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icantfindaname posted:I'm not actually sure the caricature of a white antebellum plantation owner would register as negative for many southern conservatives ofc it doesnt. Why do you think so many white people get married at plantations?
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nutranurse posted:ofc it doesnt. Why do you think so many white people get married at plantations? Too cheap for a destination wedding?
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My Imaginary GF posted:Too cheap for a destination wedding? It's more that the destination they've chosen is the past.
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Are we talking consensual weddings between people with different shapes of junk here, or are we talking poor terrified Christians being forced to marry gays against their will, because I have heard that the gaystapo is going to force their marriage agenda on us all!
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Chantilly Say posted:It's more that the destination they've chosen is the past. The past is a foreign country.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Salmon fishermen are probably communists anyway. lmao no
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ErIog posted:Gee, I wonder which part of the campaign you're responsible for. You're one of the guys that goes door-to-door, right? You should have more faith in the worth of your job. He's from the north shore, his daddy got him a job.
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god I love my state. Moronic ultraconservative Hal Heiner currently leading GoP primary polling for KY governorship. I applaud this, as he is the candidate least equipped to upset the eventual Democratic nominee.
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PupsOfWar posted:god I love my state. Careful what you wish for, lest you end up with Joe Walsh: southern edition.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Careful what you wish for, lest you end up with Joe Walsh: southern edition. I don't mean heiner can't win because he is too extreme, I mean he can't win because he is, through some cosmic happenstance, uniquely poorly-placed among the GoP field to attack Democratic weaknesses. Dems' presumptive nominee, attorney general Jack Conway, is a slick biglaw type from Louisville. State GoP has been banking on overcoming democratic institutional momentum and fiscal advantage by exploiting cultural resentments. Their establishment candidate, agriculture comissioner jim comer, is ideal for this, being a big corn-fed farm dude from the rural hinterlands. Heiner, though, is a fatcat Louisville financier. How can you attack your opponent for being a Louisville fatcat if you are yourself a Louisville fatcat? He's Joe Walsh only if Joe Walsh were a texan cowboy who would ride up and spit sunflower seeds at collar county suburbanites' dogs. Heiner is also more effete than Conway, meaning that he will have a harder time taking advantage should people discover (or start to suspect) that Conway is a secret gay, as the commonwealth law-office rumor mill suggests. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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PupsOfWar posted:Heiner, though, is a fatcat Louisville financier. It's pretty easy when you have no morals and your opponent lacks enough of a spine to call you out on it. Even if you do get called out on it, your rabid conservative base has to care enough to sit home and ignore the drum-beating the most conservative person will do.
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PupsOfWar posted:Heiner, though, is a fatcat Louisville financier. Because Conway is the Louville Fatcat, and brother, Louisville only got room for one fatcat. Besides, a vote for Conway is a vote for the Obama-Clinton agenda. You overestimate the impact of hypocracy upon voting. Far more important is party identification and money.
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PupsOfWar posted:How can you attack your opponent for being a Louisville fatcat if you are yourself a Louisville fatcat? Say they voted for Obama. EDIT: In actual news, Kansas effectively banned all abortions after 12-14 weeks today. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:You overestimate the impact of hypocracy upon voting. Far more important is party identification and money. You underestimate the importance of civility/respectability politics in the midsouth. you can win a statewide with a couple hundred grand and maybe a third of voters are registered with the party they will reliably vote for. Turnout's pretty stagnant (low), no real electioneering machinery. "Candidate who spends the most wins the most" is not nearly as reliable an axiom as it is in bigger, wealthier states. Still a trend, sure, but not by the same margins. The key here is not to fill the airwaves with messaging and plausibly-deniable attack ads, but to generate vaguely adequate name-recognition without bothering anybody or seeming like you really want to win. Push too hard, people figure you're hifalutin' and you lose. Conway hopefully learned this lesson from the severe backfiring of his anti-Rand campaign in '10. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Say they voted for Obama. How long until this is ruled unconstitutional? There's no way any court would uphold this, right?
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icantfindaname posted:I'm not actually sure the caricature of a white antebellum plantation owner would register as negative for many southern conservatives
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Old James posted:White SC cop video taped shooting a fleeing suspect in the back. Claims self-defense, being charged with murder. Is there any thread talking about this? Because, Jesus, this is hosed up.
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mastervj posted:Is there any thread talking about this? Because, Jesus, this is hosed up. Criminal Justice thread here
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Hello USPol, I have a question that might seem a bit odd, but I couldn't think of a better place to ask it, as goons basically know everything. How does a foreign national (In this case me, a Brit) send a letter to an ex-President? I mean literally, where do I send it? Also how do you address them? Mr ex-President? Mr Surname? I don't want to get droned y'know.
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You address them as Mr. Surname. For the address on the envelope, you would use The Honorable <full name>. There's a list of mailing addresses here.
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PupsOfWar posted:I don't mean heiner can't win because he is too extreme, I mean he can't win because he is, through some cosmic happenstance, uniquely poorly-placed among the GoP field to attack Democratic weaknesses. Doesn't help that the typical democratic response to Jack Conway is "ugh". At least he's not Lunsford. Maybe Democrats should head off the gay thing by running Jim Gray.
