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ufarn
May 30, 2009

Quantum of Phallus posted:

For the love of God do not trust iCloud Photo Library , it's a piece of poo poo.
Aye, been my experience as well. Doing a local backup and using that to restore and take precautions seems the smartest.

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RhoA
Jul 20, 2014

What didn't you two like about it? I don't use a cloud storage service for storing photos, probably never will, but it did seem like a pretty decent solution for sharing photos between family members.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Sharing are two different things.

Photo management on iOS remains a joke, considering it's the most popular camera system on the Internet.

RhoA
Jul 20, 2014

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Sharing are two different things.

Photo management on iOS remains a joke, considering it's the most popular camera system on the Internet.

Ah okay, didn't realize they were different services, thanks for clearing that up. I definitely won't be using iCloud Photo Library then.

I agree that the photo management is an utter mess, but at least they brought back the camera roll after they decided that we wanted to look at our photos as collections.

RhoA fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Apr 6, 2015

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Photo management on iOS remains a joke, considering it's the most popular camera system on the Internet.

It's not a joke as long as you don't try to manage it on iOS. Seriously, don't even try. Photos on OSX is barebones but it's the only way to even try to manage the iCloud Photo Library.

I love iCloud Photo Library but that's 100% because I jumped on the Photos public beta to upload and manage my library on OSX. I would NOT recommend it until Photos is officially out or you jump in the beta.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I use bittorrent sync to send all my photos to my desktop computer and manage my stuff there.

Everything eventually ends up in Lightroom, which is overkill for jpegs but I use it with my DSLR output so it's nice to have everything in one library.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG
I use Dropbox via Carousel and every once in awhile, admittedly with less regularity and not as instantaneous as on Android, I will notice that my photos in Dropbox are up to date. It's not perfect, in Android I could snap a photo and watch it show up in my Dropbox 5 seconds afterwards, but it still does work.

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner
Yeah, photo management on iOS is terrible. I basically just use iCloud Photo Library to keep the photos I want to keep around on my phone, and the rest I'll just upload into iCloud Photo Sharing albums and delete from my library. Not optimal (and I don't think it saves them full-quality?) but it's better than staring at a camera roll of potentially thousands of photos that you can't really organize.

The upside to iCloud Photo Library though is it resizes the files on your phone so you don't use as much space, which is a godsend if you're a shutterbug like me and only have a 16gb phone.

Here's hoping the Windows iCloud app eventually gets support for Photo Library since having to log onto the iCloud site to actually download them is a pain in the rear end.

Rnr
Sep 5, 2003

some sort of irredeemable trash person
iCloud Photo Library works okay for me. Also for my parents, who are now running OSX beta (without knowing or caring what that is) in order to use Photos with iPL. They just want to take photos on any of their devices and have them appear on the others, import fotos from a camera on the macbook and view them on the iPad, etc etc. With this they don't have to do anything themselves, make any decisions and they can view their photos from 2005 on any device (yes, they do this...).
It's not bug free yet, but definitely usable.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

The huge problem with iCloud library is you can't locally delete photos from whatever device you took them on. So if I take a picture on my 5S, I can't delete it or else it'll disappear from my library completely. I know there's supposedly a "store optimised files on this device" setting but it's been very buggy for me so far. It's actually shocking how long it's taking Apple to sort this out. So much easier on Android

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
They should've just copied Dropbox's iOS implementation - backs up everything to Dropbox and there's a nice app that sorts photos by album and location.

Rnr
Sep 5, 2003

some sort of irredeemable trash person
Device optimization works okay across the 4-5 devices I've tried it on. Without it iCloud library is worthless.
Pictures are already sorted by location and time in photos and on ios. Click the gray location label above photo groups to see the locations on a map. Nice for finding pics from a holiday in Paris in 2014 for instance.
Dropbox and onedrive don't come close as I see it.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

The fact that you can't just take the photos from your phone and stick them on your Mac and have them still be in iCloud is ridiculous.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Quantum of Phallus posted:

The fact that you can't just take the photos from your phone and stick them on your Mac and have them still be in iCloud is ridiculous.

You can but the process is clunky.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

What, like, extract them from the Photo library file and then re-add them to Photos?

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Quantum of Phallus posted:

What, like, extract them from the Photo library file and then re-add them to Photos?

Use the Image Capture app, manually move them to your computer, and then import those files to Photos.

It sucks, I know, and I really hope they make it work they way we all want it to.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Got a weird question for you all.

My father passed away a couple weeks ago, and had an iPhone 4S running at least 8.0 on it at the time. He had a passcode on the phone, and my mother would like to get into the phone to get his pictures and other things. I've already spoken with Apple, who said they were unable to remove the code without restoring the phone, and he wasn't the sort to sync his phone to his computer much, if at all.

Would there be a way to remove the passcode through iTunes if I plugged it in to his computer? Or even another way to just break into it?

