open24hours posted:

Get a medical certificate before your meeting.

thatfatkid posted:

Get a medical certificate and don't be intimidated by HR, stand up for yourself and argue your case. The meeting will probably be a 3 on 1 type thing so that they can try and intimidate you, be prepared for that. Don't be afraid to drop a few words like union or fairwork ombudsman.

Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

I've always found that it helps to angry up a bit when you need to defend yourself and you know you're in the right. Negotiations and these sorts of confrontations aren't about right and wrong, law and norm, they're about image, they're about power disparity. If you go in saying "Why was I summoned to this meeting when I woke up one morning and half my mouth was falling out? Would you rather I drag myself to work and bled all over company property - is that what the law dictates I do? And why did I receive an ominous and threatening call and then get pushed in front of 3 higher ups because I had a medical condition that directly stemmed from a medical procedure that I already notified you of and followed through by the book? I don't appreciate being bullied like this and made to feel unsafe in my own place of work." etc etc

Then if they do anything other than apologise start suggesting that obviously they believe there's an issue that needs to be resolved, you feel like you're being deliberately pushed onto the wrong foot and made to feel unwelcome, and these discussions would probably be much better suited for union reps and the ombudsman to resolve

Or just loving gut the little fishy slugs

Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

I've always found that it helps to angry up a bit when you need to defend yourself and you know you're in the right. Negotiations and these sorts of confrontations aren't about right and wrong, law and norm, they're about image, they're about power disparity. Don't go in feeling uncertain and trying to save your own skin, get outraged that they're trying to wedge you into a lovely spot for their own personal gain, say "Why was I summoned to this meeting when I woke up one morning and half my mouth was falling out? Would you rather I drag myself to work and bled all over company property - is that what the law dictates I do? And why did I receive an ominous and threatening call and then get pushed in front of 3 higher ups because I had a medical condition that directly stemmed from a medical procedure that I already notified you of and followed through by the book? I don't appreciate being bullied like this and made to feel unsafe in my own place of work." etc etc

Then if they do anything other than apologise start suggesting that obviously they believe there's an issue that needs to be resolved, you feel like you're being deliberately pushed onto the wrong foot and made to feel unwelcome, and these discussions would probably be much better suited for union reps and the ombudsman to resolve

Or just loving gut the little fishy slugs

Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

Say "can you take a minute to explain to me why the company didn't act like any reasonable, considerate company would, one that cared about its employees, and have said: 'oh I'm so sorry to hear there were complications from the invasive medical surgery you had last week, of which we were fully aware. Of course nobody would expect you to come in to work today when you're clearly not in a position to work, rest up and I hope you get better soon, please let us know how you're going' ? What was so difficult about that, which is the standard human response, and why did you feel the need to harass me and drag me into a meeting as though I had committed some horrible crime by suffering a medical complication?"

And then pull out your knife and jam it in the sawdust-packed repository where a human heart would ordinarily be

open24hours posted:

You have to post the ad.

Shadeoses posted:

Then vomit the blood you've been swallowing during the interview.

bowmore posted:

Knowing HR they would see that as a sign of weakness.

Shadeoses posted:

Then vomit the blood you've been swallowing during the interview.

norp posted:

http://m.canberratimes.com.au/comment/antipenalty-rates-campaign-backfires-20150406-1mfblu.html


Amazing, just simply amazing. I can't believe they thought this campaign was a good idea.

quote:

Bully tactics: Unionists bullies name and shame small business on Facebook for closing over Easter

UNIONISTS have orchestrated a bullying campaign against small business owners who are shutting up shop over the Easter long weekend ­because they cannot afford to pay their staff exorbitant public holiday penalty rates.

A Facebook page created to “name and shame” businesses that decided it was cheaper to close than pay teenage staff $350 a day just to clear away plates is posting photographs of operators who have publicly called for a change to the penalty rates regime.

Union supporters are urging people to swamp the social media sites of businesses that spoke about the impact of penalty rates to The Saturday Telegraph and other media this week and condemn them.

And yet nobody who has called for a change to penalty rates has asked for the scheme to be abolished, just modified.

“Head over to their page and let them know that you won’t spend a cent at a business lobbying against the workers,” the official post on Facebook stated.

