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 https://www.comixology.com/Convergence-Week-1-Sale/page/6095?ref=c2l0ZS9pbmRleC9kZXNrdG9wL2xhcmdlQ2Fyb3VzZWw All-New Atom is good, right? e: Speaking of.. Convergence: Atom preview: http://nerdist.com/exclusive-dc-comics-convergence-the-atom-1-preview/ Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:
Yes. Lots of talent involved including G.Morrison, Gail Simone, and Rick Remender.
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Apr 7, 2015 08:36
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I'm guessing that the voice in Ray's head is Ryan, having undergone some kind of Firestorm Fusion.
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Apr 7, 2015 09:06
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Teenage Fansub posted:
Bahaha Cry for Justice. Didn't the writer end up defending that book after a being attacked by internet trolls?
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Apr 7, 2015 16:33
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Madkal posted:Bahaha Cry for Justice. Didn't the writer end up defending that book after a being attacked by internet trolls?
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Apr 7, 2015 16:42
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Everyone should read Cry for Justice just so DC's output doesn't seem *that* bad. But do it in a way that doesn't involve giving DC money and encouraging them. Like, read it at a Borders or something.
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Apr 7, 2015 17:10
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Endless Mike posted:at a Borders Uh....
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Apr 7, 2015 17:48
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Probably Magic posted:Uh.... I DID SAY "OR SOMETHING"
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Apr 7, 2015 18:20
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 Cry for Justice/Rise of Arsenal are the best comedy books DC has ever published
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Apr 7, 2015 20:34
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Convergence: Superman preview: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2015/04/07/convergence-superman-exclusive-preview/25403141/ I'm getting this one. It looks great.      Apart from Jimmy's "that ROCKS it" line, it even reads fine. e: It's the same artist from Dan Jurgen's Futures End Superman, which also looked incredible. Dunno why they're such bros, but I'll take it! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 20:43
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Wow I'm sorry but that looks dumb as poo poo. Why is Superman running around dressed like a ninja fighting people hand to hand? WHY DOES HE HAVE HIS FULL CAPE AND COSTUME UNDER A NINJA SUIT? Did I miss something where he changed places with the guy or something?
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Apr 7, 2015 20:46
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Senor Candle posted:Wow I'm sorry but that looks dumb as poo poo. Why is Superman running around dressed like a ninja fighting people hand to hand? WHY DOES HE HAVE HIS FULL CAPE AND COSTUME UNDER A NINJA SUIT? Did I miss something where he changed places with the guy or something? It will presumably be explained in the book? Also "Superman disguises himself as someone else" is a pretty age-old concept.
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Apr 7, 2015 20:48
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ImpAtom posted:It will presumably be explained in the book? True, it does say in the beginning that he hasn't been invulnerable in like a year? I still want to know why he is wearing his full costumer + cape under that other uniform
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Senor Candle posted:Wow I'm sorry but that looks dumb as poo poo. Why is Superman running around dressed like a ninja fighting people hand to hand? WHY DOES HE HAVE HIS FULL CAPE AND COSTUME UNDER A NINJA SUIT? Did I miss something where he changed places with the guy or something? I think that and the Atom preview both answer pretty well that apparently people under the domes lose their powers... Except until they have to have a one-shot based around them, at which point they get their powers back. As for the full costume thing... I guess Superman does it because it makes him feel better?
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Haha. He looked so cool busting out that I didn't think to think about that. Suspension of disbelief is real. Senor Candle posted:Did I miss something The near-century of Superman somehow fitting a cape under his clothes. e: Here's a useless quirk that was in Convergence #0 http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04/07/converging-the-double-page-spreads-of-convergence-0/ Okay then! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 20:54
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Senor Candle posted:True, it does say in the beginning that he hasn't been invulnerable in like a year? I still want to know why he is wearing his full costumer + cape under that other uniform Superman wears his full costume under clothing regularly. Even while depowered (which happens a lot!)
