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Serperoth posted:No, Ken definitely wanted to put Pwnage in a set. No, I mean Richard. Maro mentions it here but I'm sure there's another article where he describes some of the cards
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Barry Shitpeas posted:No, I mean Richard. Maro mentions it here but I'm sure there's another article where he describes some of the cards Oh yeah, I had no idea about Richard. I'm way behind on Drive to Work too, but it doesn't surprise me. It's the kind of mechanic that 'feels' Early Magic-y, like Ante was mentioned.
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Apr 8, 2015 14:54
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What was pwnage again? Something like taking an opponent's card and shuffling it into your deck? Maybe that works in the mid-90s but not anymore if for no other reason than sleeves. Count Bleck posted:I played Gamble recently and it discarded the card I fetched for: Krenko. I'm not bitter. I saw a Krenko dude do this two games in a row in an EDH tourney a while back, tutoring then pitching the card he needed to go infinite both times (Staff of Domination). Felt bad but I was in his pod for both games so sucks for you dawg.
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Apr 8, 2015 14:57
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Count Bleck posted:I played Gamble recently and it discarded the card I fetched for: Krenko. I'm not bitter. I thought the only deck that played Gamble was like Lands that doesn't care about discarding the card they just tutored for. It's terrible otherwise.
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Apr 8, 2015 14:58
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mcmagic posted:I thought the only deck that played Gamble was like Lands that doesn't care about discarding a card... Turns out that when you're mono red in EDH, you'll take literally anything.
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Apr 8, 2015 14:59
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I find Maro's voice too grating to listen to the podcast. I used to read the transcripts when there was like one a week but then he took it up to 11; I feel bad for the woman doing the transcripts now.
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Apr 8, 2015 14:59
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Hmmm, 665 comments on a ChannelFireball article about getting women into gaming, bet this isn't a shitshow or anything
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C-Euro posted:What was pwnage again? Something like taking an opponent's card and shuffling it into your deck? Maybe that works in the mid-90s but not anymore if for no other reason than sleeves. Trying to remember what Maro said, but in the "2008" podcast he said Richard showed up with a self-made deck with a new mechanic where you have cards in your deck that you can play to shuffle them into your opponents deck, essentially giving them a blank draw. So I screwed up: Garfield's mechanic is kind of like reverse pwnage.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:23
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GoutPatrol posted:Trying to remember what Maro said, but in the "2008" podcast he said Richard showed up with a self-made deck with a new mechanic where you have cards in your deck that you can play to shuffle them into your opponents deck, essentially giving them a blank draw. So I screwed up: Garfield's mechanic is kind of like reverse pwnage. So, like the curse or ruin cards in Dominion? Interesting, I wonder how that would work in Magic, that's an awesome idea.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:27
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GoutPatrol posted:Does anyone else listen to Mark Rosewater's podcast? In one this week's podcasts, he has a pretty interesting story. And yet people still respect him as a game designer. You'd think with all the rules technology being developed from board games.... forbidden lesbian posted:Hmmm, 665 comments on a ChannelFireball article about getting women into gaming, bet this isn't a shitshow or anything Thanks for the meaty grogs.txt goldmine. 
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Madmarker posted:So, like the curse or ruin cards in Dominion? Poorly; people forget to grab their auras frequently enough after a game, they're not going to remember that you shuffled a card into their deck 6 turns ago. Also sleeve color and all that.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:32
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To be clear, the gist of the article is stop being weird about girls please, and one of the first comments I saw was about how women aren't playing games because they don't like analyzing stuff or playing ultra competitive games
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Apr 8, 2015 15:33
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Elyv posted:Poorly; people forget to grab their auras frequently enough after a game, they're not going to remember that you shuffled a card into their deck 6 turns ago. Also sleeve color and all that. OH, I mean I understand logistically it would never work. But from a pure gameplay perspective it seems awesome to me.
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forbidden lesbian posted:Hmmm, 665 comments on a ChannelFireball article about getting women into gaming, bet this isn't a shitshow or anything I can only imagine the backlash from the Magic community to such offensive advice as: Don't be an rear end in a top hat, don't smell like one, and brush your teeth.
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Elyv posted:Poorly; people forget to grab their auras frequently enough after a game, they're not going to remember that you shuffled a card into their deck 6 turns ago. Also sleeve color and all that. This is actually why I just turn cards affected by o-ring upside down instead of placing them on the opponent's side of the table. This is also a great example of the difference between games where each player brings their own materials and a shared, enclosed game like Dominion.
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forbidden lesbian posted:To be clear, the gist of the article is stop being weird about girls please, and one of the first comments I saw was about how women aren't playing games because they don't like analyzing stuff or playing ultra competitive games I really hate magic players sometimes. I love the game, but gently caress if the a good portion of the playerbase isnt the most spoiled, misogynistic, gamergating, MRA babies this side of a PUA subreddit.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:39
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Madmarker posted:I really hate magic players sometimes. I love the game, but gently caress if the a good portion of the playerbase isnt the most spoiled, misogynistic, gamergating, MRA babies this side of a PUA subreddit. And as bad as Magic players can be, this isn't even close to the worst TCG community.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:41
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Eddie Whitson posted:And as bad as Magic players can be, this isn't even close to the worst TCG community. That's a dangerously high bar you're setting there. Anyway, I don't see much reason to comment on the comments of the article, I already make sure to act like a decent person if I'm out playing Magic and occasionally give others the shove to do the same.
