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Ryas posted:Bellri's cover of "G no Senkou." Good stuff, thanks.
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This series could really use a Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut.
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Apr 1, 2015 10:57
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I'm watching Overman King Gainer, and I really wish you assholes hadn't been all, "oh I hope Kia Mbeki and Kun Soon turn out to be alive at the end just like those characters from Overman King Gainer who apparently die early on but you find out at the end they didn't!" That would've been a nice surprise!
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Apr 5, 2015 03:09
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boom boom boom posted:I'm watching Overman King Gainer, and I really wish you assholes hadn't been all, "oh I hope Kia Mbeki and Kun Soon turn out to be alive at the end just like those characters from Overman King Gainer who apparently die early on but you find out at the end they didn't!" Oh no, spoilers from a 13-year-old show!
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Apr 5, 2015 03:13
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To be fair, after a certain point I forgot they even survive.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:16
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Midjack posted:Oh no, spoilers from a 13-year-old show! I haven't watched all the animes from the past 13 years. I try, but occasionally I do need to take breaks to sleep or to have my bedpan changed and to be turned so I don't get bedsores.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:17
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boom boom boom posted:I'm watching Overman King Gainer, and I really wish you assholes hadn't been all, "oh I hope Kia Mbeki and Kun Soon turn out to be alive at the end just like those characters from Overman King Gainer who apparently die early on but you find out at the end they didn't!" Hey guess what you just spoiled me about.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:29
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boom boom boom posted:I'm watching Overman King Gainer, and I really wish you assholes hadn't been all, "oh I hope Kia Mbeki and Kun Soon turn out to be alive at the end just like those characters from Overman King Gainer who apparently die early on but you find out at the end they didn't!" You're welcome.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:30
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Raxivace posted:Hey guess what you just spoiled me about. Oh come on, don't read the last page of a tv series that just ended if you want to avoid spoilers about that show.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:35
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boom boom boom posted:I haven't watched all the animes from the past 13 years. I try, but occasionally I do need to take breaks to sleep or to have my bedpan changed and to be turned so I don't get bedsores. There's a statute of limitations on spoilers unless you think we need to talk about every show that ever aired using spoiler tags?
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Apr 5, 2015 03:45
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boom boom boom posted:Oh come on, don't read the last page of a tv series that just ended if you want to avoid spoilers about that show. Gainer didn't just end.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:46
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Sakurazuka posted:There's a statute of limitations on spoilers unless you think we need to talk about every show that ever aired using spoiler tags? Yes.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:50
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lol good luck with that
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Apr 5, 2015 03:52
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Sakurazuka posted:lol good luck with that At the very least spoiler tag stuff from the actual last episode of show. People in the chat thread were talking about Gunbuster, but nobody said any explicit stuff about the last episode of Gunbuster, cause others had said they hadn't seen the show.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:54
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People spoiled that too, gently caress to spoiler protection.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:05
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To use the spoil tag is to submit to ultimate weakness.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:07
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Sakurazuka posted:There's a statute of limitations on spoilers unless you think we need to talk about every show that ever aired using spoiler tags? Sure, but you shouldn't just fire off big spoilers for shows in random threads. Some people haven't seen poo poo, even if it is a decade old. It's like running into a Star Trek threading going "HEY GUYS SO HOW ABOUT VADER BEING LUKE'S FATHER?" just because it's not a Star Wars thread.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:35
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Anyone who doesn't already know that deserves to get spoiled on it.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:36
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brb just going into a random CD thread to tell them 'Rosebud was the name of a sled'.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:38
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I think that's a poor example, especially because stuff like these minor characters are around later is so nonimportant that if it seriously ruins the media you are watching bad media. Good media is about the execution of the journey, not the specifics of the stops along the way.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:42
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Sharkopath posted:Good media is about the execution of the journey, not the specifics of the stops along the way. Except you can kill the tone if you already know what's going to happen. Part of the journey is not knowing what's coming next.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:06
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Except you can kill the tone if you already know what's going to happen. Part of the journey is not knowing what's coming next. All that means is you can focus more on the execution of other areas, a good piece of art has so many facets of it that are important or worth attention that knowing who dies at the end doesn't matter. If you're watching trash it can ruin it, I'll admit.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:08
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Knowing who dues doesn't matter, the pacing of their death, the environment and circumstances where it happens, how it affects the rest of the cast and their own thoughts and feelings on the issue, the way it effects the dynamic of the journey going forwars, how well it was shot or drawn and described, all those are the important elements of fiction.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:10
