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Shinjobi posted:I just love how he hates Archer but gets such a sword boner for his blade choice. Last episode gave us the exact reason why Shirou uses Archer's weapons and fighting style.
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Hunt11 posted:Last episode gave us the exact reason why Shirou uses Archer's weapons and fighting style. Also, if I remember right, while Archer's Swords aren't particularly amazing as weapons, they imbue the wielder with defensive skills which would make them better for a relative novice like Shirou going against a seasoned warrior then say, a really powerful weapon that he has no idea to use, in a fighting style not as well suited to him. Yeah, here it is. Looked it up on the LP.  Kinda don't get that kind of thing in the Anime, so it's not explicitly stated.
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Hunt11 posted:Last episode gave us the exact reason why Shirou uses Archer's weapons and fighting style. There's also the fact that Shirou has not seen Saber's sword at any point in the story so far, and the only way he knows what her sword looks like in Fate is that he dreams about it.
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Sylphid posted:There's also the fact that Shirou has not seen Saber's sword at any point in the story so far, and the only way he knows what her sword looks like in Fate is that he dreams about it. There's also the part where she Excaliblaps Rider.
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Hommando posted:There's also the part where she Excaliblaps Rider. That's true, but I wonder if he got a very good look at it, encased in light and all. I forget, does Shirou ever make a distinction between Caliburn and Excalibur in Fate?
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Sylphid posted:That's true, but I wonder if he got a very good look at it, encased in light and all. I forget, does Shirou ever make a distinction between Caliburn and Excalibur in Fate? Yes, Caliburn is the sword he traced to kill Berserker, it's also the sword he saw in his dream. Hommando fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 05:34
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He could trace Excalibur but then it would kill him cause of the immense amounts of mana needed to maintain and use it. This is actually stated in the visual novel later in Unlimited Blade Works.
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Shneak posted:I noticed the connections more with this episode too. Actually, it might be the opening. The twin swords in the last scene seems like good evidence. I don't know how the hell that would work though. It would imply that Shirou becomes a heroic spirit in the future and that the servants pool isn't just a collection of spirits from the past. But then how did Rin get his catalyst? nevermind Clarste fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 10:34
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why are you posting about that in this thread lol. dont hover over that poo poo first time viewers. like i realise you could figure that out on your own but you've played the visual novel so you're basically just confirming theories
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Apr 9, 2015 13:09
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Well, mostly I was confused as to how someone could reach one stage of speculation with making the logical conclusion to it, but okay, I'll edit it out if you like.
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Hunt11 posted:Last episode gave us the exact reason why Shirou uses Archer's weapons and fighting style. It did? Some of the characterization in Fate is a little subtle for me.
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Raenir Salazar posted:It did? Some of the characterization in Fate is a little subtle for me. iirc he was, like, impressed by him. Or wanted to show him up or something.
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Apr 9, 2015 14:46
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Shirou hates Archer. He just thinks his fighting style is cool and likes archers boring swords.
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Raenir Salazar posted:It did? Some of the characterization in Fate is a little subtle for me. Stated was way too strong a word. This episode might have shown it's hand too early, but the revel will come later about what is going on.
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Iretep posted:Shirou hates Archer. He just thinks his fighting style is cool and likes archers boring swords. It's this little detail that always makes me laugh. Shiro is like the 5 year old who hates the bad guy wrestler but thinks his finishing move is badass. Get's all grumpy about as he copies him. 
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Repster posted:Yeah, here it is. Looked it up on the LP. Is there even any gameplay in the VN where this is relevant, or is it just an excuse for Ulillillia-style sperging?
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the latter
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Phobophilia posted:Is there even any gameplay in the VN where this is relevant, or is it just an excuse for Ulillillia-style sperging? Well, there's one part of that which will be relevant in Heaven's Feel but other than that, it's just flavor really.
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Phobophilia posted:Is there even any gameplay in the VN where this is relevant, or is it just an excuse for Ulillillia-style sperging? Nasuverse is pretty much sperg central. It's why we have a general Type-Moon thread in the first place.
