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littleorv posted:Since Final Fantasy XV is basically an anime road trip it got me wondering if there were any good animes about road trips. Any suggestions? You could give Michiko to Hatchin a go.
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littleorv posted:Since Final Fantasy XV is basically an anime road trip it got me wondering if there were any good animes about road trips. Any suggestions? Gensou Maden Saiyuki does have its moments, but calling it good is probably going too far. It's about as road-trip as it gets though.
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Apr 2, 2015 08:52
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Seconding Mitchiko to Hatchin. It's one of those shows that deserves to be way better known that it actually is.
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Apr 2, 2015 12:02
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So I saw on Wikipedia that Madhouse made an anime thing for the movie Ultraviolet? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet:_Code_044 Anyone know if it's any good? Or, even better, if it has any scenes even approaching this level of ridiculous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKCe0zOHSoY
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Apr 3, 2015 07:11
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It's not great, the only interesting thing about it was that it was one of the last things Osamu Dezaki directed before he died.
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Apr 3, 2015 07:14
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Well that's unfortunate
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Apr 3, 2015 08:10
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littleorv posted:Since Final Fantasy XV is basically an anime road trip it got me wondering if there were any good animes about road trips. Any suggestions? If you're down for reading comics Steel Ball Run is also pretty awesome. Because it's long as gently caress and revels in whatever the Japanese version of Americana is 20th Century Boys has a roadtrip arc that ends the comic and is awesome as gently caress, but the whole comic isn't about a road trip, it just contains a road trip that happens to be the length of many existing comics. Most straight road trip stuff I can think of that isn't part of a bigger whole is kinda lovely stuff like Saiyuki, Kenran Butōsai, and, uh, Golden Boy (the porniest non-porn anime ever). I guess if you stretch the definition HunterxHunter and One Piece could count.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:If you're down for reading comics Steel Ball Run is also pretty awesome. Because it's long as gently caress and revels in whatever the Japanese version of Americana is 20th Century Boys has a roadtrip arc that ends the comic and is awesome as gently caress, but the whole comic isn't about a road trip, it just contains a road trip that happens to be the length of many existing comics. I'm waiting for Stardust Crusaders to finish up and then I'm going to read the Manga in order starting from Diamond is Unbreakable. Thanks for the rec though. As soon as I finish up Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood I'm going to check out Michiko to Hatchin. A friend of mine is trying to get me to watch Angel Beats but uh... I don't know about that
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Apr 5, 2015 05:36
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angel beats was okay, but it's weird people still care about it in 2015
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Apr 5, 2015 05:38
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El Estrago Bonito posted:If you're down for reading comics Steel Ball Run is also pretty awesome. Because it's long as gently caress and revels in whatever the Japanese version of Americana is 20th Century Boys has a roadtrip arc that ends the comic and is awesome as gently caress, but the whole comic isn't about a road trip, it just contains a road trip that happens to be the length of many existing comics. golden boy is good
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Cake Attack posted:angel beats was okay, but it's weird people still care about it in 2015 I liked it, and am sad that it didn't get the episode count it clearly was expecting to have.
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Apr 5, 2015 05:54
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El Estrago Bonito posted:uh, Golden Boy (the porniest non-porn anime ever). Lol not even close to the porniest. Golden Boy is good tho. I would not call it a road trip anime or manga tho. it's more of a wandering ronin kinda thing.
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Apr 5, 2015 09:23
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I liked it, and am sad that it didn't get the episode count it clearly was expecting to have. in 2020
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Apr 5, 2015 09:50
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I liked it, and am sad that it didn't get the episode count it clearly was expecting to have. Pretty much my opinion. I really liked the individual stories.
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Apr 5, 2015 15:10
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Looking for a story that either has good mystery or unfolds in an unexpected way. Madoka Magicka surprisingly ended up probably being my favorite anime of all time. Urobuchi's other work that I've seen has been good but not as good. Paranoia Agent was also pretty awesome but likewise I've enjoyed satoshi kons other work less. One of my issues is that if the story is too slow I seem to lose attention and not finish the show. I liked Durarara a lot but couldn't get through Baccano. I guess a darker adult theme would be a plus but not necessary. Any thoughts?
