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the twist at the end of the maze runner is replaced with flashing text that says "this film was given a hugo award"
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Apr 4, 2015 22:42
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for next year's Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation (Short Form) I nominate the 2015 awards ceremony, a brilliant satire where the Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation (Long Form) is given to a 100-minute long toy commercial
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Apr 4, 2015 22:56
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the 2016 hugos are renamed the "gently caress you, john scalzi" awards
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Apr 4, 2015 22:57
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quote:Big Boys Don’t Cry by Tom Kratman (Castalia House) Where did i remember this name from ? Oh yeah, he teamed up with John Ringo to write one of the Baen alien-space-war-pulp novels, Watch on the Rhine (full novel), where John Ringo was the saner one of the pair quote:In the dark days after the events in the book Gust Front, but before the primary invasion, the Chancellor of Germany faces a critical decision. Over the years, with military cutbacks, the store of experienced military personnel had simply dwindled. After the destruction of Northern Virginia, he realized that it was necessary to tap the one group he had sworn never, ever, to recall: the few remaining survivors of the Waffen SS. Watch On the Rhine is perhaps the most unbiased, and brutal, look at the inner workings of the Waffen SS in history. Meticulously researched, it explores all that was good, and evil, about the most infamous military force in history using the backdrop of the Posleen invasion as a canvas. He pitched a wrote novel where the Waffen-SS were the good guys. As you read it you have alarms going off in your head, as you think "I'm not so much sure this was researched, as this guy already knew all this trivia about Nazis". The novel can be summed up as "Oh yeah, there was some bad eggs, but really there were people in that group fighting for the love of their country, against the communist-socialist-social justice people who sold out to the aliens and stabbed the modern-day Germany in the back." quote:Outside of the plant, of course—this being Germany, Germany being Green, and many—though not all—of the Green leadership having sold out to the Darhel, there was a continuous noisy protest against the plant, the projects it housed, the war effort, the draft . . . the name-your-left-leaning cause. Some of this is from Chapter 4, which writes longingly about a bunch of Nazis beating up hippies, where the hippies get beaten so badly one of them recognize the inherent manliness of the Nazis and go off to a recruiting centre to join. quote:Dieter Schultz and Rudi Harz, leading their men to and through the town, came upon a young man, half carrying a young woman. Their instincts and orders, heightened by the day's events, were to crush these two. Yet they seemed harmless, the man burdened and the woman bloody. evilbastard fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Apr 4, 2015 23:20
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Big Boys Don’t Cry is just a lovely ripoff of the Bolo series anyway.
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Apr 4, 2015 23:42
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What I always remember around Hugo time (or any award time really) is that authors tend to be hosed in the head. Not all authors, but quite a few, and some of those few are so spectacularly hosed up that they shine like autistic racist sexist diamonds, and somehow reflect poo poo shadows on the entire genre. I kinda missed the days pre internet when I didn't know poo poo about the authors I read and I rarely saw loving pants on head retarded poo poo like "Not ALL nazis!" when I went to the bookstore or looked for a book.
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Apr 4, 2015 23:48
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Cheers for the zombie books recs, looks like a good mix!
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Apr 4, 2015 23:55
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Jedit posted:Handling the Undead, by John Ajvide Lindqvist (of Let The Right One In fame). Go in as cold as possible, as it's not quite what you might expect. Is that the one that kicks off with the power surge? If so, it's been in my to read list way too god damned long and I need to crack that fucker open.
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Apr 5, 2015 00:10
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evilbastard posted:Where did i remember this name from ? Oh yeah, he teamed up with John Ringo to write one of the Baen alien-space-war-pulp novels, Watch on the Rhine (full novel), where John Ringo was the saner one of the pair Oh, the days when Kratman was somewhat sane, although still a Nazi. Let me tell you about space-muslims doing space-9/11 with space-blimps.
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Apr 5, 2015 00:13
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To be clear, I'm not saying there's anything not-terrible about his book where jews proudly join the resurrected SS, it's just that he somehow got worse.
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Apr 5, 2015 00:19
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chrisoya posted:To be clear, I'm not saying there's anything not-terrible about his book where jews proudly join the resurrected SS, it's just that he somehow got worse.