A couple in Mudgee were attacked simply because they spoke to local media about being forced to close and lose precious business because they couldn’t afford to open.

“You can pop on over to their pages and let them know why penalty rates are so important, and why you won’t spend a cent at any business owned by someone who is actively lobbying to exploit their workers out of well-earned holiday pay,” the post read.

Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry chief executive Kate Carnell ­described the social media slurs as “intimidation tactics”.

“In recent days we’ve seen union activists incite their supporters to hurl digital abuse at business operators just for speaking up,” she said.

“Intimidation tactics like this are designed to silence businesses and shut down debate.”

Ms Carnell said all operators were open to paying the penalty rates, but believed the double-time-and-a-half rate was no longer in line with community expectations. Many staff were comfortable to work for a lower rate rather than have the day off, but could not as it was illegal to do so.

“Penalty rates are here to stay,” Ms Carnell said. “The debate is about whether the rates are in line with community expectations.”

ACTU president Ged Kearney accused businesses of “using the Easter break as justification to attack penalty rates by saying it’s unaffordable to hire more workers”.

“While the rest of us wind down for the Easter break, millions of Australian workers will give up their family time, and they should be compensated.”

Fruity Gordo posted:

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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

"I'm sorry if my words have upset you but I really do believe you are responsible for creating a hostile work environment that is entirely untenable and, moreover, was wholly unjustifi-" *spew chunks of blood on the table* "Excuse me, wholly unjustified. Was there anything else?"

open24hours posted:

Tarantula posted:

Hey guys I need a little advice, last week I had my wisdom teeth taken out I took the week off and told my boss all seemed well. When I brushed my teeth today I must have cut or damaged the blood clot or something and i've been spitting and crap all morning, I rang my boss on the only contact number I had (I was never given his work number or anything), then i get a call back and i'm told I have to have a meeting with HR tomorrow when I come in for possibly "abandoning work" or something like that, it seems like a bunch of crap to me because I thought I was doing the right thing by not turning up at work with a bloody mouth and contacting my boss with the only number i have. They also told me that if I will probably not be getting an extension on my contract. Did I actually do anything wrong?

open24hours posted:

You have to post the ad.

open24hours posted:

You have to post the ad.

Tarantula posted:

The more time I have to think on it the better I feel about it. Time to get me a transfer to use this for a transfer to a different location! HEP C FOR EVERYONE

open24hours posted:

You have to post the ad.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

And yet nobody who has called for a change to penalty rates has asked for the scheme to be abolished, just modified.

Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

I dont know what this means or what your work contract/situation is like but one thing to remember is that there is no base level of moral/social justice or righteousness in the world, and if you cant or dont stand up for yourself then your default position in the event of conflicting interests will always be that of 'victim'. Not saying you can win every battle or that you should turn every conflict of interest into a battle, but if you dont have the capacity or the will to stand up for yourself then start scaling down sharply your expectations from life.

If you do struggle with it then like I said, get angry. Fixate on it and hold on to the outrage because your brain will flood your body with hormones that do whatever the gently caress makes you want to punch poo poo, then point it at these idiots who were probably the very same people throwing cold chips at the back of your head at lunch if you squint your eyes just a little

Tokamak posted:

modify all those penalty rates away

freebooter posted:

I strongly encourage everybody to visit http://toobigtoignore.org.au and "Add Your Voice," as I just did, by sending them something along the lines of the concise message I just sent, which was "gently caress you, you greedy pieces of poo poo."

Tarantula posted:

The encouragement really helps, I dont see how thet can get far if I have a certificate for the surgery and today, the doctor I go to is good i'm sure he might write something extra on their for me.

freebooter posted:

I strongly encourage everybody to visit http://toobigtoignore.org.au and "Add Your Voice," as I just did, by sending them something along the lines of the concise message I just sent, which was "gently caress you, you greedy pieces of poo poo."

pisswhiskers posted:

gently caress off you greed filled gently caress nugget.
penalty rates are what separate us from working poverty America. unions worked hard to get a fair rate of pay and fair conditions, if you can't loving keep afloat while treating workers like actual worthwhile human beings maybe you should quit business and learn some ethics.