their information on the target from Will, but this was the second best result. What else would have been fun is if Carolyn played her idol for Kelly after Jenn plays her idol, and Hali goes home from just one stray vote
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bbf2 posted:What else would have been fun is if Carolyn played her idol for Kelly after Jenn plays her idol, and Hali goes home from just one stray vote Is there a procedure if all votes are negated? Do they revote for new people? Immediate purple rock? Probst's head explodes?
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ApplesandOranges posted:Is there a procedure if all votes are negated? Do they revote for new people? Immediate purple rock? Probst's head explodes? The logical outcome would be revote with all people who have votes (no one) being not allowed to vote, as this is what happens in case of a deadlock anyway. Purple rocks are only used in case the same people are deadlocked after a revote, which would be the 3rd vote in this case. My question would be what happens if they have a deadlock at the final tribal council, with F3 usually having 8 jury members who could potentially vote 0-4-4. Does the 3rd place person cast the deciding vote in that case? GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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Is Flipped Off worth watching at all? Has anybody watched it? I'm wondering if there is enough Russell to make it worthwhile.
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I just finally caught up with the season. It is so good! Jenn is a hero and Carolyn and Sierra rule and everybody but Hali is an actual presence it's fantastic  And I get that Blue + White + Will didn't have enough trust to effectively work together but they had enough votes to split between Jenn and Hali~
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Pinterest Mom posted:I just finally caught up with the season. It is so good! Jenn is a hero and Carolyn and Sierra rule and everybody but Hali is an actual presence it's fantastic If they're not trusting Will then a vote split strategy is too risky, cause then Will just needs to vote with the No Collars for them to win the vote with 5.
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Pinterest Mom posted:I just finally caught up with the season. It is so good! Jenn is a hero and Carolyn and Sierra rule and everybody but Hali is an actual presence it's fantastic You don't split the vote when you have at least three, if not five people that might not be 100% loyal (Rodney, Sierra, Will, Taylor, Carolyn). I would blame Taylor and Carolyn most for the failed vote (which does not really hurt them, so they could care less), because they KNOW that Shirin doesn't have an idol (Carolyn found the WC idol) and should have nudged the majority to vote her out. But it might be for the best for the remaining majority alliance, as they now are on an more equal footing, compared to before where the core blue collar had a pretty tight grip on the game.
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Jenn  Jeff Probst posted:Jenn is a tricky one for me. We had a love-hate relationship. Best described as—I loved her, she hated me! Also this gif 
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So... Jeff is bitter because she shot him down?
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GaussianCopula posted:The logical outcome would be revote with all people who have votes (no one) being not allowed to vote, as this is what happens in case of a deadlock anyway. Purple rocks are only used in case the same people are deadlocked after a revote, which would be the 3rd vote in this case. I believe in the first case it would go to fresh vote with the tie rules. The people who played idols would not vote nor could they be voted for but there would be two rounds of voting in case there was another tie. As for the final tribal council I think I heard that in that case the third place person votes for the winner if possible and in the case of a 3-3-3 then I guess the jury revotes. It's also possible that they would declare a tie and split the money since any vote would be affected by the edit and could be seen as unfair.
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The best way to resolve the 4-4-0 tie is to have each finalist cast a vote at final tribal council, to be revealed only if they are third place. As for 3-3-3, no idea.
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blue squares posted:The best way to resolve the 4-4-0 tie is to have each finalist cast a vote at final tribal council, to be revealed only if they are third place. As for 3-3-3, no idea. Production knows the votes anyway, so they can just have the right person cast their vote if it's necessary. A 3-3-3 tie is impossible, because we usually have a 8person jury if there is a f3
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blue squares posted:The best way to resolve the 4-4-0 tie is to have each finalist cast a vote at final tribal council, to be revealed only if they are third place. As for 3-3-3, no idea. That's probably what they do. In the case of a 3-3-3 if it's still a tie with finalist votes then then it's probably a three way tie to win and the money is split.
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So in case anyone hasn't been paying attention to the updated list for next season: Greg loving Buis!
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Praying for the following to make it. Shane Powers (my all time favorite along with Lex) Jeff Varner Stephen Fishbach Kass McQuillen Spencer Bledsoe
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Elphiem posted:Can individual immunity winners still give their necklace to another player? I have been assuming they CAN give it to another player, but don't bother talking about it anymore if nobody's going to do it. But, they can't do it after the vote, they'd have to do it before. It can't actually negate votes and do any surprise poo poo, just make it so you can't vote for a person.
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Elphiem posted:Can individual immunity winners still give their necklace to another player? quote:Can they do it after the vote?
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