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Apr 5, 2015 00:58
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He also puts his critics into his books as dumb caricatures, but he prolly shares that habit with several famed literary authors so
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Apr 5, 2015 01:11
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Wow, just reading about all this Sad Puppies and Hugo nomination stuff http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/04/hugo-awards-nominations-swept-by-anti-sjw-anti-authoritarian-authors/ This is juicy as all hell. It's better than any book!
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Apr 5, 2015 01:11
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Apr 5, 2015 01:13
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thehomemaster posted:Wow, just reading about all this Sad Puppies and Hugo nomination stuff Well, better than any book these hacks have written at least
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Apr 5, 2015 01:28
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Holy crap Sad Puppies has to be the lamest name, if totally accurate for these types of sad motherfuckers. I kind of hate that they used Jim Butcher in their line up for stuff, since I rather like the Dresden Files, been meaning to read the Codex Alera series. That John Scalzi gets these people so drat mad makes me like him more. Guess I'll look up some of the winners from last years Hugo's s and those authors other works .
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Apr 5, 2015 01:33
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People freak out about 'the PC police' but when you realize people like Vox Day have threatened to shoot professional writers it means if you're a black writer you can't even turn up at your own industry's (shittier) award ceremony without being worried for your life. This is, of course, in the proud SF/F tradition, where groping a woman onstage gets laughed off as a quirk.
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Apr 5, 2015 01:51
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KomradeX posted:Holy crap Sad Puppies has to be the lamest name, if totally accurate for these types of sad motherfuckers. I kind of hate that they used Jim Butcher in their line up for stuff, since I rather like the Dresden Files, been meaning to read the Codex Alera series. That John Scalzi gets these people so drat mad makes me like him more. Guess I'll look up some of the winners from last years Hugo's s and those authors other works . Make sure you look up the title that beat out Vox Day's Opera Vita Aeterna for position 5 last year. It was 'No Award" (No Award, 1232 votes, Opera Vita Aeterna, 885 votes). For some reason, when the market speaks (the people who pay for the Hugo Memberships), the Sad Puppies just don't listen, and claim that lurkers support them in email.
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Apr 5, 2015 01:53
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I had the editor of a mag show up at a discussion on Facebook to defend Torgensen. Turns out the magazine was on the Sad Puppies slate. People are super dumb.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:07
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Megazver posted:John C. Wright, even though he's an insane turbo-fundie, is a decent writer, at least. I find him getting three nominations out of five amusing, actually. It's the other side of the endless Scalzi/McGuire nomination circlejerk coin in that it shows how poo poo Hugo procedure actually is. John C. Wright wrote several sequels to The Night Land. For those of you who don't know it, The Night Land is a really bizarre early twentieth century horror / dying earth novel about the last remnants of humanity living on an earth with no sun in the far future, in a giant fortress, under siege by evils ranging from fairly mundane monsters you might find in a roleplaying sourcebook to Lovecraft-style elder gods perched on the landscape moving toward the Last Redoubt literally slower than glaciers. The book is pretty famously difficult to approach, it's in a really odd pseudo-victorian style that was anachronistic when it was written, but it's worth tackling as it has some interesting things to say about the inevitability of extinction, the powerlessness of man in the face of a varyingly uncaring vs. actively hostile universe, and the worthiness and persistence of love and defiance in the face of all that. John C. Wright apparently thought what all that needed to spice it up was a pseudo-christian screed about totally-not-original-sin mixed with the occasional rant about how if women would just stop dressing like men and trying to be manly and go back to being demure and proper everything would be better. If anybody is interested in reading the night land, a more faithful fan produced a rewrite of the original book a few years ago that cuts down on the awkwardness of the language and gives the female lead a little more agency. It's actually pretty good. andrew smash fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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Apr 5, 2015 02:35