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And you can't spoil all that in under multiple paragraphs.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:10
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you should really try reading up the synopsis of the next big thing you watch because what actually happens when you know what is supposed to happen next is you focus on the smaller details that are overlooked more often than not, especially for classics that deserve that level of attention. It's a fun way to do things.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:13
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While it's often the intention that the audience goes in without foreknowledge, a good story with a spoiler or twist is often more enjoyable if you already know the spoiler. Like KOTOR1.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:13
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I think I should mention again that the spoiler being discussed is that Yassaba Jin of the series Overman King Gainer disappears and is not seen again a handful of episodes in, and then reappears at the very end of the finale of the series alive and well. It's such a super minor thing that makes boom3s flailing about over it funny.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:19
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Oh, so it's a "hey remember this guy? Betcha didn't" sort of thing.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:25
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Oh, so it's a "hey remember this guy? Betcha didn't" sort of thing. Yeah he was a minor antagonist to begin with so you just assume he died or went somewhere else, he absence isn't really noticed and doesn't impact the story in any way and neither does his reapparance. The operative word in spoil is what bugs me the most, it's the idea that the knowledge of parts of a story suddenly absolutely ruins the whole product, and a mystical perfect virginal experience is lost to the viewer forever.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:29
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ImpAtom posted:If someone doesn't want to be spoiled they're not going to enjoy it no matter how much justification you throw their way. It means they're a big baby and I'm going to lock them in a safe, for their safety.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:30
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The babysafe for nospoilers zone.
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Sharkopath posted:you should really try reading up the synopsis of the next big thing you watch because what actually happens when you know what is supposed to happen next is you focus on the smaller details that are overlooked more often than not, especially for classics that deserve that level of attention. You could also just watch things twice. Sharkopath posted:Yeah he was a minor antagonist to begin with so you just assume he died or went somewhere else, he absence isn't really noticed and doesn't impact the story in any way and neither does his reapparance. You assume he died, because the scene is set up to make you think he died. And being told that he doesn't die does actually spoil the surprise that he doesn't Of course it doesn't spoil the entire show, but it does spoil what is clearly just supposed to be a nice little bonus at the end. Surprise and emotions can enhance the viewing experience of a series.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:32
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Sharkopath posted:It means they're a big baby and I'm going to lock them in a safe, for their safety. This argument ignores the idea that lack of knowledge also can contribute to a work. Overlooking elements, being surprised by them, and other things like that are emotional connections to a work that being spoiled can ruin. You can always rewatch something and see the smaller details but you can't regain a 'fresh' experience and the way you'd view the story without prior knowledge. If you don't enjoy that, fine, but it isn't universal and you don't need to be a poo poo about it.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:While it's often the intention that the audience goes in without foreknowledge, a good story with a spoiler or twist is often more enjoyable if you already know the spoiler. But it's still the viewer's personal choice. If you go wandering into the Gundam thread you shouldn't be surprised when big spoilers get lobbed about casually. It's gonna happen, it's the general discussion thread for a whole franchise. But casually dropping key spoilers for random other shows is just a dick thing to do when there's always people putting in the effort to avoid them as best they can. Sharkopath posted:The operative word in spoil is what bugs me the most, it's the idea that the knowledge of parts of a story suddenly absolutely ruins the whole product, and a mystical perfect virginal experience is lost to the viewer forever. ...Because it is? Most people like going in without foreknowledge because the whole experience is fresh and new. Anything you put in contradiction to that is only ever going to be your own personal opinion, and just comes off as insulting them.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:33
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You are all going into the safe, there is no longer a chance of escape.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:34
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I promise to let you out when the world is safe and secure again.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:36
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Sharkopath posted:You are all going into the safe, there is no longer a chance of escape. Post a quick summary of the last episode of Gunbuster in the chat thread. People in there have said they plan to watch the show, finding out what happens at the end before they watch it should enhance their viewing experience, right? You aren't actually going to do that, because even if you do believe that knowing what's going to happens always makes watching a show better, you also know that other people disagree, and you respect other people's emotions. You're just talking big for humor on the internet.
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OTOH you should spoil DieBuster as much as possible. Despite what its op might tell you, that show actually isn't groovin' and should be avoided at all costs.
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boom boom boom posted:Post a quick summary of the last episode of Gunbuster in the chat thread. People in there have said they plan to watch the show, finding out what happens at the end before they watch it should enhance their viewing experience, right? Nope.
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