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Apr 5, 2015 20:22
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Have you seen Higurashi no Naku Koro ni/When They Cry? The first episode starts of looking like a harem sol comedy thing but then it all goes to poo poo from there, you don't really get much explanation for the mystery side until the second season though. The other things I can think of like Lain might be a bit slow. If you like Madoka try Utena or Princess Tutu, they're both kind of dark in their own way but not quite so grimdark as Urobuchi's stuff. VVVV Giant Robo is a drat good suggestion. Sakurazuka fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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Apr 5, 2015 20:29
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Giant Robo: The Day The Earth Stood Still has a solid mystery at its core, and they do a fine job at slowly unraveling the central mystery. Since it's only 7 episodes long, it can't afford to sit around and faff about while pondering about ~that event~, and instead it dishes out some new info in every episode. It's not the only thing it has going for it of course, but it's one of the series that quickly comes to my mind when thinking of a mystery that's resolved in a satisfying way.
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Apr 5, 2015 20:30
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Gejimayu posted:Looking for a story that either has good mystery or unfolds in an unexpected way. Madoka Magicka surprisingly ended up probably being my favorite anime of all time. Urobuchi's other work that I've seen has been good but not as good. Paranoia Agent was also pretty awesome but likewise I've enjoyed satoshi kons other work less. the answer is From the New World, it is 26 episodes though so I'm not sure if that's too long. And I know you mentioned Kon's other work, but just to check: have you seen Perfect Blue?
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Apr 5, 2015 20:33
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Gejimayu posted:Looking for a story that either has good mystery or unfolds in an unexpected way. Madoka Magicka surprisingly ended up probably being my favorite anime of all time. Urobuchi's other work that I've seen has been good but not as good. Paranoia Agent was also pretty awesome but likewise I've enjoyed satoshi kons other work less.
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Apr 5, 2015 20:37
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a kitten posted:the answer is From the New World, it is 26 episodes though so I'm not sure if that's too long. This is a very good suggestion, more in the "unfolds in an unexpected way" sense but there is also a lot of mysterious / weird backstory and setting details which get revealed. It does get pretty gory at times and some people took great offense at the gay romance scenes so be warned! It's a little bit too close to something written by an edgy teenager for me to really call it a classic I would still strongly recommend it.
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Apr 5, 2015 21:38
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From the New World isn't really "edgy" at all, though, insofar as the ending (and everything leading up to it) are about recognizing the fundamental dignity of your enemies, and trying to live honestly and make things better from within a broken, oppressive society rather than burning it all to the ground and starting fresh. It's one of the most reasonable and thematically coherent conclusions I can think of in an anime.
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Apr 5, 2015 21:43
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RabidWeasel posted:some people took great offense at the gay romance scenes so be warned! The way people were shocked by this is really weird. People complained that it "came out of nowhere" even though the characters in question were clearly established as bisexual before that. Mostly it seems that a lot of male viewers who fap to girls kissing girls were disgusted by the idea of boys kissing boys. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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Apr 5, 2015 22:10
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I was more bothered by how it reinforced the 'it's just an adolescent phase' thing rather than anything else, but that's just me, it's still one of the best shows from the past couple of years.
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Sakurazuka posted:I was more bothered by how it reinforced the 'it's just an adolescent phase' thing rather than anything else, but that's just me, it's still one of the best shows from the past couple of years. I can definitely see that being bothersome, but I thought they were all specifically bi...and possibly poly.
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Apr 5, 2015 22:23
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Thanks for the advice, guys. I'll check out at least a few episodes of the stuff recommended. I haven't seen Perfect Blue but will check that out. Steins;Gate seemed interesting but I didn't finish it. I'm gonna re-check it out.
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a kitten posted:I can definitely see that being bothersome, but I thought they were all specifically bi...and possibly poly. It's been a while since I've watched it properly but I seem to remember it being portrayed as a safe way for them to express their pre-programed 'sex instead of violence' response as teenagers but they were expected to settle down with a member of the opposite sex and a certain amount of the trouble within the group comes from characters being gay/bi and not wanting to let go of their adolescent relationships. On the other hand their society is generally shown as being not ideal. So, I dunno really. :/
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:From the New World isn't really "edgy" at all, though, insofar as the ending (and everything leading up to it) are about recognizing the fundamental dignity of your enemies, and trying to live honestly and make things better from within a broken, oppressive society rather than burning it all to the ground and starting fresh. No you're right, the theming is fantastic, I just feel like it's a little excessively brutal at times and has a slight air of trying too hard to be shocking. It's only a minor, occasional complaint and the overall conclusion is really well done. Sakurazuka posted:It's been a while since I've watched it properly but I seem to remember it being portrayed as a safe way for them to express their pre-programed 'sex instead of violence' response as teenagers but they were expected to settle down with a member of the opposite sex and a certain amount of the trouble within the group comes from characters being gay/bi and not wanting to let go of their adolescent relationships. On the other hand their society is generally shown as being not ideal. So, I dunno really. :/ I don't quite remember this plot point all that well as it's also been a while but I got the impression that there was a heavy social pressure to have children since their population was so low - which is why homosexual relationships were tolerated, but seen as 'childish' as they didn't have the element of 'sacrifice for the good of community'. I seem to recall it being suggested that some of the adult characters still had homosexual feelings or relationships that continued even after they were married and had kids, but it's quite possible that I made this up in my head because it was nicer for everyone involved that way 
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Sakurazuka posted:I was more bothered by how it reinforced the 'it's just an adolescent phase' thing rather than anything else, but that's just me, it's still one of the best shows from the past couple of years.
