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drat youre right mine is cocked can I shake yours instead?
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Baaaaahahahaha so FMCs arriving via deep strike have to be swooping. A summoned bloodthirster can't assault anything for two turns. *throws Daemonkin codex in bin*
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spacegoat posted:Baaaaahahahaha so FMCs arriving via deep strike have to be swooping. A summoned bloodthirster can't assault anything for two turns. *throws Daemonkin codex in bin* It has been pointed out that using the Blood Tithe ability happens before the movement phase, so while it arrives in Swoop mode, you can immediately switch modes and assault on the turn following its arrival (which is pretty much standard for such units.) Does leave you pretty vulnerable to guns still, tho.
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While I'd prefer that were the ruling (praying to not mishap and then sitting around for one turn is bad enough) but why would the rule exist at all? Deep striking units can't assault anyway so why else would they force a flight mode on you?
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Remember when I posted bad cell phone pictures of my models? Well, I finally re-took them using my DSLR setup. None of these have any post-effects. Despite that, it's basically a transmogrification.              I also won 'Traitor Of The Month' over on Bolter & ChainSword for my breacher squad. They asked me to take shots of the whole army. I'll only make you suffer through the breachers since this thread has put up with my poo poo for far too long anyway. They are the best and worst things I’ve ever painted: the worst because they took me the longest, but the best because they took me the longest.       Here are closeups of my favorites. I feel the conversions really help bring these guys to life instead of making them look like a static wall:                       Here's my Vexillari (or "standard barer" in sperg). Of all my models, I spent the most time on these two. They're the best infantry models I’ve painted to date.       I also started a lovely blog if you're into bad puns. All my tutorials, image dumps, and libertarian rants are there- so you don't have to dig through my post history (lets face it, nobody wants to dig through 100 pages of BULBASAUR poo poo posts). BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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Can someone give me a hand finding a bit? I'm looking for a space marine right arm that is able to hold something (I'm going to put a book in there). There's lots of left hand options for things like holding bolters but no luck otherwise. Any help?
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BULBASAUR those are some amazing tiny mans
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Holy poo poo that's a lot of pictures. Amazing poo poo though, dude. Everything's really well done and the amount of effort is obvious. I'm going to be real interested to see what you do with Perturabo when he's eventually released.
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dimi posted:Can someone give me a hand finding a bit? I'm looking for a space marine right arm that is able to hold something (I'm going to put a book in there). There's lots of left hand options for things like holding bolters but no luck otherwise. Any help? If you can't find one from a space marine, this canoness has a bit that might work.
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Those Iron Warriors are loving boss, dude. The better camera makes a huge difference in the coloring.
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So, opening games on the new table. First game was my Ork trash mob against ShadowDaishi's Wolves for the TheChirurgaign. I was obligingly demolished, and my killa kans extended their run of "games played without scoring a meaningful hit" to 3. Second was more interesting. We decided to play 750, as a test run of our lists for the next round of TheCampirurgaign in a couple of weeks. Dark Angels: librarian 10 tactical mans, plasma gun, rhino 5 tactical mans, plasma gun, rhino 5 bikes, 2 meltas and a combi-melta 5 devastators, 4 missile launchers Land speeder, heavy bolter and assault cannon Space Wolves: 10 Blood Claws 10 Grey Hunters wolf lord with power sword Vindicator 3 thunderwolf cav, regular bolt pistol/CCW long fangs, 2 missiles and a lascannon I took one picture, during my first turn:  You can sort of guess my strategy from that, but: I went first, hid the speeder and the rhinos behind terrain, and scout moved the bikes as far as possible to try and blow up the Vindicator before it got to shoot. That loving thing has kicked my rear end all back and forth across the table, and blowing it up would free my tacticals from having to hide in their rhinos, and let the missiles worry about his long fangs. Plus it made him kinda mad, probably, which rules but is why I stopped taking pictures - didn't want to seem like I was gloating (also I forgot). The bikes charged up, rolled two glances and a penetrating hit (which turned into an explosion that killed one of the bikers - which is why the list says five and the picture has four). The missiles took out most of his long fangs, but they left one of his missiles firing, which took out a couple more guys over the course of the game. His turn, the wolves ran in and murdered my bikes, which is fine, I'm not super thrilled but I'll make that trade. Then were was two turns of his dudes hiding in that middle piece of terrain and me chipping wounds off with the speeder, while our heavy weapon squads pinged krak missiles off each other. The real goal here was me trying to stay out of assault range, and him trying to stay out of LoS for shooting. Turn 4 I piled out of the rhinos and double-tapped into the Grey Hunters, who got rekt and fell back a bit, and then killed one of his thunderwolves with overwatch, which hosed up his charge and took the game from "maybe he can do some punching and make it a close loss" to "I kind of feel bad about how bad you got demolished and should send your family a card expressing my condolences". We called it then. All in all, I'm pretty happy with this list, and with the fact that, for once, I bothered to think about what my mans were up to, instead of just like, running around and getting punched in the face (like, I couldn't think of a good thing to murder with the speeder turn one, so I just kept it in the backfield where at least it would not get murdered). Though, really, the only reason I got away with that is because he didn't think about how dangerous scouting bikes with meltas are, and if the Vindicator were a couple inches further back or positioned so I couldn't get front armor, it never would have worked - I'm fairly certainly I'll never get away with that trick again. I suggested to Daesh that he cram a rhino into the list if he can, use it to screen the wolves as they move up the field, and I'm not sure about the long fangs - it's good that he finally has some long range shooting, but I'm not sure the 2 missiles 1 las (which he planned to split-fire out, if I hadn't murdered the thing the top of turn one) layout really works? I'm not sure what he really could have done there, after the vindicator blew up, since I wasn't going to oblige him wanting to murderpunch my dudes, and he didn't have anything that could open up the rhinos.
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Whilst we're posting 30k stuff, here's my first completed VIII legion Terror Squad
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Cataphract posted:Whilst we're posting 30k stuff, here's my first completed VIII legion Terror Squad I don't know why but the middle one reminds me of Sylvester Stallone.
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Irate Tree posted:I don't know why but the middle one reminds me of Sylvester Stallone. Looks more like Jack Black to me.
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Irate Tree posted:I don't know why but the middle one reminds me of Sylvester Stallone.
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BULBASAUR, your Iron Warriors look so loving good.
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ANAmal.net posted:I murdered my friend Yeah, a lot of what contributed to your victory will likely never happen again. Provided you rolled to go first and he deployed second, his deployment created several vulnerabilities which he will probably learn to avoid from now on. As for the Long Fangs, they're not a bad idea at all and are one of the nice differences that Space Wolves have compared to standard Space Marine armies, but like every other Heavy Support non-vehicle unit if there's no cover they're essentially hosed. Your table looks nice but without any Ruins or
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PierreTheMime posted:Yeah, a lot of what contributed to your victory will likely never happen again. Provided you rolled to go first and he deployed second, his deployment created several vulnerabilities which he will probably learn to avoid from now on. Yeah, he's a real quick study and rarely makes the same mistake twice (dude has been playing 40k for like less than a year and routinely trounces motherfuckers - he's also the brains of the outfit when we play MWO or Payday and Hearthstone or whatever), so I don't doubt that if we played this game again I'd get pantsed. His deployments are usually good, but this was an unusually open table. Mostly because I'm still in the process of building out terrain for it, but we wanted a break from the city fight table downstairs that we use all the time, and the only good purpose-built "put heavy weapons here" piece was on my side - he had his long fangs on the two-step hill in the top left, but they got blasted in my first round of shooting. He deployed entirely on one half of the table, and when he pulled the cavalry out of position to murder my bikes, they ended up too far away to support anything for the rest of the game. The combination of his corner deployment and low mobility (other than the cav) kinda hosed him over, and unfortunately for me, he knows it. If nothing else, I've got two more sheets of foam to work with, and a gigantic box of Mantic terrain to build out, so it should be less punishing on assaulty armies going forward.