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Madmarker posted:OH, I mean I understand logistically it would never work. But from a pure gameplay perspective it seems awesome to me. Still not really. Cursers is really powerful in Dominion because you're going to see the same curse at least 5 or 6 times over the course of the game and Dominion is a hugely dependent on critical mass, whether that's having $8 in your hand so you can buy a province when you're playing a Big Money style of deck or having enough synergistic actions in an action chain deck. In either case, having a curse in your hand instead of a useful card can make a huge difference. On the other hand, in Magic, you don't even see most of the cards in your deck, so most likely you won't see the garbage. It's basically reverse deck thinning. As an aside, iirc Booby Trap was originally supposed to shuffle into an opponent's deck and that was the first time that mechanic was nixed because logistics.
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Reminder that you can take basically any similar article about any other game/hobby/profession/whatever and you will find similar comments. People are dumb.
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Apr 8, 2015 15:47
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That and arguably the curse mechanic from Dominion wasn't fun to begin with. I've played the game a few times and while I was never a huge fan, things got even worse when it came to curses. It's a pretty obnoxious way to interact with others.
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Elyv posted:Still not really. Cursers is really powerful in Dominion because you're going to see the same curse at least 5 or 6 times over the course of the game and Dominion is a hugely dependent on critical mass, whether that's having $8 in your hand so you can buy a province when you're playing a Big Money style of deck or having enough synergistic actions in an action chain deck. In either case, having a curse in your hand instead of a useful card can make a huge difference. Well yeah, the numbers would have to be massively tweaked. Like shuffling in 6 cards or so as the equivalent of 1 curse, or placing the card certain number of cards from the top (in a format with no easy shuffling). Again, I can easily see why it wasn't implemented, but if the logistical hurdles were handled, I would be interested in seeing what a balanced form of this mechanic would look like.
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Are we talking about the cfb article Because this is my favorite snippet from a comment: quote:Also the word creep is just code for unattractive male. There's nothing wrong with appearing in public despite being ugly.
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Zoness posted:Are we talking about the cfb article  Jesus.
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Zoness posted:Are we talking about the cfb article  These people need to be institutionalized.
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as a gay man i think we need less men in magic bc i sit down across from a guy and blood just flows to my dick. poo poo i am trying to count storm and all i can think about is rammin his butthole. i'm flippin cards to ad nauseum and kill myself bc i just want to slurp his big ol boner. i want to jam him w/ my tendrils irl
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black potus posted:as a gay man i think we need less men in magic bc i sit down across from a guy and blood just flows to my dick. poo poo i am trying to count storm and all i can think about is rammin his butthole. i'm flippin cards to ad nauseum and kill myself bc i just want to slurp his big ol boner. i want to jam him w/ my tendrils irl do you get excited when i play my boggart ram-gang against you in draft
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Given how loving low the bar is to not being a creeplord I'm continuously disappointed that so many magic players sidle under it. My Round 2 pairing last FNM was a woman. I managed to complete a three game set without leering at her tits, asking inappropriate questions or patronizing her on game knowledge. Should I be teaching classes or do I just get a medal?
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Zoness posted:do you get excited when i play my boggart ram-gang against you in draft Secret sideboard tech against gay men: Gay porn.
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Zoness posted:do you get excited when i play my boggart ram-gang against you in draft u make my dick wither
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forbidden lesbian posted:Hmmm, 665 comments on a ChannelFireball article about getting women into gaming, bet this isn't a shitshow or anything that comment thread is one of the best grogmines i've seen, it's amazing.
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Oh god, I never noticed that but it's amazing.
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black potus posted:u make my dick wither And hastily at that!
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Starving Autist posted:Oh god, I never noticed that but it's amazing. Read the flavor text.
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i don't want girls to play magic bc when i lose the gw devotion mirror to them it's just one more place i can't last long enough
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Starving Autist posted:Oh god, I never noticed that but it's amazing. For the record, Magic is full of this sort of poo poo. Nothing quite as blunt as the art of those two cards though.
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quote:... I just don't believe that the tournament culture is the primary reason we don't see 40% or 50% women at tournaments. Maybe women are just generally not interested in playing a high-stakes, heavily analytical, difficult to master, expensive, time-consuming, ultracompetitive game? If women want to play, they will, and if they don't, they won't. quote:... And women can be guilty of things too (not that this excuses men for being guilty). I recently played at a GP with a women who intentionally wore low-cut, revealing clothes. Her playmat was a custom mat of her nude (but covering the important areas) and seducing Garruk. quote:Sounds like that is a problem with [women], Vince. Maybe those women should stop being so loving judgmental about people eh? If they don't like the community in a certain hobby, the answer isn't for them to inject themselves and change that community. The answer is maybe that community isn't for them and they should find one more to their liking. Seriously these comments are amazing. (Also the quotes are from different people) Zoness fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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Twenty dollars down on the middle one being satire.
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i, i'm an advanced man. a paragon of mental capability. magic is a game made for geniuses like me, not dumb women or jocks. that's why i can't prevent myself from gawping at a woman's breasts.
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Ramos posted:For the record, Magic is full of this sort of poo poo. Nothing quite as blunt as the art of those two cards though. Really?
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