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RabidWeasel posted:No you're right, the theming is fantastic, I just feel like it's a little excessively brutal at times and has a slight air of trying too hard to be shocking. It's only a minor, occasional complaint and the overall conclusion is really well done. On the contrary I think they wanted to have a low population. They want just enough people to run the community, but not so many that they become impossible to effectively control with their iron fist. Given that everyone is superhuman and can wreck poo poo pretty bad, control is pretty important
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ViggyNash posted:On the contrary I think they wanted to have a low population. They want just enough people to run the community, but not so many that they become impossible to effectively control with their iron fist. Given that everyone is superhuman and can wreck poo poo pretty bad, control is pretty important Given how people were straight up 'disappeared' I figured that they needed a relatively high number of couples making kids just to keep things ticking over, to compensate for the 'losses'. I feel like I should give it a rewatch now though, it's definitely worth the time.
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No way to get hard numbers on the psyker demographics of Shinsekai Yori. From what little we'd seen, the demographics are literally unsustainable for the level of social control. Each generation is getting smaller and smaller, as another section of the village is written off for a Karma Demon popping out, or so on. The village is slowly strangling itself in an effort to not self combust. The last time an Ogre appeared, the village even had some modern facilities and hospitals, now even that has been stripped away. If you want another dark mystery/horror series, I'd like to recommend Shiki. This show challenged the hell out of my beliefs and preconceptions. The story is implicitly liberal, vampires are fundamentally as human as the actual humans, and I can accept that. Following on from that, vampires can be negotiated with, and a truce and treaty can be made and enforced to guarantee human rights for both groups. Throughout the series, individual vampires and humans had come to understandings: turned friends and family can still be friends and family. But, the vampires attacked first under false pretenses, and neither side's leaders were interested in negotiating or compromising. The two people who straddled both sides threw in their lots with one or another, and the whole scenario exploded into a straight up pogrom. It is a story of a failure of liberalism and tolerance.
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The Skull Man fits q uite a few of those criteria I think
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Phobophilia posted:
Uhhhh I dunno about all that but Shiki is bomb as hell. Great looking show, great, though slow, pacing. Fantastic soundtrack.
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Apr 6, 2015 00:56
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What's an anime that's like Genshiken?
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Apr 6, 2015 03:06
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Endorph posted:"I just don't feel like life is worth living anymore. It's not - like anything bad's happened to me, I just can't work up the motivation to care about anything. I have to force myself to get out of bed most days." Anime therapy seems like a good thread idea.
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DamnGlitch posted:Uhhhh I dunno about all that but Shiki is bomb as hell. Great looking show, great, though slow, pacing. Fantastic soundtrack. Every now and then you run into a screaming slapfight on /a/ on whether or not the Shiki Were Right.
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I really wanted to like Shiki more than I did. Some of the character designs are utter crap, and this ends up undermining a lot of the horror/tragedy of the piece at times. There's some pretty poor comedy too. In fact, the tone of the piece can waver pretty badly at times (the dub, which is the only version I've yet had the opportunity to see, actively detracts in this regard). Plus, occasionally characters would spend time rocking backwards and forwards on their heels instead of trying to do anything about what was going on. There's slow pacing, and then there's completely passive heroes, and the series suffers from the latter. I also felt that the queer stuff with one of the leads and his vampire lover (Toru?) was, ultimately, utterly homophobic. It's perfectly fine for most of the run, but once the lead dude dies and is resurrected, the two basically stop interacting, and any implications about their relationship is swept under the rug. Then Toru ends up being staked to a pallet embracing another woman, in what amounts to a really ugly (not to say morbid) affirmation of his heterosexuality. I was pretty unhappy with that, honestly. All said, I do want to emphasise that the last third or so is completely killer, and well worth any hang-ups I had about getting there. It's thought provoking, and I definitely thought it was worth my time, but some of the aesthetic choices really undermined the thing. I'd recommend it, as long as you're willing to suffer some poor directional choices. Oh, and if you're watching the show, make sure you watch it with the OVAs that were reinserted into the last arc of the show. They're both pretty good, and contain some of the show's best horror sequences.