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ANAmal.net posted:... Plus it made him kinda mad, probably, which rules but is why I stopped taking pictures - didn't want to seem like I was gloating (also I forgot). ... Catachan Beer guy and you make the best battle reports, you guys get it (I don't). I really need a bunch of beer before I remember to just shove models across the table and roll dice. Long Fangs are still a bit overpriced, as far as I know, but they're one of the few fire support options that Space Wolves have. Aren't the four buddies of the leader required to take heavy weapons? That was the worst part: a squad of 5 where all 5 are vital in some way, they were previously far worse since even heavy bolters were kinda pricey. As far as cracking open the Rhinos, he could have charged them so long as he could reach them. Decimated Longfangs and RIP Vindicator did mean he had few things to cover them, but it's a small board. Assaulting a transport full of shooty dudes is a hazardous plan, but be a Space Wolf and hope that hugemanatee ensues his next turn if the Dark Angels get pinned in their burning wreck.
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Is Bitz Barn a reliable source nowadays? It looks like they're the only place I can order the Hector Rex parts from, but I've never dealt with them before.
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BULBASAUR those look sick! Really love the subtlety you get with the oils.
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BULBASAUR: Models looking great as usual. The new camera is a huge improvement. What's your setup like?
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Apr 6, 2015 17:48
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 RECOVER MY GENE-SEED, BROTHER BROTHER, WAIT WHERE ARE YOU GOING
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TheChirurgeon posted:Those Iron Warriors are loving boss, dude. The better camera makes a huge difference in the coloring. Bulbasaur - Was it all the camera, or better lighting and post production? (I'm genuinely curious.) Also, what was your setup?
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BULBASAUR posted:http://www.powerfisted.com I also started a lovely blog - (lets face it, nobody wants to dig through 100 pages of BULBASAUR poo poo posts). As someone who has done exactly that, I welcome this new optimized method. Dr Hemulen fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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So, my second tournament is at the end of the month, and the points allowance has been dropped to 1250. Some things I took away from the last tournament were that army quality, balance, and sportsmanship are just as important to victory on the table, at least by this tournament's standard. With this in mind I want to try to make the most balanced list I can, while still being able to be competitive. Every game I lost was usually a result of not being able to get objectives in time, or being hosed by the tactical objectives deck. My collection is set to expand immensely due to a big Ebay purchase(which will likely involve no small amount of reselling, so if someone wants to snag some well painted Ultramarines, let me know @uroboros1985@hotmail.com, and I will let you know what extra I end up with). That being said here are my options, but keep in mind force balance, which specifically mentions using every force Org unit type at least once, and have a majority of my points going to troops choices: HQ options - Marneus Calgar(not allowed) Chief Librarian Tigurius 2x Regular Librarians Chaplain Chaplain w/ Jump Pack 2x Captains Chaplain Cassius Troops - 60+ Bolter Marines w/ any combination of special weapons needed, I will even have some Sergeants with special weapons such as powerfists. 10x Scouts - Half with Sniper Rifles, half with Bolters, and Scout Sergeant Telion Dedicated Transport Options 5x Drop Pods 8x Rhinos - 4 of which can become Razorbacks Elites 15x Terminators w/ 2 Assault cannons, 1 Cyclone Missile Launcher 5x Assault Terminators w/ 3 Hammers, 2 Claws 25x Sternguard 3x Assault Centurions(shared weapons with Devastator Centurions) 1x Dreadnaught w/ either Multi-Meta, Powerfist, Lascannon, or Missile Launcher 1x Contemptor Mortis (forgeworld barred from tournament) Fast Attack 10x Assault Marines w/ powerfist on sergeant 1x Stormtalon w/ either Lascannon or Skyhammers 4x Land Speeders w/ 2x Multi-Meltas, Typhoon Missile Launcher, and a Heavy Bolter/Assault Cannon combo. Heavy Support 1x Land Raider Redeemer or Crusader 3x Centurion Devastators 1x Tri-Las Predator 4x Lascannon Marines, 6x Missile Launcher Marines, 2 Plasma-Cannons, 2 Heavy Bolters, 1 Multi-Melta. 