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John C. Wright might be a decent writer but his turbo-fundie bullshit turns me away. I can give my money and attention to plenty of other decent writers who don't advocate stripping me of my civil rights. If he had reached the Hugo ballot 'on his merits' and I were a regular voter I would at least try to read the nominated work then, but I feel perfectly fine ignoring him completely now and in general.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:51
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andrew smash posted:If anybody is interested in reading the night land, a more faithful fan produced a rewrite of the original book a few years ago that cuts down on the awkwardness of the language and gives the female lead a little more agency. It's actually pretty good. Seconding this. Here's a link. quote:I can give my money and attention to plenty of other decent writers who don't advocate stripping me of my civil rights. I wish more people understood this when they rush to white knight people like Wright. Ok, fine, you don't mind supporting a monster, but I'm not down with that and telling me how good their stories are is not going to sway me since there are literally more good stories out there than I could read in two lifetimes, and most of them are written by OK (though probably still flawed in a "not a neo-nazi" kind way) people. Ornamented Death fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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Apr 5, 2015 02:52
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Goblin Emperor to win Best Novel, eh? Makes me want to get out and vote.General Battuta posted:People freak out about 'the PC police' but when you realize people like Vox Day have threatened to shoot professional writers it means if you're a black writer you can't even turn up at your own industry's (shittier) award ceremony without being worried for your life. What? Who "laughed that off as a quirk"? corn in the bible posted:i want to live in a world where the maze runner somehow gets a hugo award and people have to live with that It was only on the Puppies slates, it isn't nominated. Also the film/TV awards are always garbage.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:04
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House Louse posted:What? Who "laughed that off as a quirk"? I think his point was that for a long time, both before and after that incident and others, harlan ellison was mostly seen as a randy old scamp rather than a piece of poo poo who happens to be a talented writer.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:13
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evilbastard posted:Make sure you look up the title that beat out Vox Day's Opera Vita Aeterna for position 5 last year. It was 'No Award" (No Award, 1232 votes, Opera Vita Aeterna, 885 votes). For some reason, when the market speaks (the people who pay for the Hugo Memberships), the Sad Puppies just don't listen, and claim that lurkers support them in email. My God is that hilarious, and quite glad to see I some times get very worried about how terribly reactionary so much of "nerd culture" can be. Which how is Ancillary Justice I've been on the fence about getting it. And I've been thinking about Subscribing to one of these fiction magazines and I can't decide between Lightspeed Magazine and Weird Tales.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:21
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KomradeX posted:Which how is Ancillary Justice I've been on the fence about getting it. It's pretty divisive, got good press and I liked it a lot but plenty of people hated it. The sequel was pretty dull. I will probably read the third book when it comes out just to see how she ties things together but i'm not terribly hopeful after ancillary sword.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:26
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Ancillary Justice is pretty good. It draws a strong picture of an imperial occupation in the one part and tells a decent adventure story in the other. Some of the characterisation didn't convince me. I thought the number of awards it won was grossly exaggerated, but that would be true of any novel that couldn't go on a Nobel Lit Prize cv when you win that many. If the premise interests you, go for it. If you've been drawn to it by comparisons to Banks I didn't think it was very similar to his work, but there are people ITT who have the complete opposite extreme of opinion about that. The gender language thing is a neat little detail but doesn't inform the novel in any strong way, it's not a latter-day Left Hand of Darkness or anything. Peel fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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Apr 5, 2015 04:32
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General Battuta posted:This is, of course, in the proud SF/F tradition, where groping a woman onstage gets laughed off as a quirk. (Seriously, was it Ellison?)