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They couldn't move rapidly to diagnose the epidemic because it is a deliberately real-world setting. You go and start screaming about a vampire infestation and staking people, and see how long it takes before you get committed. The villagers refused to see it as a vampire infestation because even if it's a rural village, it's still in constant contact with the rest of the world and the central government. The villagers are conservative enough to be self-conscious about how they are seen by the rest of the world. It's not like they don't have a highway running past it and electricity and running water, there are even city folk who have moved into the village. They have one foot planted in the past, and one foot planted in modernity, and the obligations to the latter prevented them from jumping straight into superstitious paranoia. Also, Natsuno and Tooru are just really close friends. Unless Natsuno give a deep kiss to Tooru on the lips, the author is merely baiting the female audience. But Natsuno was terrible in the 2nd half. Apparently he dies for real in the original novel, but is revived and turned into a supervampire in the manga/anime. Which is the reason he barely contributes in the 2nd half, and why he essentially kills himself and puts himself out of the way of the plot. The relationship between Ozaki and Muroi and the roles set aside to them by the village is more interesting. We see Ozaki's gradual fall from a doctor who followed to hippocratic oath, to a man obsessed with victory. His priorities have become (1) defeat the Shiki, (2) save the village, and (3) save individual people. He could have saved the lives of many of those who were bitten but unturned, but he couldn't be bothered. Muroi, on the other hand, initially sought some kind of understanding between the humans and Shiki in the spirit of Buddhism and liberalism.But he grew to realise in his heart of hearts that he hated the village and all those who resided within it, and would gladly betray it for his own selfish desires. Phobophilia fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Phobophilia posted:They couldn't move rapidly to diagnose the epidemic because it is a deliberately real-world setting. You go and start screaming about a vampire infestation and staking people, and see how long it takes before you get committed. The villagers refused to see it as a vampire infestation because even if it's a rural village, it's still in constant contact with the rest of the world and the central government. The villagers are conservative enough to be self-conscious about how they are seen by the rest of the world. It's not like they don't have a highway running past it and electricity and running water, there are even city folk who have moved into the village. They have one foot planted in the past, and one foot planted in modernity, and the obligations to the latter prevented them from jumping straight into superstitious paranoia. But after one of the characters has video evidence, he just sits on it for an episode, then pops around to the government building (which he knows is suspicious) and gives the entire game away. He doesn't try to send out copies of the tapes, he doesn't try to inform other people before wandering into a vampire den, he does nothing. He is spectacularly stupid at some points. quote:Also, Natsuno and Tooru are just really close friends. Unless Natsuno give a deep kiss to Tooru on the lips, the author is merely baiting the female audience. Heterosexual unless proven homosexual, right? Just because there's only subtext doesn't mean my interpretation of those scenes is the only valid one. Hell, the production proved itself to be subtle in other departments, why not here? I don't want to bring in outside evidence to support my reading, since it should be able to stand on its own, but queerness in Japan is expressed significantly differently -- it's vaguely acceptable to be gay, as long as you don't actually say anything. Coming out is the weird part, since that's seen as rocking the boat. It's possible to see the relationship between those two guys in Shiki as something of an open secret -- Megumi certainly seems to think so -- and certainly some of their actions only seem to make sense if they're same-sex attracted. I dunno, it's like you're trying to claim that Rope is definitely about two straight dudes, just because neither of them make out with each other. Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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I'm looking recommendations on anime or manga where the protagonist is sent to a fantasy world. Its probably a plot that's been done to death but I honestly can't remember watching or reading anything that's done it outside of Escaflowne and Inuyasha, and I didn't care much for the latter. A story about being trapped in a game is good as well as long as its not like SAO or Log Horizon. I tried both, but they didn't have the stranger alone in a strange land vibe I was looking for since everyone was a player, not just the protagonist.
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