1x Stalker Misc Aegis Defense Line with Quadgun(unsure if this is allowed) Here is a list I came up with before my purchase pretty much doubled my current available points to nearly 6,000. HQ Chief Librarian Tigurius - 165 Elite 8x Sternguard w/ Rhino and Heavy Flamer - 236 Troops 10x Marines w/ Rhino and Flamer - 180 10x Marines w/ Rhino, Plasma-Gun, Combi-Gun - 200 10x Marines w/ Rhino, Multi-Melta, Melta-Gun, Combi-Gun - 205 Fast Attack StormTalon w/ Skyhammers - 125 Heavy Support Tri-Las Predator - 140 I realize I now have way more options for stream-lining this force. I feel like a punk bringing Tigiurius again, but I opted to drop the Cents, and was wondering how effective the Chief Librarian rolling around with Sternguard giving them rending attacks, ignore cover, rerolls, or overwatch at full BS would be. This list at least hits every slot, and puts the largest point expenditure in troops, and covers most threats. TheArmorOfContempt fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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AbusePuppy posted:Each individual squad within the Platoon is a separate unit and is treated completely separately (unless you choose to use the Combined Squads option with the Infantry Squads in the Platoon.) You don't have to keep them anywhere near each other if you don't want to; the fact that they are "associated" only has any meaning during army construction. Missed this earlier - thanks. So Combined Squads is where I'd combine all of the troops in a platoon into one giant mass?
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berzerkmonkey posted:Missed this earlier - thanks. So Combined Squads is where I'd combine all of the troops in a platoon into one giant mass? All the infantry squads. The platoon command squad, and heavy or special weapon teams are always separate units.
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Thanks for the kind words dudes. It’s been a labor of love. As an aside, I chose a specific god to ‘influence’ them, even though they’re marked as undivided, and sprinkled hints at who exactly throughout the models. Some dude on B&C already guessed correctly so apparently its less subtle than I thought. berzerkmonkey posted:Bulbasaur - Was it all the camera, or better lighting and post production? (I'm genuinely curious.) Also, what was your setup? It’s all camera and diffused lighting. I just imported them to photoshop and then made sure the white balance was correct and the temperature felt right. I’m using x3 150W daylight bulbs, two on each side bouncing off the back and a 3rd one bouncing off the top of a white lightbox. My desk is frosted black glass, which has been the best thing to stand them on. It bounces back just the right amount of light. I use a tripod and a really low ISO, so my exposure is ~1-2 seconds. It’s the only thing that’s worked for this particular paint scheme.
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Minis are cool and all, but I need to read these libertarian rants...
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36% done with rebasing my IG army. 64 models to go. May the emperor have mercy.
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DJ Dizzy posted:36% done with rebasing my IG army. 64 models to go. May the emperor have mercy. Ugh, I picked up some Agrellan Earth and I like it because it takes zero effort, but my attempts to kind of dry brush highlight the cracks turned out to look like poo poo... Kind of half the reason I was never keen on basing my guys was because I didn't want to end up with a bunch of mixed bases, when atleast the pure black makes them match, this is not the case now.
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DJ Dizzy posted:36% done with rebasing my IG army. 64 models to go. May the emperor have mercy. sounds fun
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BULBASAUR posted:Thanks for the kind words dudes. It’s been a labor of love. I think it's Nurgle. Rusty, green accessories, lots of skull with halo imagery like deathguard Loving your stuff dude.
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Uroboros posted:Ugh, I picked up some Agrellan Earth and I like it because it takes zero effort, but my attempts to kind of dry brush highlight the cracks turned out to look like poo poo... I've found a brown ink wash works quite well, and I'm using matt varnish to stop the Big bits coming loose All Very much WIP, but Red guys, just Agrellan Earth, Blue guys with a wash as well: 
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All the black and white makes me think it's something dumb like Malal.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:All the black and white makes me think it's something dumb like Malal.
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Renfield posted:I've found a brown ink wash works quite well, and I'm using matt varnish to stop the Big bits coming loose Those are some pretty cool looking better game models right there  (Except the malifaux models in the background. gently caress that game)
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