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Am I just not "getting" this Convergence stuff or are these comics really just kinda weird and offputting for some reason? Of the three previews posted so far, I don't think a single one has really excited me.Teenage Fansub posted:All-New Atom is good, right?
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BrianWilly posted:Am I just not "getting" this Convergence stuff or are these comics really just kinda weird and offputting for some reason? Of the three previews posted so far, I don't think a single one has really excited me. There've been seven posted. You might've missed Question. Teenage Fansub posted:http://www.avclub.com/article/exclusive-dc-preview-rucka-and-montoya-reunite-con-217492 Or still not care? I'm very, very excited  I think they all look pretty naff, apart from that and now Superman (E: maybe Nightwing since we didn't really see anything.) I didn't even bother to post Harley Quinn and Titans. Counting on fourth week's Shazam to make it all worth it! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 21:40
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I did miss that.  And that looks incredible.
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Apr 7, 2015 21:51
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BrianWilly posted:Am I just not "getting" this Convergence stuff or are these comics really just kinda weird and offputting for some reason? Of the three previews posted so far, I don't think a single one has really excited me. I'm kind of with you. I don't know why, but for some reason I was under the illusion that this whole thing would be sort of visiting all these old universes... like, the whole universe. Instead it seems to be "here's a weird scenario inside bottled Pre-Crisis Gotham or whatever". And I guess that makes sense in the overall grand story that Convergence is supposed to be but like I said, I just got myself overly excited to read more issues of Pre-Flashpoint comics.
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No it's not really what I was expecting. It's like they don't want anybody to be able to imagine their favorite continuities just going along as they were before. All the stories seem to be pretty heavily focused on how Brainiac sticking their worlds into jars has affected their day to day.
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ImpAtom posted:Superman wears his full costume under clothing regularly. Even while depowered (which happens a lot!) It's probably habit by now, like mormon underwear.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Convergence: Superman preview: Is it just me but it's awesome to see him older married to Lois and not wearing segmented armor while on fire?  I missed this version of Superman.
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I'm afraid he'll be woken up on the next page by Perry White and had just been daydreaming that he got his power back. I shouldn't fear the inevitable.
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Also, if I remember right, that mini has Superman and Lois in Gotham. So dressing like a ninja for your vigilante-ing is pretty par for the course there. Plus it's very in-character for Clark to keep trying to help people even with no powers, and weirdly lets this build off the similar point made in the last issue of the main-line book.
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KaosMachina posted:"We truly are at the FUTURE'S END." TwoPair posted:"All the power's gone out, guess we'll have to go back to lighting GOTHAM BY GASLIGHT"  Also,  If every issue has a dumb pun for a title, I'll be happy with this event. e: Jiro posted:Since DC really does have a hard on for cities named Gotham I'm not really surprised most of them in this clusterfuck are a Gotham of some kind really.  The Superman issue is pretty great. Turns out I have some weird affection for the Flashpoint characters I never knew I had. Question was good. I don't think I've read anything between Renee and Two-Face. I should probably start Gotham Central, finally. Nightwing+Oracle was okay. Real Gail-ey. I liked the parts about the infrastructure and food situation of trapped Gotham. The Atom one is crazy nuts bad, but at least it was nutty. Batman and Robin was absolutely nothing. The main really is more Earth 2, though the domes only came down on the last page. I enjoyed my time till I read B&R. Someone buy Batgirl and let us know if she gets to pee. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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Gaz-L posted:Also, if I remember right, that mini has Superman and Lois in Gotham. So dressing like a ninja for your vigilante-ing is pretty par for the course there. Plus it's very in-character for Clark to keep trying to help people even with no powers, and weirdly lets this build off the similar point made in the last issue of the main-line book. Since DC really does have a hard on for cities named Gotham I'm not really surprised most of them in this clusterfuck are a Gotham of some kind really. Would have been nice to have an Atlantis, or Central City, or whatever city the Teen Titans kept getting killed in, a domed Legion of Doom swamp with hideout, Smallville, that land that exists in the center of the earth with that astronaut or something where he goes all Frank Frazzeta and has smokin hot barbarian babes while fighting off lizard men and magic. poo poo Bizzaro Gotham would be interesting as the happiest most sane place in known existence.