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Theris posted:You address them as Mr. Surname. For the address on the envelope, you would use The Honorable <full name>. That's brilliant, thank you very much.
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computer parts posted:This sounds like it only focuses on Republican primary elections. Not a whole lot happened in the Dem primary in 2012.
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Sir Tonk posted:Not a whole lot happened in the Dem primary in 2012. Even some General Election stuff would be interesting though. "Generic Republican wins out over Tea Partier" could be the Thad Cochran effect as much as anything else.
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Pork Pie Hat posted:Hello USPol, I have a question that might seem a bit odd, but I couldn't think of a better place to ask it, as goons basically know everything. Who are you writing to and what about, might I ask?
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Quote of the morning, “It would be something more along the lines of what President Clinton did in December 1998 during Operation Desert Fox. Several days air and naval bombing against Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction facilities for exactly the same kind of behavior. For interfering with weapons inspectors and for disobeying Security Council resolutions. All we’re asking is that the president simply be as tough as in the protection of America’s national security interest as Bill Clinton was.” ~ Tom Cotton
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Chamale posted:Who are you writing to and what about, might I ask? Sure, I saw today that Bush Jnr. and I share a birthday, and while we're so far apart on the political spectrum you probably can't even measure it, I saw a documentary on the BBC about him on the campaign trail a few years ago and he seemed a really charming, nice guy, in his own way. Now he's not in charge anymore and just doing his paintings I thought I'd send him a birthday card and  so he could get some beers on me for his birthday.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the morning, “It would be something more along the lines of what President Clinton did in December 1998 during Operation Desert Fox. Several days air and naval bombing against Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction facilities for exactly the same kind of behavior. For interfering with weapons inspectors and for disobeying Security Council resolutions. All we’re asking is that the president simply be as tough as in the protection of America’s national security interest as Bill Clinton was.” ~ Tom Cotton So...Tom Cotton wants us to bomb Iraq again? Is that what I'm supposed to take away from this? Because if he's talking about us carpet-bombing Iran, this is even more laughably stupid than that idiotic letter he and the rest of those assholes wrote to their leaders. It never ceases to amuse me how the right thinks that we worship at the altar of Bill Clinton they way they do Ronald Reagan.
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Pork Pie Hat posted:I thought I'd send him a birthday card and He's rather infamous for being sober for 28 years now, just FYI.
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Joementum posted:He's rather infamous for being sober for 28 years now, just FYI. Ah balls, I forgot that. Oh well, he can buy some cake or something.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the morning, “It would be something more along the lines of what President Clinton did in December 1998 during Operation Desert Fox. Several days air and naval bombing against Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction facilities for exactly the same kind of behavior. For interfering with weapons inspectors and for disobeying Security Council resolutions. All we’re asking is that the president simply be as tough as in the protection of America’s national security interest as Bill Clinton was.” ~ Tom Cotton But according to Republicans that didn't work at all and Iraq was on the verge of creating nukes and synthesizing chemical and biological weapons. I know that the whole point is to just give war a chance, but don't you have to at least pretend you learned something from last time?
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^^^^Repiblicans would eventually claim that it didn't work, at the time they seriously criticized Clinton for doing it to distract from whatever scandals. Also Iran hasn't yet violated the terms of their agreement or kicked out inspectors. Tom Cotton seems to have a particular talent for packing a whole lot of stupid into relatively few words. Theris fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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Pork Pie Hat posted:Ah balls, I forgot that. Oh well, he can buy some cake or something. drat I was hoping you were aiming for a relapse. Mr. President, we all float down here  .
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Fried Chicken posted:any word on Ward 2 out of Ferguson yet? I'm interested to see how that race shakes out The I <3 Ferguson guy won. Two black candidates won other races. quote:For the first time in Ferguson’s 120-year history, the City Council will have three African-American members, but even so, Tuesday’s election was less than a clear victory for the throngs of volunteers who poured into the city in a last-minute push to sway voters.
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Gravel Gravy posted:drat I was hoping you were aiming for a relapse. Mr. President, we all float down here Oh I'm open to that outcome too. I need something eye-catching on my CV after all.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the morning, “It would be something more along the lines of what President Clinton did in December 1998 during Operation Desert Fox. Several days air and naval bombing against Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction facilities for exactly the same kind of behavior. For interfering with weapons inspectors and for disobeying Security Council resolutions. All we’re asking is that the president simply be as tough as in the protection of America’s national security interest as Bill Clinton was.” ~ Tom Cotton I'm reminded of Krauthammer's "what harm would bombing do?" suggestion for handling Iran. Joementum posted:He's rather infamous for being sober for 28 years now, just FYI. Well, public persona at least. I have a buddy who was a WH marine guard there, he had some stories about the stuff that goes on there, and I have no reason to doubt him. Among them was that Bush would from time to time come down to the station for them with beer to drink and bullshit, that in private he was a blast to be around. Also Rumsfeld apparently has horrible breath. Like "just ate a plate of poo poo" horrible. Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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mastervj posted:Is there any thread talking about this? Because, Jesus, this is hosed up. Cop is being charged with murder. I don't see anything wrong with this picture - the justice system is working as designed.
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