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Phobophilia posted:Is there even any gameplay in the VN where this is relevant, or is it just an excuse for Ulillillia-style sperging? It's just for fun.
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Although that doesn't stop people from being insufferable about it I guess.
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Apr 10, 2015 00:54
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well i mean its a story with a lot of fighting. it isn't any more 'irrelevant' than stuff like vegeta's super saiyan making him even stronger at the cost of speed
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Apr 10, 2015 01:08
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You need all this data in order to make informed decisions at the very meaningful and logical choicepoints.
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Apr 10, 2015 01:52
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Irony Be My Shield posted:You need all this data in order to make informed decisions at the very meaningful and logical choicepoints. The only meaningful choice is "Have I died this way yet". Fate/Stay Night is the story of all the ways a Shirou can die.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The only meaningful choice is "Have I died this way yet". But yeah all the details about the weapons and the status screens in the game is just flavor fluff. It usually ends up being kind of fun because there's a historical analogue to it, but obviously these swords are kind of different than the flavor behind a Nasuverse Gae Bolg, Excalibur, or Kaladbolg II.
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Apr 10, 2015 05:02
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Archer's swords are also based on (Chinese) legendary swords. Not as famous as Excalibur or Gae Bolg (thus reflected in their rank) but legendary nonetheless.
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Apr 10, 2015 06:41
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I just watched 5 episodes of this and thought it was pretty rad (also enjoyed fate zero). Why are people in this thread (at least from the first few pages) hate on this show again?
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Apr 10, 2015 09:46
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Beats the hell out of me. Hype backlash?
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Apr 10, 2015 10:05
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The Fate fanbase is notorious for being really lovely, sperging out about every little detail. There's a shitton of ironic hate directed its way for that. Also, some people just plain don't like it
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I just watched 5 episodes of this and thought it was pretty rad (also enjoyed fate zero). Why are people in this thread (at least from the first few pages) hate on this show again?
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I just watched 5 episodes of this and thought it was pretty rad (also enjoyed fate zero). Why are people in this thread (at least from the first few pages) hate on this show again? Because goons really love to hate on random things. But also because the general fandom surrounding this show sometimes gets weird.
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Apr 10, 2015 14:07
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Yeah that ping pong guy was just bizarre
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i mean there are plenty of legitimate reasons not to like the show, i imagine that's just how a lot of people feel about it devil tesla just expressed that in the way he was most familiar - making real bad posts
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Apr 10, 2015 16:21
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f/sn has some pacing problems and shirou can be a boring lead until you get what his deal is. the humor is pretty hit-or-miss.
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Apr 10, 2015 16:30
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Fate/stay night is okay. It has some pretty good action porn (and some actual porn in the VN) and its animated very well so that's good enough for me.
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Twiddy posted:I refuse to believe that's all of them. I always get a chuckle out of the observation someone made that whenever Shirou does something stupid on screen, there's an alternate timeline Shirou that did the smart thing and died for it.
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It's funny because it's demonstrably true.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I always get a chuckle out of the observation someone made that whenever Shirou does something stupid on screen, there's an alternate timeline Shirou that did the smart thing and died for it. To be fair, though, the inverse is also true. In UBW in particular you're given a lot of occasions to do something sucidally stupid, and actually die because of it.
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Apr 10, 2015 19:07
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You know how most long plays of old adventure games have a death montage of all the wrong decisions at the end? I really want an entire episode of them once the series is over.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I just watched 5 episodes of this and thought it was pretty rad (also enjoyed fate zero). Why are people in this thread (at least from the first few pages) hate on this show again? The basic gist is that Fate/zero is seinen and UBW is shonen, and they're similar enough in spite of that that it throws people off. Fate/zero is convoluted. It's not just an action show, it's a mind-battle show like Death Note or Kaiji with 7 people thrown in the clusterfuck instead of 2 or 3. A lot of the fun of Zero is watching the crazy plans everyone makes and seeing which ones pan out and which ones blow up in their face. UBW, on the other hand, is pretty much just a straight shonen action show, and a lot of people miss the involved mind games.
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