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Plug it into a computer that the phone trusts (previously plugged in and entered passcode) and you should be able to take a backup or browse the contents of it.

Vanellope
Mar 26, 2015

I've just got pixlexia, okay?

Quantum of Phallus posted:

The fact that you can't just take the photos from your phone and stick them on your Mac and have them still be in iCloud is ridiculous.

Yeah it really sucks. I just don't understand why it's like that. Like why can't I delete the photos off my phone and just have them be in iCloud? I don't need 6000+ photos on my phone. It's not even a storage thing, it's just such a mess and it makes it hard to find stuff.

Photo management in iOS is just really bad. Why does everything end up in my camera roll? Downloaded images, screenshots, wallpapers, everything... then it all gets backed up with my photos. Why? I just don't understand the logic behind it. Why can't there be a separate folder for screenshots, downloaded images, and so on?

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

iPhone passcode

My condolences, I'm real sorry. Hopefully he plugged it into a computer at least once while he's had the phone.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


It may be because I'm tired as hell but I just said "Thanks, Siri" in response to it giving me an address. I think I'm going mad :saddowns:

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

My father passed away a couple weeks ago, and had an iPhone 4S running at least 8.0 on it at the time.
Would there be a way to remove the passcode through iTunes if I plugged it in to his computer? Or even another way to just break into it?

This exact scenario happened to me a year and a half ago. My father-in-law passed away and we could never get into his phone or back up. Unless you have the password you will never get into it, sorry.

Lawen
Aug 7, 2000

Ciaphas posted:

It may be because I'm tired as hell but I just said "Thanks, Siri" in response to it giving me an address. I think I'm going mad :saddowns:

I do this all the time. My wife mocks me for it but it just feels impolite not to thank Siri when she does something for me.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

hotsauce posted:

This exact scenario happened to me a year and a half ago. My father-in-law passed away and we could never get into his phone or back up. Unless you have the password you will never get into it, sorry.

Yeah, that's what it sounds like. I called the Apple Support line, and even with a Death Certificate the only way they'll do it is with a court order.

Sucks. :(

The next time I'm at their house I'll plug it in to his computer to try it, but it's probably hopeless.

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
If you're absolutely determined there are robots you can hook it up to to brute force it.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Doesn't help now, but make it a lesson for those of us still alive to consider putting passwords and account info in a will if there's anything on your computers that you want family to be able to recover if you keel over.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

fleshweasel posted:

If you're absolutely determined there are robots you can hook it up to to brute force it.

I don't have it on me now, but I'm going to see if I can see what version of iOS is on there and try the youtube tricks for bypassing the code. If nothing else I can get in there, imessage the pictures out and consider it done.

that's really all I can think of left that I can try

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster

Ciaphas posted:

It may be because I'm tired as hell but I just said "Thanks, Siri" in response to it giving me an address. I think I'm going mad :saddowns:

How could you not thank Siri she's nice as hell

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot
I changed Siri's voice to a man and I think it's nicer now.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

Michael Scott posted:

I'm going to guess highly secure computer network operations. Like a bank's data center or something?

You can't even bring phones and poo poo into Amazon warehouses.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Michael Scott posted:

I changed Siri's voice to a man and I think it's nicer now.

Chick Siri's Australian accent is hideous. Dude Siri all the way.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Siri is nicer than Alexa, at least.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I want the old dectalk (aka stephen hawking) voice. :colbert:

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

iOS 8.3 is out.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001


With culturally diverse emoji!

Snuffman
May 21, 2004


I think that's the longest fix list I've ever seen for an iOS update. Not to say Apple doesn't fix a lot of things with each update, it just feels odd them actually telling us what specific things they fixed.

Usually it's just "bugs and performance fixes" but that's an itemized list. :stare:

Vintimus Prime
Apr 24, 2008

DERRRRRPPP what are picture threads for????

Snuffman posted:

I think that's the longest fix list I've ever seen for an iOS update. Not to say Apple doesn't fix a lot of things with each update, it just feels odd them actually telling us what specific things they fixed.

Usually it's just "bugs and performance fixes" but that's an itemized list. :stare:

Apple did some major work on 8.3. Thank goodness. Hopefully the rumors that iOS 9 will be Snow Leopard like (light on new features, more on refinement and bug fixes) prove to be true.

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner
I really hope it fixes Wifi performance, I will randomly have a bitch of a time doing anything on Wifi at home. Eventually it'll fix itself but restarting my phone/router doesn't seem to help.

bronin
Oct 15, 2009

use it or throw it away
Installing iOS 8.3 right now. Hope 3rd party keyboards got fixed.

Edit: the bug where the cursor jumps around when adding a new contact seems gone. Will have to wait and see if the spotlight search bug still shows up.

bronin fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Apr 8, 2015

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Please let me know if third party keyboards work correctly. I am itching to go back to swiftkey.

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