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Apr 5, 2015 05:02
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Yes it was Ellison; the woman was Connie Willis IIRC. They have a public prank-war/rivalry sort of history together as I understand it so it wasn't just a grope out of nowhere but...well, honestly I was never interested enough in the incident to go looking for firsthand accounts. Ellison is an rear end in a top hat but he's an rear end in a top hat I am still willing to read since (generally) he is someone with whom it is possible to disagree, if that makes sense. Also he's made way more contributions to the genre than Wright.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:07
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evilbastard posted:Make sure you look up the title that beat out Vox Day's Opera Vita Aeterna for position 5 last year. It was 'No Award" (No Award, 1232 votes, Opera Vita Aeterna, 885 votes). For some reason, when the market speaks (the people who pay for the Hugo Memberships), the Sad Puppies just don't listen, and claim that lurkers support them in email. people who voted them in are full sad puppy members though, so i don't get this.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:17
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NutritiousSnack posted:people who voted them in are full sad puppy members though, so i don't get this. Nominating for the Hugos is free, voting for the winners requires a paid WorldCon membership (IIRC, $60). It's kind of steep and I've never bought one, but on the bright side you do get a voter's pack which gives you most or all of the written stuff up for selection. I'm assuming it's because there are plenty of people who are willing to make a statement if it's free, but aren't so emotionally invested in pushing the Sad Puppies ballot that they're willing to pay $60 to make it win.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:45
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andrew smash posted:John C. Wright apparently thought what all that needed to spice it up was a pseudo-christian screed about totally-not-original-sin mixed with the occasional rant about how if women would just stop dressing like men and trying to be manly and go back to being demure and proper everything would be better. Nah actually Awake in the Night Land is a pretty good and enjoyable collection. He actually wrote the last story while he was an atheist, surprisingly.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:55
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Ornamented Death posted:I wish more people understood this when they rush to white knight people like Wright. Ok, fine, you don't mind supporting a monster, but I'm not down with that and telling me how good their stories are is not going to sway me since there are literally more good stories out there than I could read in two lifetimes, and most of them are written by OK (though probably still flawed in a "not a neo-nazi" kind way) people. They're fine with it because his writing is politically correct. It doesn't matter whether his writing's that good (I mean, six Hugo noms? Jesus, they could have at least picked something to consolidate their efforts around), but that it's ideologically pure enough for them to get behind. andrew smash posted:I think his point was that for a long time, both before and after that incident and others, harlan ellison was mostly seen as a randy old scamp rather than a piece of poo poo who happens to be a talented writer. itym Harlan Ellison™ 100% agreed, though; Ellison™ is the poster-boy for Geek Social Fallacies as they manifest in the professional sphere of science fiction.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:57
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Neurosis posted:Nah actually Awake in the Night Land is a pretty good and enjoyable collection. He actually wrote the last story while he was an atheist, surprisingly. I've read it, it's not good and completely misreads everything that made the night land such a remarkable book in the first place.
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Apr 5, 2015 06:07
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andrew smash posted:I've read it, it's not good and completely misreads everything that made the night land such a remarkable book in the first place. I don't really see how that accusation can be leveled against the first few stories, whatever your opinion of the final one is.
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Apr 5, 2015 06:11
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andrew smash posted:If anybody is interested in reading the night land, a more faithful fan produced a rewrite of the original book a few years ago that cuts down on the awkwardness of the language and gives the female lead a little more agency. It's actually pretty good. I'm interested, but who are you talking about exactly?
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Apr 5, 2015 07:56
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The Night Land: A Story Retold by James Stoddard.
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Apr 5, 2015 08:39
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Crashbee posted:I'm interested, but who are you talking about exactly? It was posted a little bit ago up the page. Ornamented Death posted:Seconding this. Here's a link.
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I read James Stoddard's first novel, The High House, and it was terrible, which was a shame cos I love the premise of an infinitely large house. I'll really go for anything with that kind of setting. The Anarchists and Bobby were pinched from The Man Who Was Thursday so at the least he's got good taste.andrew smash posted:I think his point was that for a long time, both before and after that incident and others, harlan ellison was mostly seen as a randy old scamp rather than a piece of poo poo who happens to be a talented writer. My point was that I thought it marked a pretty clean break between him being seen as a randy old scamp and as a public molester. occamsnailfile posted:Yes it was Ellison; the woman was Connie Willis IIRC. They have a public prank-war/rivalry sort of history together as I understand it so it wasn't just a grope out of nowhere but...well, honestly I was never interested enough in the incident to go looking for firsthand accounts. Willis was the victim, and it wasn't planned, it ended their friendship. Venusian Weasel posted:Nominating for the Hugos is free, voting for the winners requires a paid WorldCon membership (IIRC, $60). It's kind of steep and I've never bought one, but on the bright side you do get a voter's pack which gives you most or all of the written stuff up for selection. Nope; nominating requires a supporting or attending membership of either the worldcon where the Hugos will be awarded, or the one before or after. Voting requires membership of the worldcon where they'll be awarded. Supporting memberships go for about $40, which is incredibly cheap considering the voters' packet, and mean you could vote for $13 a year, if you're cheap. In other news I found a hardback of Sugar Rain by Paul Park yesterday, by luck, so that was a good day. The opening describes an allegorical mural of space and a sleeping giant, like a mix between Dante and Indian myth.
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