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Teenage Fansub posted:I should probably start Gotham Central, finally. Spend all the money you're spending on this on that instead.
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Apr 8, 2015 12:39
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vegetables posted:Spend all the money you're spending on this on that instead. It's waitin' for me :) 
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Apr 8, 2015 12:58
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Question seems to be building more off the beginnings of their dealings in No-Man's Land. Harvey and Renee help a bunch of the regular folks in Gotham, aided by the fact that Harv's coin is being unusually consistent in landing good side up. There's a good moment where she manages to convince him to help regardless of what the coin says, which is what kinda leads into the Central story. Which is good, but pretty dark.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Someone buy Batgirl and let us know if she gets to pee. She does not. I didn't really like it. There's some stuff I like, like an extended part where Cass and Steph are living together. But then there's a scene where Cass threatens to eat their pet hamster unless Steph beats her in a fight. Basically, Cass's characterization is what I'd expect from someone who admitted to reading one issue about her before writing the book.
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Is it better or worse than those issues where Cass turned evil?
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Much better. I'm a huge fan of Cass and the issue seemed fine to me. Even the part about eating the Hamster makes perfect sense in context. (After Gotham get's cut off by the dome, one of the only sources of meat are from growing pets like Hamsters.) Stephanie is against it because she has a bound with the Hamster. Cassandra sees it in pragmatic terms that you farm animals. I really enjoyed it. And it also continues the trend of Stephanie having far more chemistry with Cassandra then she does with Tim Drake.
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Darth Nat posted:She does not. Wait, what? Still, I think that's still one issue more than Adam Beechen, I think.
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The issue she read, by the way, was the Red Robin one with Cass pretending to kill Tim. Not exactly the best issue to use, though Cass' characterization in it wasn't bad. Anyways I got Question and Justice League and was happy with both. I talked to some friends who got the others and the consensus seems to be that the majority of all the books are just straight set-ups for the second issue. They tease, but don't do much past that. Question I think worked because it didn't tease much, it was just a solid issue about Renee and Harvey and the teasing comes at the tail end. Justice League, likewise, established their set-up toward the end and left the first two-thirds as character interaction.
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Teenage Fansub posted:
That just gives me flashbacks to DC's terrible habit of putting dumb puns on their covers, ruining them. 
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So yeah, I've read all Convergence titles and I can't help but be a bit disappointed in all this weird desert thunderdome stuff, but frankly it may just be a lot of my expectations being too high. 'Cuz, I mean, most of the books were totally fine and nothing actually jumps out as being bad per se (some of the art, perhaps), and there are even several enjoyable moments. The whole thing is...honestly, pretty standard comics. Normal. Ordinary. And maybe that's part of the problem because this really deserved to be more than just a less inept "Countdown: Arena." But what can you do. The books that fare the best are probably (and, mostly unsurprisingly) the Question, Superman, and Nightwing/Oracle books. Turns out that having experienced writers tackle characters they've shown good rapport with will get you better books than just saddling a bunch of writers you've never heard of with a bunch of characters they've never heard of. Who knew! BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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I was on the fence about Nightwing/Oracle until the last panel of the book.
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BrianWilly posted:So yeah, I've read all Convergence titles and I can't help but be a bit disappointed in all this weird desert thunderdome stuff, but frankly it may just be a lot of my expectations being too high . Found the problem right there. Also can the Flashpoint universe just go die in a hole somewhere? That's what we have the Earth 2 universe with all the angst and gnashing teeth for now apparently.. Also Issue 1 of Convergence somehow manages to be worse than issue 0.
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